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Its not likely, but when all the details of the Anglican ordinate come through, they may allow for married priests (which is what they did with the Eastern Churches). I assume you would be eligible, as, if my memory serves me right, you are converting from Anglicanism (technically)
They won't change the ruling on marriage for Catholic men who enter the priesthood De Lubac. Pope John Paul II made an exception to many Anglican priests from both the USA and Britain who wanted to 'cross the Tiber' in the 90's whilst having already married beforehand.

The exception applies to those in the same circumstances who have coverted to Catholicism under the terms of the Ordinariate.

There is a ruling that if any of the married priests who have converted are widowed, they may not marry again.
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Well Tolkein was a cradle Catholic and was intelligent enough to see the truth of Catholicism. C. S. Lewis converted after reading some of G. K. Chesterton's works and his talks with Tolkein.
C. S. Lewis had some Catholic-sounding ideas but I don't think it exactly counts as Catholicism considering that he joined the Church of England and never actually joined the Catholic church.

Good luck with all the priest stuff though I guess, just wondered what y'all talk about on here.
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C. S. Lewis had some Catholic-sounding ideas but I don't think it exactly counts as Catholicism considering that he joined the Church of England and never actually joined the Catholic church.

Good luck with all the priest stuff though I guess, just wondered what y'all talk about on here.
I meant Christianity in general rather than Catholicism. He never joined the RC Church so he could marry a divorsee.

And thanks. I'm only considring it though.
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Oh undoubtably, and I was very pleased when the Holy Father released Summorum Pontificum. I just like the idea of belonging to an order like the Institute of Christ the King and living in a community. I have seen some of the changes of the new missal and do rather like them
I'm not familiar with this order. Are they secular priests or do they not work out in the community?

I've been attending weekly instructions at our Parish and the evenings spent have been extremely interesting amid much laughter with our PP. The last session is next Wednesday and I'm not going to be able to go as I travel to Ireland on that day and am not back for 3 weeks. 'Twill be interesting to see if the local parish in Ireland have started the instruction especially since it is in an Irish speaking area where Mass is said in the Irish language. Maybe they won't, maybe it will only be those parishes outside of Gaeltacht areas. Umm...I should have asked my PP what happens in that situation. 'Was the Irish translated from the Latin, or from the English translation of the Latin?'
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C. S. Lewis had some Catholic-sounding ideas but I don't think it exactly counts as Catholicism considering that he joined the Church of England and never actually joined the Catholic church.

Good luck with all the priest stuff though I guess, just wondered what y'all talk about on here.
Wow..I didn't know you were Catholic, my friend! :eek:
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Wow..I didn't know you were Catholic, my friend! :eek:
I'm not, I was just a ***** to you guys a couple of months ago and I realised that you guys are just people too, doing your best with what you believe in. Sorry, friends.
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I'm not familiar with this order. Are they secular priests or do they not work out in the community?
I think they work in the community. They're not too well known in this country but they've just set up their first mission in this country

I've been attending weekly instructions at our Parish and the evenings spent have been extremely interesting amid much laughter with our PP. The last session is next Wednesday and I'm not going to be able to go as I travel to Ireland on that day and am not back for 3 weeks. 'Twill be interesting to see if the local parish in Ireland have started the instruction especially since it is in an Irish speaking area where Mass is said in the Irish language. Maybe they won't, maybe it will only be those parishes outside of Gaeltacht areas. Umm...I should have asked my PP what happens in that situation. 'Was the Irish translated from the Latin, or from the English translation of the Latin?'
Our parish is doing an event in the local city where they're going to discuss how to teach the parish the new system. Oh wow! Have fun in Ireland.
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I'm not, I was just a ***** to you guys a couple of months ago and I realised that you guys are just people too, doing your best with what you believe in. Sorry, friends.
That Ok. Bye...
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That Ok. Bye...
Bye... *continues to lurk you for the lulz :ninja::mmm:*
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I think they work in the community. They're not too well known in this country but they've just set up their first mission in this country
I wondered why I hadn't heard of them...and I don't read the Catholic Herald (I'm a Universe reader) so I hadn't seen this. Thanks for the link...it will be interesting to see how they develop as an order. I can think only of one order - and that was a long time ago - that sent priest into parish churches...the Passionists. Most orders of priests tend to be vocational in the sense of specialising in, eg Education, such as the De La Salles etc.

