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    (Original post by white_solitude)
    does anyone here agree with the Steady State Theory?
    No.
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    (Original post by lumpycustard)
    what about black holes? and if the unviverse is ever expanding, how ca it be infinate? it needs to somewhere to expand into
    the universe does not need something to expand into. it is the coordinate axes that are themselves expaning.
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    (Original post by elpaw)
    the universe does not need something to expand into. it is the coordinate axes that are themselves expaning.
    Nicely put.
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    (Original post by hitchhiker_13)
    What about black holes?

    I have a problem with infinity too, and am very interested in research into a finite universe.
    But, there isn't really a problem with saying the universe is infinite and expanding, if we take infinite to mean as big as anything can possibly be, rather than uncountable. Current cosmology says there is nothing outside our universe, so it is infinite. But we know that the universe is expanding. As it expands more space is created, the universe gets bigger, but there is still nothing outside it, and it does not need "outside" to expand into.
    so it expands into nothin. but when the universe stops, and beyond it is nothin, nothing as got to be something. and therefore the is something beyond the universe
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    (Original post by lumpycustard)
    so it expands into nothin. but when the universe stops, and beyond it is nothin, nothing as got to be something. and therefore the is something beyond the universe
    That doesn't make any sense. What are you trying to say?
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    (Original post by hitchhiker_13)
    That doesn't make any sense.
    exactly! read it again and the comment that i replied to
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    (Original post by lumpycustard)
    so it expands into nothin. but when the universe stops, and beyond it is nothin, nothing as got to be something. and therefore the is something beyond the universe
    its like asking "what was before the big bang?" - there was no time, so the concept of "before" and "after" dis not exist. what is outside the universe? there is no space, so the concept of "inside" and "outside" does not exist.
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    (Original post by elpaw)
    its like asking "what was before the big bang?" - there was no time, so the concept of "before" and "after" dis not exist. what is outside the universe? there is no space, so the concept of "inside" and "outside" does not exist.
    so if there was nothin before the big bang, what made the big bang happen?

    ps what is the state theory? or d i no it by a different name...
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    (Original post by lumpycustard)
    so if there was nothin before the big bang, what made the big bang happen?

    ps what is the state theory? or d i no it by a different name...

    No-one knows what caused it (to the best of my knowledge.)
    Think of the universe expanding as new space being created, rather than something spreading to fill an already existing space.

    The steady-state theory is one which suggests that the universe has always existed, and will always exist, exactly as it does today. It's nonsense.
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    (Original post by lumpycustard)
    so if there was nothin before the big bang, what made the big bang happen?

    ps what is the state theory? or d i no it by a different name...

    its the theory that the universe is considered to have always remained essentially the same as we view it today. In otherwords there was no beginning and will be no end
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    (Original post by white_solitude)
    its the theory that the universe is considered to have always remained essentially the same as we view it today. In otherwords there was no beginning and will be no end
    have you heard of hubble? or are you just going to ignore his findings?
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    well it must of startd somewhere

    however my origional question was earth, after it was created by the big bang, such as evolution, the cells that were made to start life int he first place etc

    and if u read back a few posts i mentioned how someone i no thoght aliens. i personally think we have some sort of god or force which helps the world along, and we (whoever or whatever race is dominent at the time) chose how the world goes (in terms of sources etc)
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    (Original post by elpaw)
    have you heard of hubble? or are you just going to ignore his findings?

    I didn't say I agreed with the theory...however the Hubble equation doesn not take into account the history of the expansion, it only considers the observed velocity of the expansion today and the measured distances to distant glaxaies
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    (Original post by white_solitude)
    its the theory that the universe is considered to have always remained essentially the same as we view it today. In otherwords there was no beginning and will be no end
    its not possiable to ave somethin without a beginning, it must ahve come from somewhere. even forever has to start and end somewhere. ok maybeit waill never end, but its gota have a start
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    God, my good mate made it.
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    (Original post by white_solitude)
    I didn't say I agreed with the theory...however the Hubble equation doesn not take into account the history of the expansion, it only considers the observed velocity of the expansion today and the measured distances to distant glaxaies
    but it still disproves the steady state theory; how can there be a steady state if the universe is (even currently) expanding?
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    (Original post by elpaw)
    but it still disproves the steady state theory; how can there be a steady state if the universe is (even currently) expanding?
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    (Original post by elpaw)
    but it still disproves the steady state theory; how can there be a steady state if the universe is (even currently) expanding?

    Well it is based on the cosmological principle which states that the universe appears the same at al points at all the time. It attempts to explain the expansion of the universe by stating that as the universe expands matter is created to fill the saces created by the expansion. Just where the matter comes from is not fully understood...

    I personally think that the universe will keep on expanding. I think its too coincidental for the mass of the universe to balance out the gravitational force of the attraction, nor do I believe in that the mass of the universe is greater and we will all die from the 'Big Crunch'
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    (Original post by white_solitude)
    Well it is based on the cosmological principle which states that the universe appears the same at al points at all the time. It attempts to explain the expansion of the universe by stating that as the universe expands matter is created to fill the saces created by the expansion. Just where the matter comes from is not fully understood...

    I personally think that the universe will keep on expanding. I think its too coincidental for the mass of the universe to balance out the gravitational force of the attraction, nor do I believe in that the mass of the universe is greater and we will all die from the 'Big Crunch'

    oh god. big crunch? what is that?
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    (Original post by lumpycustard)
    oh god. big crunch? what is that?
    the opposite of the big bang.
 
 
 
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