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(Original post by ladyvice)
Also Tek, for the record, I would have a look at the statistics for degree classifications at Cambridge. Year on year, Comprehensuive school students perform best in the finals, followed by grammar school kids, followed by private school ones...this isn only true for the final year. Why? Because it takes a while for them/us to get up to scratch in some ways, but the raw potential is there, evidence would suggest....maybe something for you to think about?
What the **** are you talking about? Do you have a problem telling the difference between Tek2 and Tek or something?

On a similar note, men do better at their finals than women do...do you care? Probably not.
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aww leave tek alone!
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Public school dudes are way lazier than state schoolers, its just common knowledge. State schoolers have way more motivation to suceed its that simple.
I thought it was the public schoolers that revise 2 hours a night for exams and the state schoolers don't revise at all (like myself)?
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U'd be very much mistaken. Although I meant it in the context of Oxbridge, its not a big deal for someone from a top school to get in, so they have little motivation to do their best when they can get a reasonable grade doing things half assed. SOmeone from a state school, is probably going to be more motivated because it is their big chance etc.
this may eb true, but my DOS led me to believe that this was more to do with the discrepancy in education, and the fact that students from certain backgrounds take longer to get up to scratch, but ultimatly have more potential...and Tek I know the difference between you and Tek2, but seeing as the 'satire' was directed at you and your supposed views, I directed the response to you....
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Up to scratch? What are you talking about. Its simply because a lot of privately educated people are lazy as hell and realise in the later stages of their degrees they had better get their fingers out.
I myself am from a comprehensive school, so I really am not trying to do myself or anyone else down. I apologise if this is how it seems...i agree that people for whom Oxbridge isn't a big deal often take the experience/education for granted. However, there is no denying that many students who arrive with RELATIVELY poor educations have some catching up to do, which is understandable if you have come from classes of 30, always been the top and have not necessarily been pushed outside of the boundaries of A-Level...there is a reason that people send their kids to fee paying schools, and one of them is that many of them provide an excellent and rigorous education. By the end of 3 years, the gap has been covered and the students who originally struggled are maximising their potential...does this clarify what I meant? I can give you my DOS' email if you really are that interested ijn the research I talk of, and she would I am not doubt be happy to explain this to you further...I don't talk out of my arse on this one
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(Original post by ladyvice)
and Tek I know the difference between you and Tek2, but seeing as the 'satire' was directed at you and your supposed views, I directed the response to you....
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Yeh state school is shithouse you all learn the same stuff. Every state schooler I know has minimal general knowledge before they go to uni.
Agreed. We all pretend it is great because of the 'experience', but we are lying.
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Agreed. We all pretend it is great because of the 'experience', but we are lying.
all i can say is that i know i am smart and able, but there did seem to eb gaps in my knowledge, lack of general knowledge etc...maybe it's jusy me and maybe i'm crap, however, but i certainly did not get a good education and at times have felt as if i was struggling compared to otghers...however as research suggested it all became much easier, my confidence picked up and now i am doing very well
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(Original post by ladyvice)
all i can say is that i know i am smart and able, but there did seem to eb gaps in my knowledge, lack of general knowledge etc...maybe it's jusy me and maybe i'm crap, however, but i certainly did not get a good education and at times have felt as if i was struggling compared to otghers...however as research suggested it all became much easier, my confidence picked up and now i am doing very well
Before I discovered sites like these I had no idea of the government structure, anything economic or random facts about random people and it's because all you are taught is your plain subjects... you never get into any debates or anything because people don't want to know. I feel like you did and I know (maybe not so much now) I came accross really dense on this board because I knew nothing... about anything.

Was your state school bad?
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That's an interesting question. Would you rather be at a public or state school? I think I would genuinely prefer state school, I'm honestly not just saying this to delude myself. I recognise the advantages of a private education. But I'm glad of my ability to get on with the majority of the population, to have friends ranging from those who left highschool with UUUUUUFF, to those who are Cambridge students. And I'm glad I can be confident that I can survive on a council estate in the inner city, without getting the **** beaten out of me. As I've said a couple of times, some of the uni students here in Manchester do not have a clue.
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That's an interesting question. Would you rather be at a public or state school? I think I would genuinely prefer state school, I'm honestly not just saying this to delude myself. I recognise the advantages of a private education. But I'm glad of my ability to get on with the majority of the population, to have friends ranging from those who left highschool with UUUUUUFF, to those who are Cambridge students. And I'm glad I can be confident that I can survive on a council estate in the inner city, without getting the **** beating out of me. As I've said a couple of times, some of the uni students here in Manchester do not have a clue.
I'm not so sure really. But it does all depend on the individual state school, some are better than others.
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I'm not so sure really. But it does all depend on the individual state school, some are better than others.
And on the individual private school - some give you a better idea of reality than others.

I don't have any friends who got UUUUUUFF or whatever at GCSE, but I know people who didn't get any above a C, so it's not like I'm totally unbalanced.
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And on the individual private school - some give you a better idea of reality than others.

