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Why do people get offended at White Nationalism but not Cultural Marxism?

Arent they 2 sides to the same coin?


One group believes in racial singularity and the other believes we must all mix.
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Original post by Studentrepreneur
Arent they 2 sides to the same coin?


One group believes in racial singularity and the other believes we must all mix.


We must? I seriously doubt that Cultural Marxists advocate that.
Original post by Studentrepreneur
Arent they 2 sides to the same coin?



I don't get offended by either really, both beliefs are equally absurd and ridiculous.
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What an idiot.

I am a Marxist, and indeed, we need a cultural change; that of working ourselves away from believing it is right to profit at the expense of others. But the idea that ‘we must all mix’ is ridiculous and just shows your lack of knowledge.

The OP is a perfect example of somebody commenting on Marxism but knows nothing about it.

Marxism, and furthermore, Communism, is about liberating the working class and putting society into the hands of ordinary people.
Because patriotism < "multiculturalism" ...

Spoiler

Erm, because believing that being white and British is somehow a point of superiority is much more worthy of offence than believing that we are all equal, don't you think?
Evidently, some people get offended by cultural marxism (white nationalists) and some get offended by white nationalism (cultural marxists). If you're asking why no single person gets offended by both (though there is probably somebody somewhere) then that's just a stupid question, isn't it?

And just to jump on the bandwagon, it is indeed pretty obvious that you don't really know what those terms mean.
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Original post by Studentrepreneur
Arent they 2 sides to the same coin?


One group believes in racial singularity and the other believes we must all mix.

Because that's not what defines Cultural Marxists. Cultural Marxism is a method of analysis of culture through the prism of critical theory, the conclusions people reach with this method can be far ranging. It is even, theoretically, possible for someone to reach White Nationalism by applying critical theory + their own biases to society.
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Because Cultural Marxism have been put into effect, and people are no hostile to things otherwise.

White Nationalism is basically the history of Europe up until the 1960's. Suddenly its bad.
Original post by Struggle

Marxism, and furthermore, Communism, is about liberating the working class and putting society into the hands of ordinary people.


what a curious idea.
Original post by Puritan
We must? I seriously doubt that Cultural Marxists advocate that.

You do? Tell me more about that...
Original post by the bear
what a curious idea.

I think you'll find that in practice that means taking away from one community and giving it to the imagined community of the working class. We believe that there should be no class warfare, we are one people. After the First World War it was evident that workers of the world would not unite as the vacuous theoretical abstraction that is Marxism predicts. Instead they united in patriotic struggle, hence came along another Marxist theoretician, Gramsci, who said that the goals of Marxism would never be attained if they did not carry out the 'long march through the institutions', that is take over the cultural and political establishment and wage a war of emotional blackmail and deceit on indigenous Europeans, (the people who created everything we see - no we're not Africans TSR :rofl:). This they have done with enormous success since 1965, It doesn't do to be so ignorant of history that you don't know where the basis of your world view comes from, does it Bear? Liberals wish to remove homogenously white societies (generally by deconstructing the idea of the national community and claiming things are 'outdated' or 'racist' or 'don't exist) because the people are the constant who should survive various political ideas, the people, the ways of life, the land, always hithertoo survive, so the liberals steal our living space and encourage race mixing to get rid of us. Is that so unbelievable to you people, you are espousing them with presumably the same pretexts so you should understand their intent. Don't be fooled, you have no right to give your children's birth right away to anyone.
Original post by PridenotHate
I think you'll find that in practice that means taking away from one community and giving it to the imagined community of the working class. We believe that there should be no class warfare, we are one people. After the First World War it was evident that workers of the world would not unite as the vacuous theoretical abstraction that is Marxism predicts. Instead they united in patriotic struggle, hence came along another Marxist theoretician, Gramsci, who said that the goals of Marxism would never be attained if they did not carry out the 'long march through the institutions', that is take over the cultural and political establishment and wage a war of emotional blackmail and deceit on indigenous Europeans, (the people who created everything we see - no we're not Africans TSR :rofl:). This they have done with enormous success since 1965, It doesn't do to be so ignorant of history that you don't know where the basis of your world view comes from, does it Bear? Liberals wish to remove homogenously white societies (generally by deconstructing the idea of the national community and claiming things are 'outdated' or 'racist' or 'don't exist) because the people are the constant who should survive various political ideas, the people, the ways of life, the land, always hithertoo survive, so the liberals steal our living space and encourage race mixing to get rid of us. Is that so unbelievable to you people, you are espousing them with presumably the same pretexts so you should understand their intent. Don't be fooled, you have no right to give your children's birth right away to anyone.


the working class want fags, ****s and telly. it is the middle class who bear the burden of civilisation.
Original post by the bear
the working class want fags, ****s and telly. it is the middle class who bear the burden of civilisation.


It is this kind of chauvinism which causes division among our people. What does class mean? Simply social disadvantage. The vices you talk about are all they know because they have been abandoned by te blind forces of international capitalism. White Nationalists share a profound love for and faith in their people which no amount of material trash can ruin. You are regurgitating the same old dry prejudice. We don't judge people by how many degrees they have. There is a word for chauvinistic conservatives: cuckolds! And there is a word for who is ****ing their wives: Tyrone.
Original post by PridenotHate
It is this kind of chauvinism which causes division among our people. What does class mean? Simply social disadvantage. The vices you talk about are all they know because they have been abandoned by te blind forces of international capitalism. White Nationalists share a profound love for and faith in their people which no amount of material trash can ruin. You are regurgitating the same old dry prejudice. We don't judge people by how many degrees they have. There is a word for chauvinistic conservatives: cuckolds! And there is a word for who is ****ing their wives: Tyrone.


ooh you virile serf

let me lock up my womenfolk

:h:
'Cultural Marxism' isn't a real thing. Just a term invented by far-right nutjobs that doesn't have anything to do with Marx....
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Original post by Bulbasaur
'Cultural Marxism' isn't a real thing. Just a term invented by far-right nutjobs that doesn't have anything to do with Marx....


"There is a spectre haunting the minds of tin-foil hatted reactionaries, the spectre of cultural Marxism" :lol:

Original post by PridenotHate
What does class mean? Simply social disadvantage.

Class can have several meanings depending on the context, in the Marxian sense (and in the socialist understanding more generally), class is based upon one's relationship to the means of production and to private (as opposed to personal) property. That's not to say that cultural notions of class don't have an impact but it is not this understanding of class which is used to come to the conclusion that capitalism is an economic system based upon exploitation.

Original post by PridenotHate

The vices you talk about are all they know because they have been abandoned by te blind forces of international capitalism.


And when have the far-right ever produced a critique of capitalism beyond some vague anti-semitic remarks about finance capital?

Original post by PridenotHate
White Nationalists share a profound love for and faith in their people

And, as history has shown, hatred for almost everyone else.

Original post by PridenotHate
There is a word for chauvinistic conservatives: cuckolds! And there is a word for who is ****ing their wives: Tyrone.


Well this conjecture isn't based on misogyny or unfounded racist stereotyping at all.... :rolleyes:
White supremacy is evil to the core, left wing cultural/social activism is based on noble principles.

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