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Panic Attacks

The other day, I was threatened for my stuff by a gang of lads. I got really scared, and managed to escape with all my stuff. But since then, I have been scared to leave the house alone, or unless I'm going to school and back but even that isn't safe anymore.

But can someone explain what a panic attack is? If I'm alone in my room, like I am now and I don't have something taking my mind of the attempted mugging then I start to have problems breathing and I shake and just basically freeze and get really.. really scared.

You might think this is sad considering it's nothing major, but this is the third time I've been in this situation and as I get over it, the same thing happens again. I have told my mum that my stuff nearly got stolen, but I haven't told her about the panic attacks.

I'm 15 and am considering going to the doctors for some advice, but would I need parental permission or would it all be confidential? Also, do the symptoms above have anything to do with a panic attack or is it something else? This also happens in public, if I see a gang of lads in hoods and on bikes I just freeze and shake and think the worst, people then ask me why my hands are shaking like mad, and I don't know what to say without feeling ashamed and embarassed.

But I just want this to stop, but it won't with the scum I have to put up with around my area.

Any advice will be much appreciated.
Reply 1
Anonymous
But can someone explain what a panic attack is?

A panic attack is basically your survival instincts kicking in "Fight or Flight"
so when your going out, your also worrying about what happened happening again, therefore your body will give out all these symptoms as a warning signal to the rest of your body, that accompanied with the anxiety you will be feeling.

Anonymous
I'm 15 and am considering going to the doctors for some advice, but would I need parental permission or would it all be confidential? Also, do the symptoms above have anything to do with a panic attack or is it something else?

If your going to ask for counselling (Which your doctor will most likely suggest, then yes it will be confidential)
And yes the symptoms will have something to do with the panic attack heres a website with a list of the symptoms for you if your still unsure.

http://www.panic-anxiety.com/panic_attack_symptoms/panic-attack-symptoms.htm

Counselling and gaining your confidence back will help with these panic attacks, you just got to remember the panic attacks can't harm you.

Also feel free to PM me anytime if you need to ask anything else or just talk :smile:
Reply 2
Seems you display some of the signs of panic attacks, different people experience different things though. Im afraid to say I have no idea how to stop panic attacks I just know one of the best ways to feel better during one and after one is to constantly remind yourself that it cant hurt you (most of the panic attacks i encounter make me feel like im dying which is why I have to remind myself of this). I think working through the causes of these attacks would be the best way to deal with them, deal with the root of the problem. Going to the doctor sounds like a good idea, I currently go to a counsellor and find it really helps though it can be stressful. But ive never had to tell anyone about it and she wont tell anyone about it unless I want her to.

I hope everything works out ok.

x
i have panic attacks, and i always carry a paper bag around with me, breathing into a paper bag helps calm me down and regulate my breathing again. if youve no paper bag, breathing into cupped hands works too. also, the good old favourite chocolate works a treat (obviously not whilst youre breathing in a paper bag!) always makes me feel better, think its a bit of a sugar rush
hope this helps x
Reply 4
Rightio, first off this problem is NOT sad. If it's a big deal to you, it's a big deal, and that's the end of it.

I'm sorry to hear you had a bad experience. I myself have had agoraphobia since I was about 12/13 (you'd think I could spell it by now :rolleyes: ), so I know how horrible panic attacks are.

I generally don't have panic attacks any more (treatment involving mixture of Prozac (Fluoxetine), cognitive behaviour therapy, psychiatrists, hypnotherapy..sounds like a lot but not when spread over several years!), but when I have them I get these symptoms: needing to go to the toilet, beating heart, sweating, clammy feeling, feeling hot & cold at the same time etc.

Many many many people have panic attacks in their life; they might have one or two and never again have them, so it's not too much to be worried about, but if you ARE worried I recommend going to see your GP.

If you ever need to chat, PM me. Hope you're okay!

EDIT: Just re-read your post. If you go to your GP it can be completely confidential. I do recommend telling your mum though; my mum and dad were absolutely incredible.
Reply 5
I have had these often for really random reasons that shouldn't induce any sort of panic in normal people. Mine tend to be at night when I'm drifting off to sleep and when I'm just on the brink of falling asleep, I go all cold and shaky, my breath gets constricted and it feels like I'm drowning. I think it's best to try to keep your mind free of nasty things as much as possible. My attacks worsen when I'm worried/stressed.

