What are the best universities for Computer Systems Engineering that DON'T require...

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A level maths.
I dropped it after I got my AS results yesterday.

I would be very grateful if you could tell me what are the best universities for CSE that don't require A level maths.

Thanks!

Reply 1

taliman

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I got into University of Kent today through clearing. I initially asked for computer science but they put me on Computer Systems Engineering foundation year so i could learn the basic amount of maths required. When i pass the foundation year i am straight into the course. Engineering especially CSE does deal with a great deal of maths and physics.

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ManUtdFan333

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Original post by taliman

I got into University of Kent today through clearing. I initially asked for computer science but they put me on Computer Systems Engineering foundation year so i could learn the basic amount of maths required. When i pass the foundation year i am straight into the course. Engineering especially CSE does deal with a great deal of maths and physics.

Cheers mate,

Which course has more maths in it:
Comp Sci or CSE?

And also can anyone give me a summary of the CSE and CS course, e.g. what it involves, who will be suited to it etc..

As I'm still undecided whether CS or CSE is the course for me.

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roblee

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Original post by ManUtdFan333

Cheers mate,

Which course has more maths in it:
Comp Sci or CSE?

And also can anyone give me a summary of the CSE course, e.g. what it involves, who will be suited to it etc..

As I'm still undecided whether CS or CSE is the course for me.

Comp Sci has more maths in it (in particular matrix operations, summations and graph theory). For example, one of the first 'easy' questions you'd be taught to answer in CS is "given a complete quadtree with K vertices, what is the longest path between any two?"

CSE is AFAIHK more about putting large systems together while CS is about smaller, more efficient systems. That may be wrong though, don't go quoting it.

(edited 13 years ago)

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ifstatement

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Original post by roblee

Comp Sci has more maths in it (in particular matrix operations, summations and graph theory). For example, one of the first 'easy' questions you'd be taught to answer in CS is "given a complete quadtree with K vertices, what is the longest path between any two?"

CSE is AFAIHK more about putting large systems together while CS is about smaller, more efficient systems. That may be wrong though, don't go quoting it.

I've always thought Computer Systems Engineering had a tad bit more math modules compared to CS, well from what I've heard in the past anyway.

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BluesMan

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Original post by ManUtdFan333

A level maths.
I dropped it after I got my AS results yesterday.

I would be very grateful if you could tell me what are the best universities for CSE that don't require A level maths.

Thanks!

I am going to give you an honest answer here - in my experience, Uni's that offer an Engineering degree that doesn't require Maths are normally not worth going to. Maybe look into doing a foundation degree or resitting the A-level in a year.

Engineering IS the application of Maths and Physics.

Sorry.

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viperfx

Cardiff has Computer Systems Engineering course, however I think you will be required to have Maths.
Here is the course structure:
http://www.cardiff.ac.uk/engin/degreeprogrammes/undergraduate/computersystems/schemestructure/index.html

And Here is cadiff's Foundation Year course:
http://www.cardiff.ac.uk/engin/degreeprogrammes/undergraduate/foundation/index.html

Just like the title says: How to become an Engineer without Maths A Level

Good luck.

Reply 7

ManUtdFan333

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Thanks for the replies.
I'm still a bit confused about whether I should pick CS or CSE.. are they really similar or not?
If not, what is it that really makes them different?

For example, is one course more software-based or what???
(I think I need a detailed answer for someone to clear my mind)

Confused right now...need to make a decision in a few weeks, so I can write my final draft of my personal statement and pick 5 unis that I will be applying to. Need to make sure one, if any of these two courses are 100% right for me.

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taliman

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I think CSE is more hardware based too

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viperfx

I have finished my first year of CSE, so you can ask me what ever you want about the course. Ask something specific.

CSE is a mix of Electronic Engineering and Computer Science. Computer Science involves less maths and more programming. CSE involves maths modules that engineering students normally do.

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ManUtdFan333

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Original post by viperfx

I have finished my first year of CSE, so you can ask me what ever you want about the course. Ask something specific.

