Lower LSE offers for international students?

I heard LSE has one of the highest, if not THE highest proportion of international students and apparently, they seem to favour them a lot giving them easier offers than brits get. eg, I know an Asian who got an ABB offer for economics (that's suspiciously low isn't it?) but then her predicted grades are ACC... I'm Asian too and I got an offer of AAB for law w/French law, which I found was fantastic but seems suspicious too since I was predicted more 5 As... There was this rumour about this Asian kid who got a DDD offer but I think that's probably just a lie... Do you think international students get unfairly lower offers from LSE than Brits do?

Reply 1

llama boy

7

Pinay

Do you think international students get unfairly lower offers from LSE than Brits do?

Yes.

Reply 2

lgs98jonee

2

they pay more...the unis want their money

Reply 3

Leeroy

lgs98jonee

they pay more...the unis want their money

simple economics - the uni obviously played to its strengths :wink:

Reply 4

WilliamFoster

1

Yes, and its abysmal. Well thats one of the good points of top up fees, it will close the gap between payments by home and internatonal students, therefore uni's in theory should allow more places for home students.
Its a bitch, a classmate of mine met a guy from Singapore or Honk Kong while he was interviewing a Cam and found out the guy had a AAB offer from LSE for econ. What a bitch, considering the prospectus specifies AAA. Then again the average A-level point scores for econ in the UK goes something like this
1.Cambridge
2.LSE
3.Nottingham
4Warwick
5.UCL

So, despite these low offers the foreign students still go on to achieve top grades.

Reply 5

lilsunflower

7

Yeh foreigners get incredibly low offers.. it is quite unfair if you believe in meritocratic society, but then they (we, as I'm from overseas too) are paying a lot more.

On another note, my friend from the EU is severely disadvantaged coz' he's a foreigner but paying home fees..

Reply 6

kildare

8

lilsunflower

On another note, my friend from the EU is severely disadvantaged coz' he's a foreigner but paying home fees..

Me too. I don't think it makes me severely disadvantaged though.

Reply 7

joka85

they're paying more so they get better as such...isn't that precisely what MPs were debating shouldn't happen to domestic students!?

Yeh, it's corrupt.

kildare

Me too. I don't think it makes me severely disadvantaged though.

Well, not severely disadvantaged.. but comparatively so.

For example, an international student with ABB may get into a uni requesting AAB while an EU student may have ABB but probably would be chosen only after home students and international students.

Reply 10

Linda

3

Those I know who have gotten offers from LSE have offers from 38-42 points. I think it is harder to get 38-42 points in IB than AAA.

Reply 11

kildare

8

lilsunflower

Well, not severely disadvantaged.. but comparatively so.

For example, an international student with ABB may get into a uni requesting AAB while an EU student may have ABB but probably would be chosen only after home students and international students.

Hmmm, I don't think so, the EU subsidise EU students in the same way that the LEA's do for British students. Why would a uni automatically choose a British student first?

Reply 12

kildare

8

Linda

Those I know who have gotten offers from LSE have offers from 38-42 points. I think it is harder to get 38-42 points in IB than AAA.

I think that's more of a problem with IB offers than with international students. See my 39 (without bonus points) offer from Warwick for an example of this :biggrin:

Reply 13

Pinay

OP

WilliamFoster

So, despite these low offers the foreign students still go on to achieve top grades.

Hmmmm, I do hope so coz if not it would be incredibly unfair (although it already is)... I guess if top up fees are put into place they should level out these sort of diffs between international students and EU/UK ones. What is worse is that LSE has such a great reputation but I wouldn't really want to go knowing that some Brit who is better qualified for the course than I am didn't get in just coz they aren't paying as much...
But if British or EU LSE students have to achieve higher offers then they would probably constitute the best in LSE, instead of intl students who got ABB to get into econ, right?

Reply 14

matouwah

1

Pinay

Hmmmm, I do hope so coz if not it would be incredibly unfair (although it already is)... I guess if top up fees are put into place they should level out these sort of diffs between international students and EU/UK ones. What is worse is that LSE has such a great reputation but I wouldn't really want to go knowing that some Brit who is better qualified for the course than I am didn't get in just coz they aren't paying as much...
But if British or EU LSE students have to achieve higher offers then they would probably constitute the best in LSE, instead of intl students who got ABB to get into econ, right?

if u look at the % of international applicants to LSE it is very high....the acceptance rate for % students is about the same for other students........ so a lot of international students get rejected as well.....

Reply 15

africa

matouwah

if u look at the % of international applicants to LSE it is very high....the acceptance rate for % students is about the same for other students........ so a lot of international students get rejected as well.....

Yes but their scores probably are not as high as similar domestics, with especially a far greater dispersion of scores.
LSE most likely know how entering scores are correlated to final results.
Be facinating to know if there is any strong correlation at all between IBs, APs, ALevels etc and final degree results!
Maybe it is is because the correlation isn't all that strong that LSE accept up to 50% overseas (incl those that do A-Levels in the UK but are ready to pay Overseas fees). What is sure is that UK domestics get squeezed out.
Continental EU domestics (those from Ireland, Germany, etc that pay domestic fees) must have even less of a chance. Hey, anyone in this case that has got an offer this year?
Clearly, in the case of LSE, how much money you pay matters. Why don't the press pick up on this?

Reply 16

matouwah

1

well i got 4A 1B at AS level in maths, chem, physics n business (b) and predicted 4A at A2 and i am also international and got rejected by LSE....

Reply 17

W.A.S Hewins

LSE's great strength, as the European leader in the social sciences, has always been that it is located in London, one of the world's liveliest and most cosmopolitan cities. Its great weakness has always been that it is located in the UK: a country which has always been suspicious of the social sciences and unwilling to fund them. Even now the biggest fund-raising donations come from abroad, as do the students who are willing to pay market rates for what the School offers.

If people are unwilling to pay for something they should not expect to get it. Students whose parents have bought their A Level results for them by paying for them to go through minor private schools at ten grand a year moan when they are asked to pay a fraction of that to attend a world famous university.

So who can blame LSE if it most rewards those who have most respect for it: foreign students who are willing to compete against other high quality foreign students to pay market rates for an extraordinary educational experience.

Reply 18

emom100

8

it amazes me how much international students have to pay to come here though. I couldn't beleive it when one of my Korean friends told me how much it would cost her to do her 4 year course, as well as the cost her family paid for her to go to an international school to do a-levels. I can't imagine how much it must cost them in London

Reply 19

W.A.S Hewins

Gnostic

Your anti-British agenda is worthy of a looney liberal. May I infer that you are one?

Now, now Gnostic, you're getting all personal and upset-there.. there.. don't let it get to you, sweet dreams...

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