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I also think past experiences can make them worse. ie. I'm quite certain the drowning feeling is left over from when I was in Y3 and virtually drowned in a swimming pool.
Reply 6
darling, anxiety is a problem that so many people suffer with, just not many people are honest about and it can get more severe in some cases

your GP can't tell your parents (unless they believe you're a risk to yourself or others). however i'm not sure what the rules are about using links within the mental health service so when you're with your GP ask. but i do know something. telling your parents will probably make it easier for you because they will be there for you and it could be that there are other people in the family suffering from similar problems (it can be genetic). you could ask your GP to give you leaflets to show them if they dont understand it. it's NOTHING to be ashamed of, so don't ever think it is

as MNBstyle said, it's your body kicking into "fight or flight". the symptoms are caused by rushes of adrenaline (which would help us fight/run in dangerous situations). However sometimes it's more difficult to cope with the rushes, and that can be when hyperventilation can kick in

I'm gonna list what i learnt at CBT. people might disagree with this, but it worked for me, k?

-everytime you run away, your brain learns that to get out of a situation, it just needs to give you an adrenaline rush. try (when you can) to expose yourself to situations that make you nervous. personally i had a severe phobia of fire and made myself sit in rooms with candles, sit near candles, sit on a table with candles, light a match, light a candle (sounds long but my case was severe as i was convinced that no where was safe, etc, and it developed into many different fears>>chances are you're nothing like me!!!)

-remember (i think someone might have mentioned this before...) that hyperventilating is the WORST thing that could happen. you cannot die from panic attacks or hyperventilation, even if it does feel like it.

-perhaps try rating your anxiety on a scale from one to ten (my psycologist always made me keep a diary with numbers and argh. but now i find it easiest to rate situations by numbers, than trying to describe to the people around me). when you know the numbers are starting to get higher, try to think of rational ways to calm yourself down. in your room you know nothing's bad is going to happen to you (to be honest i don't know how effective this is for everyone else, but i know a number of people who do it so it's obviously a used technique)

-more numbers!! if you think you are going to hyperventilate, or are hyperventilating, it's good to concentrate on your breathing. this is the sort of hypnotising thing i learnt...

in: 10 10 10 10 10
out: 10 10 10 10 10
in: 9 9 9 9 9
out: 9 9 9 9 9
in: 8 8 8 8 8
out: 8 8 8 8 8....... down to one. just count these slowly in your head
and as carrot said, a paper bag can do wonders! but if you can't get ahold of one easily, cup your hands and breathe into it. it's rather wonderful

-finally remember you're not alone!

if it starts to interfere with your life you should definitly consider talking to someone about it. even talking can make things better. and remember i'm not medically trained or anything so i might actually be talking rubbish
Reply 7
also, cause there's obviously a number of people here suffering from panic attacks, i'm wondering what you think of my situation on saturday night

so i was at frog at mean fiddler and felt a panic attack coming on when i was at the bar, so i asked for some water. when i started getting more uptight i ended up being taken to the medical room (someone said i needed to see the first aider and i wasn't in any state to argue). the first aider refused to give me water, and reluctantly gave me a paper bag. he then told me i needed fresh air, and got the security guard to put me out the side door. the door was shut on me and i was in a pitch black alley alone (obviously not good for the situation...) so i was hyperventilating, and cant remember if i collapsed... i tend to blank out panic attacks... the bouncer refused to let me back in (in case i had another and fell down the stairs?!) and told me to have my "amateur dramatics elsewhere". i couldn't get ahold of my friends and had to walk to charing while still up at like an 8 or a 9 at about one or two in the morning. the "first aider" was the one who'd had me kicked out and put me into danger. GAH

so what are people's opinions on such imcompetence?
Reply 8
Obviously the stressfull situation made you alot worse and its worrying to think this is the way some people are treated.
You should report such poor medical attention like that.
I dont want to worry you but also anything could of happened to you when you was just put in some dark alley way like that, with your friends not knowing your last whereabouts
Reply 9
Generally, doctors advise consultation after 3 or more panic attacks - even the idea of panic attacks can cause panic attacks - I had one once and was the worst moment of my life - I felt suffocated, my heart was beating so fast my hand was buzzing, and for the previous three days I had to consciously breathe (like a dolphin!) instead of forgetting it, and I honestly felt I was going to die - I had no idea what was happening, but when I came to terms with it, I realised panic attacks could not harm me, and I haven't had a strong one since. I recommend you do go to a doctor, and when you discover the roots (which are unlikely to be that deep at 15 years old) you can recover from this state.
Reply 10
lazza
darling, anxiety is a problem that so many people suffer with, just not many people are honest about and it can get more severe in some cases

