Father arrested for murder over knifing suspected burglar

Silly idiots need to learn what an assumption is, bless . You can tell a lot of the people don't actually read English very well. Given i only asked one simple question :P

Tommyjw, you are wrong - as per usual.

who's assumptions were right and who's were wrong?

Oh really? So if i go to bbc news and find recent similar type events i wont find information such as this? I think you'll find i will

But yet again, you actually ignore the idea of Occams razor. But well done, third time now, . So please.. tell me, why do you continue to ignore it?
Do you need me to explain the concept any more to you? Its rather simple. but given you have outright ignored it given it goes against your view, i think it's more likely than not that you would just rather ignore it

Let me say it again. when going against competing assumptions, in this case, the logical approach is the approach which leads to the least amount of new assumptions. that is, given the information in the article, that the logical assumption is to assume things that were not included, were not relevant. It is literally as simple as that.

So i will ask the question in this way. Do you disagree with the concept that is occams razor, an established principle?

and yet again you resort to the childish things . Bless, literally like talking to a nursery child. It does not matter who is correct now, because at the beginning both sets were from the same article. You really hate to lose an argument dont ya?. Yes, your set of assumptions were right. but would i be shouting around if mine were? No. Because they were original assumptions used to create a discussion. It is literally irrelevant to this discussion what future articles stated. The mere fact you keep on relying on this point, whilst ignoring any point made about occams razor shows a great deal about how much of a failure you seem to be



Nope, putting words in my mouth.
I said there is no need to question it, as that is not the point of this thread. That yours was not the most logical assumptions given reasons stated and never said there could only be one. But thanks for lying (:

How you are trying to apply it does not work in this situation. See you arr accusing me of assuming more than you, when infact I was taking into account more than you to make my assumption, and was working from a far more logical basis.

When 'initital reports' come out, they are sparse on detail, always, therefore it is illogical to assume that any detail not in that report did not happen

Upon comparing reports of similar incidents you see that the result is as I assumed it to be in this case. Therefor you shouting 'Occams Razor!' is meaningless, I have assumed nothing extra, rather worked from a logical standpoint to my assumption using more than a single first gasp article. It's this little thing known as wider context and so forth.

And you always accuse me of missing things and glossing over them, which I deny. So here, come now, don't be a hypocrite. Don't ignore this. Who assumed correctly? You, or I?

You assumed more than i did. I was not given information, so did not use it. You assumed this information, that we were not given, still applied. It's not that hard to understand.

Nope. Wrong. It is more illogical to assume things not stated were involved. As shown by occams razor.

Now please, post something intelligent rather than dismissing everything against you, it is getting boring now.

Actually, you were not given information (non violence, no weapons etc.) but you did use it. Sound stupid? It was.

No, it's not.

Haha, you have been doing this since the start of the thread and you started it, why don't you take your own medicine and admit you were wrong. Maybe start with how you were completely wrong with hindsight and then move on to how your initial assumptions were worthless subsequently..