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Applying for MBA in Oxbridge and LBS with a low 2.2?

Hey,

I completed my Graduation in BSc. Hons. Mathematics and Economics from Warwick University in 2009. I got a low 2.2 :-(! :angry:

I got 53.2%

Anyways, I am planning to do an MBA next year, I want to do study in Oxbridge or LBS.

I also have work experience of 2.5 years in family business (manufacturing).

I have been a top student in school got 85% in O level equivalent and 92% in A level equivalent (I don't what the hell happened in University, why I scored such low marks.).

I am a county level squash player as well, if they consider sports.


Do they (Oxbridge and LBS) accept candidates with low marks in graduation.

Do I stand a chance or it is just useless to even think about these 3 B-Schools?

I know I have to score really high in GMAT I guess more than 720. But, even after that Graduation marks would remain low.
Reply 1
What have you achieved, what role did you play in your time in the family business?
Reply 2
Original post by c2uk
What have you achieved, what role did you play in your time in the family business?


Its a small organisation, so I am involved with pretty much everything. My dad is the director, so I assist him in strategic decisions such as new plant and machinery.

We have a steel forging business, so my dad and I started a new manufacturing process i.e. casting to capture more market and meet a huge (MNC) buyers requirement.

Plus, we diversified our business and started manufacturing biomass fuels to capture the energy market, which basically means we have started manufacturing a eco friendly fuel, which is made out of agricultural waste.

We also installed machinery which reduces our cost of production by 20%.
Reply 3
There's too much "We", you need to show that you've developed business awareness and leadership skills, successfully applied the knowledge you learned in your degree and can show that your low grade isn't a true reflection of your academic and professional skills - for example did you develop/explore/initiate any new business contacts? Or even on a bigger scope: Did you develop a marketing plan/strategy and implemented it?
Reply 4
Original post by c2uk
There's too much "We", you need to show that you've developed business awareness and leadership skills, successfully applied the knowledge you learned in your degree and can show that your low grade isn't a true reflection of your academic and professional skills - for example did you develop/explore/initiate any new business contacts? Or even on a bigger scope: Did you develop a marketing plan/strategy and implemented it?


Hey, Thanks a lot for answering my query.
That can done and I haven't included many things, I included the major ones. So, you reckon I can still apply and not look like a total jackass as I have a low 2.1?
Reply 5
Original post by joy12
Hey, Thanks a lot for answering my query.
That can done and I haven't included many things, I included the major ones. So, you reckon I can still apply and not look like a total jackass as I have a low 2.1?


I would give it a shot, you might only have a low chance to get into and your time spent on the application may very well be wasted, but if you desire to get into those, why not. Find a way that makes your activities and achievements after you graduated as strong as possible and maybe wait a year or two more to further push you.
Reply 6
Original post by c2uk
I would give it a shot, you might only have a low chance to get into and your time spent on the application may very well be wasted, but if you desire to get into those, why not. Find a way that makes your activities and achievements after you graduated as strong as possible and maybe wait a year or two more to further push you.


Thanks a lot again, well, I was looking other B-Schools as well, in Singapore (SMU), China (CEIBS), Hong Kong.

Can you recommend me a few B-Schools in UK which would overlook my graduation score for a good GMAT score and good work experience?

For example, other ones which might interest me would be

Imperial
Warwick (I have done my UG from here, would they prefer me?)
York

Where else might they overlook a 2.2, amongst top schools.
Original post by joy12
Thanks a lot again, well, I was looking other B-Schools as well, in Singapore (SMU), China (CEIBS), Hong Kong.

Can you recommend me a few B-Schools in UK which would overlook my graduation score for a good GMAT score and good work experience?

For example, other ones which might interest me would be

Imperial
Warwick (I have done my UG from here, would they prefer me?)
York

Where else might they overlook a 2.2, amongst top schools.


Looking at your record thus far, I would say your chances for the Cambridge MBA will be next to zero. LBS would almost certainly be zero.

Oxford non-exec MBA you may have a very slight chance but it probably would be closer to zero.

While they say you only need 3 years of work experience most of them would be having closer towards the 5-10 years of experience range and most would be very well known managers in their field. I was looking at the Oxford MBA, even at a 3.89CGPA and at that time 10 years work experience I was placed on a waiting list.

I would suggest you try for the following :-
Nottingham.
Sheffield.
Leeds.
Leicester.
Manchester is you are over 27 years old.

The other programs the 2.2 especially being a low 2.2 will pretty much put you in the reject tray.
Reply 8
Original post by Erich Hartmann
Looking at your record thus far, I would say your chances for the Cambridge MBA will be next to zero. LBS would almost certainly be zero.

