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    Dont get me started on that Priest. When I get Bishop he'll be moved to the hospitals
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    im afraid of confession. i dont know what type of things to confess. and also as it is my first ever one, do i need to confess all of my life or just the recent ones? and also how do you face the priest if you had done something really bad and thn told him, how arent you embarrassed to speak to him at mass the next week?

    my worst sin that i continue to do is rune casting. i know runes are divination and divination is mortal sin, but in the bible it is against eg using clouds to tell the future, so watching the 6 ok clock news and weather forecast is wrong. i can see necromancy is wrong. also the apostles chose the 12th disciple by casting lots, and there were prophets like Daniel. and Joseph interpreted his dream about the assumption of Mary.

    thats the big current one. sure i have done bad things in the past, but do i really have to confess all of them in order to start anew?
    i dont think i have done any other mortal sins.
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    (Original post by shinytoy)
    im afraid of confession. i dont know what type of things to confess. and also as it is my first ever one, do i need to confess all of my life or just the recent ones? and also how do you face the priest if you had done something really bad and thn told him, how arent you embarrassed to speak to him at mass the next week?

    my worst sin that i continue to do is rune casting. i know runes are divination and divination is mortal sin, but in the bible it is against eg using clouds to tell the future, so watching the 6 ok clock news and weather forecast is wrong. i can see necromancy is wrong. also the apostles chose the 12th disciple by casting lots, and there were prophets like Daniel. and Joseph interpreted his dream about the assumption of Mary.

    thats the big current one. sure i have done bad things in the past, but do i really have to confess all of them in order to start anew?
    i dont think i have done any other mortal sins.
    When Im in that situation I just say that I have far too much to be sorry for, and I cant name them all, ask for forgiveness, and mean it.
    STOP casting runes!
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    (Original post by shinytoy)
    im afraid of confession. i dont know what type of things to confess. and also as it is my first ever one, do i need to confess all of my life or just the recent ones? and also how do you face the priest if you had done something really bad and thn told him, how arent you embarrassed to speak to him at mass the next week?

    my worst sin that i continue to do is rune casting. i know runes are divination and divination is mortal sin, but in the bible it is against eg using clouds to tell the future, so watching the 6 ok clock news and weather forecast is wrong. i can see necromancy is wrong. also the apostles chose the 12th disciple by casting lots, and there were prophets like Daniel. and Joseph interpreted his dream about the assumption of Mary.

    thats the big current one. sure i have done bad things in the past, but do i really have to confess all of them in order to start anew?
    i dont think i have done any other mortal sins.
    Hehe, I would think so long as you don't believe in the results being 'the truth' it's fine. Everyone reads their horoscope/plays with tarot cards etc...it doesn't make you a witch lol. The important bit being in that you don't believe in the results/see them as determining your life.
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    (Original post by minimo)
    Hehe, I would think so long as you don't believe in the results being 'the truth' it's fine. Everyone reads their horoscope/plays with tarot cards etc...it doesn't make you a witch lol.
    I would like to remove myself from the group of "everyone"
    Kthnx
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    You never read your horoscope in the newspaper?? I never said agree with it, I said READ it...I don't understand what's sinful about reading something, so long as you don't believe in it. I suppose I'm a liberal Catholic.
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    (Original post by minimo)
    You never read your horoscope in the newspaper?? I never said agree with it, I said READ it...I don't understand what's sinful about reading something, so long as you don't believe in it. I suppose I'm a liberal Catholic.
    I would consider it a waste of time reading horoscopes if I didn't have some belief that they might contain an insight into my future for the day.,

    I think that is the warning that we are given by our faith - the occult can become addictive and lead us away from our trust in Jesus.

    shinytoy - remember that your PP has listened to so many confessions over his life as a priest that he is not going to remember who did what - much in the same way as a doctor giving one an intimate examination does not make that patient feel embarassed to consult that doctor again.

    Also, for a sin to be 'mortal', three conditions must together be met. Mortal sin is sin that is of grave matter (a grave violation of God's law which turns one away from God) and is committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent. To me that entails breaking one of the Commandments wilfully, knowing that what I am doing is separating me from God and the act is one of very serious wrongdoing. I would consider that casting runes does to a certain extent fulfill the conditions for committing mortal sin since what you are doing is placing your faith in something other than God (I suppose it could come under the Ist Commandment i.e. thou shalt not worship any other gods before me) The degree to which you are using rune stones to determine your future is the crux. Discuss it with your confessor during confession. Really, you have nothing to fear from confessing your sins - priests are very understanding and only too eager to advise you and help you to refrain from committing that sin again.
    When you examine your conscience ask the Holy Spirit to guide you.
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    (Original post by yawn)
    I would consider it a waste of time reading horoscopes if I didn't have some belief that they might contain an insight into my future for the day.,
    I think that is the warning that we are given by our faith - the occult can become addictive and lead us away from our trust in Jesus.

    shinytoy - remember that your PP has listened to so many confessions over his life as a priest that he is not going to remember who did what - much in the same way as a doctor giving one an intimate examination does not make that patient feel embarassed to consult that doctor again.

