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Reply 1
well if you prefer that single women reply, whats the point of a poll...you know the answer =P
Reply 2
Mangaroo
well if you prefer that single women reply, whats the point of a poll...you know the answer =P


Changed my original post. Just curious if all single women think this is the case
Reply 3
Nah.
Reply 4
absolutely not. with my luck i have every right to be jaded about men but i still firmly believe the vast majority are very good people. just cause someone is straight and single doesnt make him a tosser.
Reply 5
Nope, I don't think ALL men are losers... I thought that would be obvious to you.
99.999999% are losers.
I find completely the opposite is true! I'm single and I'm finding so many gorgeous single blokes around that I don't know which to go for! :biggrin:
Reply 8
I agree that they're all attached, gay or losers OR lovely but your best mates/you would never like them as more than a friend :frown:
Girls, you're just looking in all the wrong places!

Either that or my uni really does attract all the good'uns. :wink:
Hmmmm, I sense a potential generalisation; the statement implies that all single, heterosexual men are losers. I think a lot of single, heterosexual men would disagree with this. This is just one of the (very many) stupid, irrational, cliched things that women say, and, in this case, it is so obviously said as an excuse for their own singleness (i.e. "I don't want a man, any way; all the available ones are either gay, or losers"). Yeah, any man who can't get a woman is obviously a loser; women are just that damned good at snapping up every single non-loser (even the non-losers who finish in their relationships aren't in between relationships for a nanosecond, obviously). The terms 'stuck-up', 'illogical' and 'deluded' don't even begin to describe it. The phrase is merely one of many that puts men down, as a means of excusing women from blame and inflating their image.

I suppose it could be argued, with a certain rational, that there are an overly-proportionate amount of losers in the 'single' category (i.e. women perhaps being less likely to go for 'losers'), but then, it depends on how you define the term; there are an overwhelming number of arseholes who have phenomenal success with women, any way, so it makes you wonder.

And, Christ: this obsession women have with gay men; the statement suggests that gay men are really significantly less likely to be losers. I'm as non-homophobic as they come, but, hell, take off the rose-tinted spectacles, please. And obviously, it hasn't occured to whoever said this that perhaps some men might choose to be single (i.e. they're seen as ideal boyfriends, even, but are pledging celibacy, for whatever reason). Obviously not: men need women that damned much, after all.

susiemakemeblue
I find completely the opposite is true! I'm single and I'm finding so many gorgeous single blokes around that I don't know which to go for!


So, being 'gorgeous' and a loser are mutually exclusive things? And looks serve as a measure of a man's worth?

*~Emma~*
I agree that they're all attached, gay or losers OR lovely but your best mates/you would never like them as more than a friend


Very insightful, and a common attitude: finding a guy lovely, but insisting they remain 'just friends' (as if warm friendships shouldn't progress to something more....). A self-destructive attitude, overall (speaking more generally, but using the above as an example); a consequence of which sometimes being referred to as 'The curse of the nice guys'.

And, yeah: I realise that the statement in question is probably not to be taken literally, but still, I believe there's sufficently a low amount of truth in it, as for it to be labelled 'utter bullsh*t', and for those who utter it to be labelled 'utter morons'. I think that, going by this 'logic', you might as well state that 'All women are either gay, attached or losers.'
dyslexic_banana
So, being 'gorgeous' and a loser are mutually exclusive things? And looks serve as a measure of a man's worth?


Not at all...

I fancy people based on a combination of looks and personality. They have to be attractive AND intelligent AND a nice person (but only I have to find them attractive). I'm extremely fussy. So if I can find so many guys to my liking, so can anyone. :p:
Reply 12
dyslexic_banana
Hmmmm, I sense a potential generalisation; the statement implies that all single, heterosexual men are losers. I think a lot of single, heterosexual men would disagree with this. This is just one of the (very many) stupid, irrational, cliched things that women say, and, in this case, it is so obviously said as an excuse for their own singleness (i.e. "I don't want a man, any way; all the available ones are either gay, or losers"). Yeah, any man who can't get a woman is obviously a loser; women are just that damned good at snapping up every single non-loser (even the non-losers who finish in their relationships aren't in between relationships for a nanosecond, obviously). The terms 'stuck-up', 'illogical' and 'deluded' don't even begin to describe it. The phrase is merely one of many that puts men down, as a means of excusing women from blame and inflating their image.

I suppose it could be argued, with a certain rational, that there are an overly-proportionate amount of losers in the 'single' category (i.e. women perhaps being less likely to go for 'losers'), but then, it depends on how you define the term; there are an overwhelming number of arseholes who have phenomenal success with women, any way, so it makes you wonder.

And, Christ: this obsession women have with gay men; the statement suggests that gay men are really significantly less likely to be losers. I'm as non-homophobic as they come, but, hell, take off the rose-tinted spectacles, please. And obviously, it hasn't occured to whoever said this that perhaps some men might choose to be single (i.e. they're seen as ideal boyfriends, even, but are pledging celibacy, for whatever reason). Obviously not: men need women that damned much, after all.



So, being 'gorgeous' and a loser are mutually exclusive things? And looks serve as a measure of a man's worth?



Very insightful, and a common attitude: finding a guy lovely, but insisting they remain 'just friends' (as if warm friendships shouldn't progress to something more....). A self-destructive attitude, overall (speaking more generally, but using the above as an example); a consequence of which sometimes being referred to as 'The curse of the nice guys'.

And, yeah: I realise that the statement in question is probably not to be taken literally, but still, I believe there's sufficently a low amount of truth in it, as for it to be labelled 'utter bullsh*t', and for those who utter it to be labelled 'utter morons'. I think that, going by this 'logic', you might as well state that 'All women are either gay, attached or losers.'


Dude...chill...

Well, the girl was a Canadian.... :rolleyes:
Reply 13
dyslexic_banana
This is just one of the (very many) stupid, irrational, cliched things that women say

erm, actually the opposite opinion is winning! we must not all be tarred with the same brush!


but you make some very good points and i agree on the whole. its just that i cant stand the idea that people think all women are this neurotic and irrational. just as i cant stand the ides that people think all single guys shouldnt be touched with a long stick. i cant stand whinging women who constantly bad mouth men cause they are bitter, ok maybe you had a bad experience, maybe you are single, whatever, but dont take it out on the good guys. i think it says more about the girls poor judgement of character if every single guy she ever meets is a loser and she genuinely believes that statement.
Reply 14
To be fair I think to an extent it was a joke. We were in the company of about 10 guys, and I think she was winding them up. However, I was just curious about this.
Reply 15
Are male people not allowed an opinion in this poll?

[EDIT] Sorry, just read it again, it's not very clear tho.
Reply 16
Poica
To be fair I think to an extent it was a joke. We were in the company of about 10 guys, and I think she was winding them up. However, I was just curious about this.


yea ive seen her type before, they try and brush it off as a joke but deep down, they believe it and are a bit crazy!
Reply 17
princessa
yea ive seen her type before, they try and brush it off as a joke but deep down, they believe it and are a bit crazy!


If she's been hurt, especially by one of the guys in the group, then she has every right to think that!
Reply 18
princessa
yea ive seen her type before, they try and brush it off as a joke but deep down, they believe it and are a bit crazy!

Quite possibly. She just finished the kind of relationship everyone laughs at her for afterwards...
Reply 19
Most seem to be. :rolleyes: