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I’ve got a dilemma! :confused:
i know i posted something similar before, but i didnt get any useful answers really, so...
Basically, I want to be a costume designer either on theatre or on film. But as for university, I was thinking of whether to do a stable degree such as history or archaeology as I would love to do it (entry 2012). I would do this first to use as a fall back if all fails. And if I complete that degree after 3 years, I’ll do the course in costume design part-time while I do my job based on the degree that I got. I would love to do archaeology, and that is the degree im considering, and then go on to design after this.
Is this a bad idea? or are there many doing similar to this?
Any answers would be highly useful.
I’m just so confused. I’ve put in archaeology as my choices on my UCAS. And I feel like it’s too late to do anything at all, or make any changes.
Many thanks!!
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(Original post by Lumos_Nox)
I’ve got a dilemma! :confused:
i know i posted something similar before, but i didnt get any useful answers really, so...
Basically, I want to be a costume designer either on theatre or on film. But as for university, I was thinking of whether to do a stable degree such as history or archaeology as I would love to do it (entry 2012). I would do this first to use as a fall back if all fails. And if I complete that degree after 3 years, I’ll do the course in costume design part-time while I do my job based on the degree that I got. I would love to do archaeology, and that is the degree im considering, and then go on to design after this.
Is this a bad idea? or are there many doing similar to this?
Any answers would be highly useful.
I’m just so confused. I’ve put in archaeology as my choices on my UCAS. And I feel like it’s too late to do anything at all, or make any changes.
Many thanks!!
Have you sent your UCAS? If you have then things are a bit late, but at worst you can can go through extra and change courses etc. but it will also mean you'll have to wait (I think that's ~Feb?) so plenty of time to ponder it over.

That's an alright plan, but 3 years work experience/qualifications related to design would probably put you in better stead. I'm not sure what the best courses would be for you based on that though. I don't know the likelihood of you needing a 'fall back' in that sector, but I imagine it's probably a good idea to have one so don't worry, it should hopefully work out as you have it in your mind.

People do a degree and then end up deciding they want to go into a completely different field anyway, so it won't be unusual for you to try and hop into something else. Alternatively, you might find by the end that you're happy to stay in the field you've graduated into.
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Do archaeology. It's awesome where are you applying?
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Do costume design at a drama school. Seriously. I would argue (as someone working in theatre) that the skills you will develop and the practice you will get, not to mention the industry contacts (there's usually a placement with somewhere like the Royal Opera House or the National Theatre up for grabs) you will make will become invaluable.
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Do archaeology. It's awesome where are you applying?
i was thinking of applying to; Sheffield, Nottingham, Manchester, Chester & UCLan. (:


But i'm just so stuck! :/
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i was thinking of applying to; Sheffield, Nottingham, Manchester, Chester & UCLan. (:


But i'm just so stuck! :/
Hey, I'm applying for Law at Sheffield, Northumbria, Hull, UCLan and Chester, but I want to substitute either UCLan or Chester for another Law course at Sheffield. Chester doesn't seem that appealing to me. What are your predicted grades? Have you visited UCLan or Chester? x
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It's not a bad idea. However you could also do my degree Creative Events: Design and Production (Event Experience Design) at the University of Kent. The degree covers a range of modules, from costume and stage design, to lighting and sound to branding to creating creative events.
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Wouldn't it make more logical sense to do a design degree (maybe not costume as you've said) but as a base and get experience in costume other ways, rather than doing an unrelated degree.
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I’ve got a dilemma! :confused:
i know i posted something similar before, but i didnt get any useful answers really, so...
Basically, I want to be a costume designer either on theatre or on film. But as for university, I was thinking of whether to do a stable degree such as history or archaeology as I would love to do it (entry 2012). I would do this first to use as a fall back if all fails. And if I complete that degree after 3 years, I’ll do the course in costume design part-time while I do my job based on the degree that I got. I would love to do archaeology, and that is the degree im considering, and then go on to design after this.
Is this a bad idea? or are there many doing similar to this?
Any answers would be highly useful.
I’m just so confused. I’ve put in archaeology as my choices on my UCAS. And I feel like it’s too late to do anything at all, or make any changes.
Many thanks!!
Oh for goodness sake.

Look - most people in the 'arts' who are successful are relatively intelligent and most of them have a bit of a chip on their shoulder (including myself) and the first thing you will come up against when you apply for jobs etc. is the question 'if you've wanted to do this since you were so young then why did you do an archaeology degree'? If you respond that you wanted to do a 'more stable degree' then they will not be too happy. I used to help out on the drama open days at my uni and it was truly heart breaking to see the amount of potential applicants who were asking the woman who ultimately can yay or nay their application whether it would be a better idea to do joint so they've at least got 'half a proper subject'...it's very insulting to people who work in the creative arts. Besides History and Archaeology are not, by any stretch of the imagination 'stable degrees' - sure if you want to sell your soul for a graduate job in recruitment take a history degree, but just so you know most grad jobs you could get with a history degree would be extraordinarily dull and soul destroying so unless you want that - which it would seem you don't as you want to be a costume designer then why on earth would you spend so much money on a wasted degree subject when you could spend three years learning for a career you want? Costume design is HARD, you need to be flexible and able to research, design, cut and sew impeccably - as someone said above me in this thread, generally the top costume design courses at drama schools have unbelievable placements with the national theatre, opera house, film production companies. You need to learn to work with other creatives, and you most certainly won't learn that on a history degree.