Our parish is doing an event in the local city where they're going to discuss how to teach the parish the new system.
Our PP is a real trend-setter and since he's the area Dean he's also got the other parishes in the Deanery to get their act together and start the instruction in their churches. As he said, Advent is getting closer and the summer months are not a good time to run such classes as most people take their holidays then. He wants us all to be adequately prepared in plenty of time.

Oh wow! Have fun in Ireland.
Thanks a lot. I just love going to Ireland. It's so nice to be in a Catholic country when you have so much in common with each other. I stayed at a hotel there a couple of years ago and felt quite comfortable going to the Reception and asking them not only where the local church was but also what time Confessions were...and they knew the answers without having to look it up!

I am going to ask my PP on Sunday what happens in areas of a generally English speaking country where they don't speak English as their first language whether they need to use the new Roman Missal in Irish. That'll give him something to think about!
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I wondered why I hadn't heard of them...and I don't read the Catholic Herald (I'm a Universe reader) so I hadn't seen this. Thanks for the link...it will be interesting to see how they develop as an order. I can think only of one order - and that was a long time ago - that sent priest into parish churches...the Passionists. Most orders of priests tend to be vocational in the sense of specialising in, eg Education, such as the De La Salles etc.
Just to clarify is a society (such as the Jesuits) different to an order then? Still new to this really And in that case what are the Dominicans because they have parish priests don't they?

And I would have thought the universe was a bit right wing for you! Seeing as Viscount Monckton is a former editor :teehee: In all honesty I don't really know where they stand. The Herald always appears quite traditional whilst the Tablet seems heretical 'liberal'.

Our PP is a real trend-setter and since he's the area Dean he's also got the other parishes in the Deanery to get their act together and start the instruction in their churches. As he said, Advent is getting closer and the summer months are not a good time to run such classes as most people take their holidays then. He wants us all to be adequately prepared in plenty of time.
It must be lovely living in a parish like that My parish priest is a lovely chap (with a wicked sense of humour) but it's a very sleepy parish in many ways.


Thanks a lot. I just love going to Ireland. It's so nice to be in a Catholic country when you have so much in common with each other. I stayed at a hotel there a couple of years ago and felt quite comfortable going to the Reception and asking them not only where the local church was but also what time Confessions were...and they knew the answers without having to look it up!

I am going to ask my PP on Sunday what happens in areas of a generally English speaking country where they don't speak English as their first language whether they need to use the new Roman Missal in Irish. That'll give him something to think about!
The hotel sounds fantastic :gah: I know i'd sure love to go to Ireland. Although from what I'd been reading I got the impression that Catholicism was falling apart at an alarming rate over there.

That certainly is Something to think about I'd heard though that the Irish Bishops weren't too keen on the new mass translation and were trying to block it
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Just to clarify is a society (such as the Jesuits) different to an order then? Still new to this really And in that case what are the Dominicans because they have parish priests don't they?
It's not as straight forward as either you or I seem to have presumed. I found this article which might help clarify for both of us. I chose this one because it refers to the Dominicans specifically.

http://www.spiritualitytoday.org/spi...243rausch.html

And I would have thought the universe was a bit right wing for you! Seeing as Viscount Monckton is a former editor :teehee: In all honesty I don't really know where they stand. The Herald always appears quite traditional whilst the Tablet seems :heretical: 'liberal'.
I guess it's a tradition in my family...my mum (when she was alive) and my dad always got a copy every Sunday at Mass and now I have moved away from the family home I do the same thing. I read The Times as well, even though I am not right of centre but I can let the politics 'go over my head' and not be persuaded by that with which I disagree.


It must be lovely living in a parish like that My parish priest is a lovely chap (with a wicked sense of humour) but it's a very sleepy parish in many ways.
Our PP is a very special person. He is very caring, very funny and very humble...a perfect recipe for a PP...and he is a convert from Anglicanism as well, despite being disowned by his father for doing so.

The hotel sounds fantastic :gah: I know i'd sure love to go to Ireland. Although from what I'd been reading I got the impression that Catholicism was falling apart at an alarming rate over there.
The people might not attend Mass in the numbers they used to...they tend to worship shopping centres on Sundays instead, but they remain essentially Catholic in their dealings with others.