Oxford non-exec MBA you may have a very slight chance but it probably would be closer to zero.

While they say you only need 3 years of work experience most of them would be having closer towards the 5-10 years of experience range and most would be very well known managers in their field. I was looking at the Oxford MBA, even at a 3.89CGPA and at that time 10 years work experience I was placed on a waiting list.

I would suggest you try for the following :-
Nottingham.
Sheffield.
Leeds.
Leicester.
Manchester is you are over 27 years old.

The other programs the 2.2 especially being a low 2.2 will pretty much put you in the reject tray.


Thanks for your honest reply,

Do you think Warwick would accept my application?
Or if I were to apply to ivy league in the US would they even consider my application?
Original post by joy12
Thanks for your honest reply,

Do you think Warwick would accept my application?
Or if I were to apply to ivy league in the US would they even consider my application?


Warwick? My guess is around 50:50.

Ivy Leagues? No chance at all...... don't even bother wasting your time and their time.
Reply 10
Original post by Erich Hartmann
Warwick? My guess is around 50:50.

Ivy Leagues? No chance at all...... don't even bother wasting your time and their time.


Hey, Thanks again.

If I were to get a Masters degree in India and I score 70 % and above in the MSc. would that help me in anyways? Will they overlook my UG scores?
Original post by joy12
Hey, Thanks again.

If I were to get a Masters degree in India and I score 70 % and above in the MSc. would that help me in anyways? Will they overlook my UG scores?


Ask them...but doubt it unless it was from a really prestigious university.
Reply 12
Original post by Erich Hartmann
Ask them...but doubt it unless it was from a really prestigious university.


You have been a great help, thanks a lot!
Reply 13
Look man, a crummy MBA does not show anything. If u want it bad enough, then go out and get it. I did that myself and I'm living proof it can happen.
Reply 14
ur best shot is to get a v v v good GMAT score. they would accept u to pull up the other applicants with good degrees + good job experience but low GMAT score.
Reply 15
what's their minimum requirement in the first place? is it 2.1 or 2.2?
Reply 16
I will not comment, in contrast to others, on your ability to get admitted to LBS or Oxbridge as the information you provided isn't adequate. However, I would suggest to think adding 2 MBA schools to your application package. The strategy I often read is "2/3 top schools, 2 safety and 1 absolute sure". In your case LBS, Cambridge and Oxford would be the top ones. What do you have to lose? Maybe 100 pounds per school application fee? So be it.

Personally, I would think whether you might want to apply to specialized universities in family enterprise. INSEAD has a specialized center (http://www.insead.edu/facultyresearch/areas/entrepreneurship/) as do many others. Why not check out ESADE, IE or IESE. They offer 'preliminary CV reviews', that might give you an interesting initial consideration. Beside that, double-check how they convert GPA and British grades. I was in contact with one school that literally converted 90% = A etc. A 50% would mean a 2.0GPA / 4.0. Admission committees would provide insight.

Depending on your time and budget, I would personally choose 2 MBA programmes that allow to focus on family business and are highly ranked (you never know); this would first of all distinguish you from all the investment banking / consulting types with First class honors. Second, think about 2/3 alternatives. The GPA range of Ivy Leagues are not similar to your grading. Maybe only Cornell's Johnson might. However, if you have the time and financial ability, why not submit your application to Yale, Columbia, Harvard, Chicago and NYU? And lastly, to avoid any disappointment, add 1 absolute safety school. Grade wise, you might want to think of Bradford, University College Dublin, Birmingham etc.

On a second thought, have you considered Babson College's MBA? It's 100% focused on entrepreneurship.

Good luck. Let the +1's roll. ----->
Reply 17
Original post by joy12
Hey,

I completed my Graduation in BSc. Hons. Mathematics and Economics from Warwick University in 2009. I got a low 2.2 :-(! :angry:

I got 53.2%

Anyways, I am planning to do an MBA next year, I want to do study in Oxbridge or LBS.

I also have work experience of 2.5 years in family business (manufacturing).

I have been a top student in school got 85% in O level equivalent and 92% in A level equivalent (I don't what the hell happened in University, why I scored such low marks.).

I am a county level squash player as well, if they consider sports.


Do they (Oxbridge and LBS) accept candidates with low marks in graduation.

Do I stand a chance or it is just useless to even think about these 3 B-Schools?

I know I have to score really high in GMAT I guess more than 720. But, even after that Graduation marks would remain low.

So how did it turn out? We're you able to get in the unis you wanted?

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