    Also, for a sin to be 'mortal', three conditions must together be met. Mortal sin is sin that is of grave matter (a grave violation of God's law which turns one away from God) and is committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent. To me that entails breaking one of the Commandments wilfully, knowing that what I am doing is separating me from God and the act is one of very serious wrongdoing. I would consider that casting runes does to a certain extent fulfill the conditions for committing mortal sin since what you are doing is placing your faith in something other than God (I suppose it could come under the Ist Commandment i.e. thou shalt not worship any other gods before me) The degree to which you are using rune stones to determine your future is the crux. Discuss it with your confessor during confession. Really, you have nothing to fear from confessing your sins - priests are very understanding and only too eager to advise you and help you to refrain from committing that sin again.
    When you examine your conscience ask the Holy Spirit to guide you.
    Well personally I rank my reading of newspaper horoscopes at the same level as reading Peanuts or Garfield at breakfast. Pure entertainment and procrastination. :hmmm:

    But anyhow, good luck shinytoy!! :hugs:
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    (Original post by minimo)
    Well personally I rank my reading of newspaper horoscopes at the same level as reading Peanuts or Garfield at breakfast. Pure entertainment and procrastination. :hmmm:
    I can't see that if you read it purely for entertainment value it presents a problem

    I think our Church only worries when it leads a person away from God and instead of placing trust in Him, places trust in the occult.
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    (Original post by shinytoy)
    CofE cannot take communiion in RC church, due to the belief in TRANSUBSTANTIATION not present in the CofE faith
    Is that the other way round if you're in an Anglican church then... as I thought it was, and so didn't take communion when I went to my boyfriend's church.
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    The current law of the Catholic Church states that ordinarily Catholics can receive the Sacraments only from Catholic minsters.

    The Code of Canon Law (Canon 844) - but see Canon 844,2. The fact that exceptions exists is a sign of hope for greater intercommunion.

    http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_P2T.HTM

    Pope John Paul II's Encyclical "That All May Be One" paras #22-23 expresses the hope that all Christian Churches may one day be reunited, but Anglican orders are not accepted by the Catholic Church to be valid since they don't retain Apostolic succession as do the Eastern Churches.

    http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/jo...m-sint_en.html
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    This thread is so long that I skipped most of it so apologies if this has been asked. I just want a general gauge of whether you consider yourself a liberal or conservatvie Catholic.

    A Liberal Catholic is one that wants to women as priests, marriage allowed in the priesthood, accepts abortion etc.

    Obviously, the Conservative Catholic would be against the aforementioned. I consider myself a little mix of the two in that I am against abortion unless the mother's life is in danger and I'd like to see marriage in the priesthood. I'm not sure about women priests yet though.
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    The Catholic Church is ok with abortion if the mothers life is endangered. The doctrine of the lesser of two evils I believe its known as.
    Im a Charismatic Catholic.
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    (Original post by jjpmusgrave)
    A Liberal Catholic is one that wants to women as priests, marriage allowed in the priesthood, accepts abortion etc.

    Obviously, the Conservative Catholic would be against the aforementioned. I consider myself a little mix of the two in that I am against abortion unless the mother's life is in danger and I'd like to see marriage in the priesthood. I'm not sure about women priests yet though.
    I dont think its enough to just group your beliefs into just Liberal or Conservative its to restrictive, I dont feeling lik elisting all of my beliefs about how the Catholic Church should alter here and additionally many of the topics require a deeper reasoning that just yes or no good of bad idea. On the whole I would be a Liberal Catholic but only in a loose sense of the term.
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    I'd say moderate/liberal on issues such as marriage in the priesthood etc, moderately conservative on social issues. I don't really think you can 'box' yourself into a category, tho' - far too complex.
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    I believe that it's called the doctrine of double effect.
    Pope John Paul II : A nation that kills its own children is a nation without future.
    I'm 100% against abortion: murder.
    Conservative estimate that c.50 million lives have been terminated throughout the world as a direct result of abortion. It is not so much a nation without future as a world with little future if trends persist.
    However, I cannot condemn someone who has had an abortion, rather we should offer comfort, etc. Since as the simple phrase goes; two wrongs do not make a right.
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    (Original post by minimo)
    I've been thinking...how many Catholics would think it's appropriate to get into a relationship with a non-Catholic albeit practicing Christian guy? Coz I had to listen to someone rant against this a few days ago and I'm not sure where I stand.
    I'm currently going out with a practicing Anglican and we've not really had any problems so far! The only thing I think that is a wee bit silly about his denomination is that the Queen is the head of their church.... but I suppose given we've got the Pope we can't talk can we?:p:
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    (Original post by socialist cook)
    I'm currently going out with a practicing Anglican and we've not really had any problems so far! The only thing I think that is a wee bit silly about his denomination is that the Queen is the head of their church.... but I suppose given we've got the Pope we can't talk can we?:p:
    But the Pope is descended from St Peter.
    The Queens just a kraut
    Hang on, never mind :p:
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    surely it's St. Peter?
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    (Original post by minimo)
    surely it's St. Peter?
    Apostolic succession does come from St. Peter if that is what deej2 is referring to.

    Another point on head of a faith group.

    It seems somewhat incongruous to me that a person who is not actually a 'minister' of that faith can be it's earthly representative - and why the monarch is head instead of the Archbishop of Canterbury, I don't understand. :confused:
 
 
 
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