That certainly is Something to think about I'd heard though that the Irish Bishops weren't too keen on the new mass translation and were trying to block it
If they are, they'll come round in time...the Irish like to buck against authority...it's part of the Irish psyche that goes back to the times of the Plantation.
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This literally made me giggle for quite a while:
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(Original post by yawn)
It's not as straight forward as either you or I seem to have presumed. I found this article which might help clarify for both of us. I chose this one because it refers to the Dominicans specifically.

http://www.spiritualitytoday.org/spi...243rausch.html
OOh, thanks for that. I'll sure take a read

I guess it's a tradition in my family...my mum (when she was alive) and my dad always got a copy every Sunday at Mass and now I have moved away from the family home I do the same thing. I read The Times as well, even though I am not right of centre but I can let the politics 'go over my head' and not be persuaded by that with which I disagree.
Ahh fair enough. I would check the Herald's website on a regular basis though; they have some excellent blogs by a variety of authors. The Fr who writes for them is especially excellent



Our PP is a very special person. He is very caring, very funny and very humble...a perfect recipe for a PP...and he is a convert from Anglicanism as well, despite being disowned by his father for doing so.
A good mixture for sure. Our's is similar, though not quite as energetic.

The people might not attend Mass in the numbers they used to...they tend to worship shopping centres on Sundays instead, but they remain essentially Catholic in their dealings with others.



If they are, they'll come round in time...the Irish like to buck against authority...it's part of the Irish psyche that goes back to the times of the Plantation.
Hmm, how very ..... modern. I just worry with the new government in Ireland at the moment. The smaller part of the coalition, the Labour Party, have a free reign over social policy in return for the conservative party having control over economic policy. The abour Party are already starting to push some very anti Catholic ideas

Hopefully the Irish will rebel.
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This literally made me giggle for quite a while:
You found God in junk food :rofl:
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hi guys

i finally found a catholic boyf who respects no sex before marriage and no contraception and goes mass all the time.

but i have these issues:

1) he doesnt believe in evolution, only creationism. this goes against the church right? the church accepts adam and eves were monkey, but with human souls bestowed by God right?

2) he says tattoos are sinful. where in the bible does it say that? dont quote leviticus because it also says if you touch mildew you need to sacrifice a bird and wash in its blood mixed with hyssop. the new covenant was so we didnt need to abide by that anymore

3) he only talks about religion and needs to say certain prayers at certain times, cant think for himself about anything without referring to the Bible, has no opinions other than religious ones.

what do you make of this?
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hi guys

i finally found a catholic boyf who respects no sex before marriage and no contraception and goes mass all the time.

but i have these issues:

1) he doesnt believe in evolution, only creationism. this goes against the church right? the church accepts adam and eves were monkey, but with human souls bestowed by God right?

2) he says tattoos are sinful. where in the bible does it say that? dont quote leviticus because it also says if you touch mildew you need to sacrifice a bird and wash in its blood mixed with hyssop. the new covenant was so we didnt need to abide by that anymore

3) he only talks about religion and needs to say certain prayers at certain times, cant think for himself about anything without referring to the Bible, has no opinions other than religious ones.

what do you make of this?
I think you need to talk through these things with him...
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I think you need to talk through these things with him...
i wondered if his views were widely accepted by other catholics?
i personally beliebe in evolution, tattoos and i only go mass on sundays. plus i have my own opinions and dont automatically need to look at the bible when i want to eg pursue a hobby
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i wondered if his views were widely accepted by other catholics?
i personally beliebe in evolution, tattoos and i only go mass on sundays. plus i have my own opinions and dont automatically need to look at the bible when i want to eg pursue a hobby
The Catholic church is a wide one, and therefore has a huge variety of people. You should discuss these things with him if you have issue with them. One of the things that makes it such a wonderful place imo.
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The Catholic church is a wide one, and therefore has a huge variety of people. You should discuss these things with him if you have issue with them. One of the things that makes it such a wonderful place imo.
do YOU agree with his views? why or why not?

guys:

1) do you believe in evolution?
2) do you pray outside abortion clinics and evangelise people goin in? if not why not?
3) How many times a week on average do you say the rosary?
4) are tattoos sinful - if so, venial or mortal? DONT reply ' i think they are wrong because i dont like it' i want to know if they are sinful.
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