I don't have any friends who got UUUUUUFF or whatever at GCSE, but I know people who didn't get any above a C, so it's not like I'm totally unbalanced.
Well then you've done well, we always expect that private schools are really excellent when it comes to grades. I say it a lot, but if you come from a good school which has students that get a straight set of As then it doesn't look impressive at all when you get that set of As too.
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And on the individual private school - some give you a better idea of reality than others.

I don't have any friends who got UUUUUUFF or whatever at GCSE, but I know people who didn't get any above a C, so it's not like I'm totally unbalanced.
there are some states schools that are better than private ones...not all state schools are *****y comps (not all comps are *****y....before i get harassed for this ) and not all private schools send half the year to Oxbridge...and yes my school was really bad....11% 5 A*-C and 7.1 average A-level point score for that year (equivelent to less than 2Ds). I am not trying to congratulate myself on how great I am, but it was a **** school and I have NO DOUBT IN MY MIND that I would have been better prepared had I gobe to a GOOD private school...I got into Cambridge anyway, but so many people there seemed to know so much more. Of course there is the question of to what extent 'knowing stuff' matters, and of course many people will aklways be smarter than me in life. However, when I compare the education my boyfriend got (Westminster...and of course not every private school is as academic) and mine, it's as if we were educated in different countries.
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And on the individual private school - some give you a better idea of reality than others.

I don't have any friends who got UUUUUUFF or whatever at GCSE, but I know people who didn't get any above a C, so it's not like I'm totally unbalanced.
there are some states schools that are better than private ones...not all state schools are *****y comps (not all comps are *****y....before i get harassed for this ) and not all private schools send half the year to Oxbridge...and yes my school was really bad....11% 5 A*-C and 7.1 average A-level point score for that year (equivelent to less than 2Ds). I am not trying to congratulate myself on how great I am, but it was a **** school and I have NO DOUBT IN MY MIND that I would have been better prepared had I gobe to a GOOD private school...I got into Cambridge anyway, but so many people there seemed to know so much more. Of course there is the question of to what extent 'knowing stuff' matters, and of course many people will aklways be smarter than me in life. However, when I compare the education my boyfriend got (Westminster...and of course not every private school is as academic) and mine, it's as if we were educated in different countries. I just felt unprepared in the wider sense; so many private schools have debating societies, speakers, numerous trips, learning around subjects as opposed to'getting youm through' the exams....these things are so important and these are the ways in which I think that private schools get it so right...Of course this is not true for all schools, but I really do think we have to accept that most proivate schools are better than most state ones IN TERMS OF getting the grades accross the board, motivating students and preparing them for lateral thinking.
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there are some states schools that are better than private ones...not all state schools are *****y comps (not all comps are *****y....before i get harassed for this ) and not all private schools send half the year to Oxbridge...and yes my school was really bad....11% 5 A*-C and 7.1 average A-level point score for that year (equivelent to less than 2Ds). I am not trying to congratulate myself on how great I am, but it was a **** school and I have NO DOUBT IN MY MIND that I would have been better prepared had I gobe to a GOOD private school...I got into Cambridge anyway, but so many people there seemed to know so much more. Of course there is the question of to what extent 'knowing stuff' matters, and of course many people will aklways be smarter than me in life. However, when I compare the education my boyfriend got (Westminster...and of course not every private school is as academic) and mine, it's as if we were educated in different countries.
So would you have preferred to have gone to your school or westminister?
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there are some states schools that are better than private ones...not all state schools are *****y comps (not all comps are *****y....before i get harassed for this ) and not all private schools send half the year to Oxbridge...and yes my school was really bad....11% 5 A*-C and 7.1 average A-level point score for that year (equivelent to less than 2Ds). I am not trying to congratulate myself on how great I am, but it was a **** school and I have NO DOUBT IN MY MIND that I would have been better prepared had I gobe to a GOOD private school...I got into Cambridge anyway, but so many people there seemed to know so much more. Of course there is the question of to what extent 'knowing stuff' matters, and of course many people will aklways be smarter than me in life. However, when I compare the education my boyfriend got (Westminster...and of course not every private school is as academic) and mine, it's as if we were educated in different countries.
Can I ask why you still stayed there? Because 11% does seem quite bad, is it still open?
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sorry guys...when the server was being funny i got confused...i am a luddite and apologise for sending this twice...btw, the second one is the complete one....
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Im dam confused. What are your veiws tek? If we really are to believe that you are a misunderstood snob, please clarify.

You dont seem to be able to be nice, or make up your mind about things. If you want people to understand your veiws, stop calling everyone idiots and express yourself clearly without swear words. Everyone else seems to be able to, even when confronted with your rude aggresive opinions.

Whoever said private schoolers were all well brought up individuals, and state schoolers were all a load of rude poor people?
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So would you have preferred to have gone to your school or westminister?
i stayed because my dad is a socialist workers member, because my freinds were there, because i don't believe in all bright kids being creamed off into other schools....it is still open, and last year achieved 19%...to be honest, i really don't know whether i would have preferred westminster. I like to think not, but who knows? Not that I could have gone there till I was 16 anyway!
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