I know quite a few costume designers who work professionally - most of them did do a fashion design course (central st martins seems to be where most of the ones I know from high paid jobs went), and others did a costume or technical theatre degree. The only ones who are self taught/work experienced their way up - never went to uni at all and if they did have the chance to go to uni they probably would have done fashion, costume, design or art.

Sorry if this post sounds a bit harsh but don't underestimate a) the competitiveness of the industry b) the level of skill involved and c) the value of an education within the arts sector, by arts practitioners with links to jobs in the industry you want to work in.

I'm guessing you're from a fairly middle class upbringing where people have told you you MUST DO A PROPER SUBJECT - well, these people are wrong. Art is a proper subject, the creative industry is the fastest growing part of our economy and if you work hard and are talented you will be successful. Art is meritocratic, if you are actually good you will eventually be able to make a career out of it. If you want this so much, take the risk (not that it's a risk at all really - in fact it's much more risky to do a history degree) and get your arse onto an art foundation/fashion foundation course pronto.

...also RE: UCAS apps - most drama schools operate a system independent of UCAS so you can apply privately, although I'd recommend you doing an art foundation course first to build up a suitable portfolio - these are taught at both FE courses and Universities, and again you can apply independently for a lot of them.
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Costume design is HARD, you need to be flexible and able to research, design, cut and sew impeccably - as someone said above me in this thread, generally the top costume design courses at drama schools have unbelievable placements with the national theatre, opera house, film production companies. You need to learn to work with other creatives, and you most certainly won't learn that on a history degree.

I've done Textiles & Product design at GCSE and I'm currently doing Textiles A-level, so I do know from experience that it is hard. I help in my local theatre with costumes, and again, I do know it is hard work, but so rewarding. I do know it is a proper subject, my aunt has done an art degree and she is very successful.

I've made my choice now, I've decided to do archaeology first as I find it interesting and I'm also passionate about history, has been ever since I was young. You can do so many unlimited jobs with history, it doesn't have to limited to history. After I've done my degree, I'm going to go to uni and study costume design part time.

Thanks for your input, much appreciated
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I see no point in doing an irrelevent degree that may sound more academic, you're throwing away 3 years of time and money where you could be building your career and skills in costume.

Central School of Speech and Drama has 2 courses relating to costume: Costume Construction and Design for Stage.

I have 2 flatmates on the Costume Construction course, so can answer any questions relating to Central as best as I can. They are both in their 2nd year and are already getting termtime placements which they have the freedom to choose (one of them is more interested in period/opera so is searching for placements relevant to that). Likewise, in your 3rd year at Central you can choose to spend the entire year on placements or within the school. They boast a lot of prestigious graduate destinations in construction and design for theatre, film and TV.

Design for Stage is slightly different as you basically design set and other elements as well as costume, but if your background is in textiles I imagine you'd be more interested in Costume Construction. You build far more practical sewing skills on construction than design.

As far as Central goes as a school, us theatre practitioners are always collaborating with each other and with the acting students - when I was applying for Stage Management I was put off by unis where the technical students and acting students barely worked together. It's in an amazing location at Swiss Cottage in zone 2 of North West London so is really close to everything Central London has to offer (especially Oxford Street and Brent Cross ). Class sizes are small, so there's plenty of staff contact and they take plenty of people straight from A levels/BTECs/etc., myself and one of my costume flatmates included.

Do feel free to ask me any questions regarding Central, the application/interview process, Costume Construction, drama school, etc.
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Quick question - do you know how many people are on the costume construction course there? as some of the other similar courses are v. small!
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The current 2nd year has 10 on costume construction, but they are from a range of backgrounds with some having more previous training whilst others came straight from A levels or BTECs. Feel free to ask any more
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What is the interview like, I have an interview in January for the Costume Construction course and what are they looking for with portfolio cause I don't have very much stuff.
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Interview, to me anyway, seemed very relaxed. You spend the first part of the day creating a group installation, which is them just seeing how you get on with other people/getting people to socialise. As far as portfolios go, what it really means is they want to see your interest in costume, theatre, arts, etc. So of course any pictures, sketches, etc. regarding your costume making experience should go in there, but even stuff like programmes from shows you've seen and anything you feel represents you - if it's theatre or costume related then that's a bonus. Good luck!
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Ahh thank you I have been panicking these last few days my college hasn't sorted out anything in our portfolio classes and I currently have zilch and then the interview comes and I'm practically a mess Hah
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No problem, good luck!
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I don't understand why you have applied for that degree?
I would like to be a costume designer... i have applied for COSTUME design courses...
eg. costume design and making - Nottingham trent University.
Costume design - London college of fashion

A costume design course would definitely be the best option..
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Hi there, do Central Schol ask for a portfolio with your Ucas, or only if you are given an interview?
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