your GP can't tell your parents (unless they believe you're a risk to yourself or others). however i'm not sure what the rules are about using links within the mental health service so when you're with your GP ask. but i do know something. telling your parents will probably make it easier for you because they will be there for you and it could be that there are other people in the family suffering from similar problems (it can be genetic). you could ask your GP to give you leaflets to show them if they dont understand it. it's NOTHING to be ashamed of, so don't ever think it is

as MNBstyle said, it's your body kicking into "fight or flight". the symptoms are caused by rushes of adrenaline (which would help us fight/run in dangerous situations). However sometimes it's more difficult to cope with the rushes, and that can be when hyperventilation can kick in

I'm gonna list what i learnt at CBT. people might disagree with this, but it worked for me, k?

-everytime you run away, your brain learns that to get out of a situation, it just needs to give you an adrenaline rush. try (when you can) to expose yourself to situations that make you nervous. personally i had a severe phobia of fire and made myself sit in rooms with candles, sit near candles, sit on a table with candles, light a match, light a candle (sounds long but my case was severe as i was convinced that no where was safe, etc, and it developed into many different fears>>chances are you're nothing like me!!!)

-remember (i think someone might have mentioned this before...) that hyperventilating is the WORST thing that could happen. you cannot die from panic attacks or hyperventilation, even if it does feel like it.

-perhaps try rating your anxiety on a scale from one to ten (my psycologist always made me keep a diary with numbers and argh. but now i find it easiest to rate situations by numbers, than trying to describe to the people around me). when you know the numbers are starting to get higher, try to think of rational ways to calm yourself down. in your room you know nothing's bad is going to happen to you (to be honest i don't know how effective this is for everyone else, but i know a number of people who do it so it's obviously a used technique)

-more numbers!! if you think you are going to hyperventilate, or are hyperventilating, it's good to concentrate on your breathing. this is the sort of hypnotising thing i learnt...

in: 10 10 10 10 10
out: 10 10 10 10 10
in: 9 9 9 9 9
out: 9 9 9 9 9
in: 8 8 8 8 8
out: 8 8 8 8 8....... down to one. just count these slowly in your head
and as carrot said, a paper bag can do wonders! but if you can't get ahold of one easily, cup your hands and breathe into it. it's rather wonderful

-finally remember you're not alone!

if it starts to interfere with your life you should definitly consider talking to someone about it. even talking can make things better. and remember i'm not medically trained or anything so i might actually be talking rubbish


Ive read all of this on the net, tried it and my anxiety is still here, so is there any point in going for CBT? Thinking positive things actually makes me more anxious :confused: I just get this feeling of fed up and think 'im sick of this'.
Reply 11
there's a difference between reading it and having someone teach you to do it. i refuse to believe that reading it on the net has the same effectiveness of therapy for someone with any severe mental health problem (severe in the sense of it being strong for that problem, not a "severe mental health problem" like bi-polar)

CBT is the most non-medicinal method of treating anxiety

i just wish i hadn't take mine for granted so much (long story-i hated the guy i was seeing because he ignored anything BUT anxiety, i had to fill out stupid questionairres every week to do with being scared of russia- it was made in the 70s-80s, so i forced myself to get better)

the one thing is it's very difficult to get.

and it doesn't make it magically go away. for many of us it can stick around. it's just about learning to control it. i still get panic attacks, but they've gone down from several a DAY, to one every few months


Obviously the stressfull situation made you alot worse and its worrying to think this is the way some people are treated.
You should report such poor medical attention like that.
I dont want to worry you but also anything could of happened to you when you was just put in some dark alley way like that, with your friends not knowing your last whereabouts


yeah im writing a letter to mean fiddler. this guy wasn't like a trained member of bar staff, he had a bloody first aider uniform on!!! thing is im not sure if i collapsed from hyperventilating in the alley, so it's lucky such nice people found me