CSE is a mix of Electronic Engineering and Computer Science. Computer Science involves less maths and more programming. CSE involves maths modules that engineering students normally do.

What modules have you done?
What have you learnt about specifically this year?
Is it mostly lectures or do you have a lot of lab time as well? (and how many hours a week are you in lectures/seminars/lab)

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viperfx

Original post by ManUtdFan333

What modules have you done?
What have you learnt about specifically this year?
Is it mostly lectures or do you have a lot of lab time as well? (and how many hours a week are you in lectures/seminars/lab)

Here is the course structure: http://www.engin.cf.ac.uk/admis/courses/modules/modules.asp?YearId=10

I have learn python and java from the computer science side of things. We also did a module in software development, which was a python coursework. It contained a report and actual coding of the software.

Lectures, and then lab was once a week. The lecture hours was sometimes 3/4/5 hours a day, it was something like that in the second term where it was constant 9 am lectures, but any uni student who does comp sci would tell you the same.
Electronics we learn about digital and analog circuits, we had labs and a coursework.
The questions you ask are not really specific, they are pretty vague but its ok, I understand the situation you are in.

The course overall can be challenging because you are essentially doing two different degree's, half and half of Comp Sci and EE. I got to be honest and say I thought I might buckle under the pressure or fail my EE exams, but luckily everything went ok. You should not have to worry about comp sci because they go pretty easy on you the first year, but on the electronic engineering side I cant say the same. I do kinda worry I wont be able to handle the engineering in the years to come, we shall see. :smile:

Does it really matter about the hours? You just go when there is a lecture. Sure you can miss a few that you think you can get away with. All lectures have practical side of thing and that is what i like about the course. You mostly put the theory to practice either in a lab or piece of coursework.

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93_AK

Original post by ManUtdFan333

A level maths.
I dropped it after I got my AS results yesterday.

I would be very grateful if you could tell me what are the best universities for CSE that don't require A level maths.

Thanks!

i dropped AS maths too, with a B
then i got BBA in my other three subjects

i was accepted on Thursday into both Leicester(AAB) and Nottingham(BBC)

none of them asked about maths :biggrin:

i didnt even put it on my UCAS :smile:

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ManUtdFan333

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Original post by 93_AK

i dropped AS maths too, with a B
then i got BBA in my other three subjects

i was accepted on Thursday into both Leicester(AAB) and Nottingham(BBC)

none of them asked about maths :biggrin:

i didnt even put it on my UCAS :smile:

Wait, so did these two universities ask for A level maths in the first place?

Do you think it's worth making one of my 5 uni choices a university which does require A level maths and hope I get lucky?

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taliman

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Original post by viperfx

I have finished my first year of CSE, so you can ask me what ever you want about the course. Ask something specific.

CSE is a mix of Electronic Engineering and Computer Science. Computer Science involves less maths and more programming. CSE involves maths modules that engineering students normally do.

What type of job are you looking to get into when you graduate with CSE?

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Stardust Mirage

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I know Manchester uni has a Internet computing course that doesn't require maths but I'm not sure about the course content.

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93_AK

Original post by ManUtdFan333

Wait, so did these two universities ask for A level maths in the first place?

Do you think it's worth making one of my 5 uni choices a university which does require A level maths and hope I get lucky?

sorry for the late reply, i only applied for uni's that needed GCSE maths

Loughborough
Nottingham
Brunel
Leicester

Reply 17

viperfx

Original post by taliman

What type of job are you looking to get into when you graduate with CSE?

Hmm the thought does cross my mind every now and again, but its not really something I worry about.

Honestly I have no idea what type of job I want. For the time being, I am pursuing a degree which i have an interest in, and I have hobbies which interest me too which tend to take up most of my time. It mostly revolves around computers :colondollar:

So if that develops into a job then I think it will be a good thing.

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aevi123

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Hi
How are you doing with your career? Would you recommend a computer system engineering degree worth pursuing? How compatible is it with a computer science degree? Is there a struggle finding a job ? Hope to receive a reply, thank you.

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