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Calm. He is brilliant.
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OK well sorry if i've offended u but just because u have been touched personally by this france algeria issue doesn't make ur opinions on the Zidane issue superior. I haven't claimed 2 know anything about the france algeria conflict i have merely expressed my opinions regarding racism and retaliation, for which no specialist knowledge is required.
In this instance it would probably help...
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(Original post by XxJaninexX)
No matter what he said, headbutting or physical agression shows he cannot handle is feelings properly or maturely.
:lies:

are you telling me that he's emotionally unstable because of one silly headbutt , one mistake in his great career of football

i think not.
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(Original post by XxJaninexX)
No matter what he said, headbutting or physical agression shows he cannot handle is feelings properly or maturely.
And the fact that he has made a name for himself as one of the greatest footbllers of all time is irellevent eh?

It only adds to his legend.
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agreed! brilliance shall out. le monde is already backing him. rightly so!
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(Original post by Klinsmannic)
In this instance it would probably help...
No i don't need 2 know anything about the france-algeria conflict 2 have an opinion on racism. That's like not being able 2 condemn anti-semitism because u didn't study the holocaust at school.
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Is there a video of the nipple tweak?
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I'm not going to pass judgement on ZZ until i find out what was said to him. Theres no doubting he was an absolute legend and has been a first class player during this world cup and what he did makes you wonder. The fact that he react so severely must show that some sort of emotion got the best of him? Or maybe it was simply;

Devil : "did you just hear what he said to you ZZ?"
Angel : "leave it mate, your better than that, carry on and play to win"
Devil : "Sack that, it's your last match, you might aswell go out with a bang, nutt him!"

Nobody knows how it felt to be in Zidanes shiny gold shoes tonight, until we find out what was said I think we should all agree to disagree before the argument gets out of hand?
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(Original post by naivesincerity)
Is there a video of the nipple tweak?
I would imagine the bbc highlights on bbc.co.uk/football would have the sending off in full.
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This is beyond racism as a word. This is about a lack of social cohesion, not having the right to education, about a racism towards your people and your people alone for no reason. And one which pervades society.

This is far more than "You ******". This is one of the reasons the riots occured in France recently. To understand this you must have some basic knowledge of the Algerian War of Independence and the French mentality.
Without this you can come nowhere near to empathising and so cannot begin to understand why he did what he did.
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fluff[/s].]I'm not going to pass judgement on ZZ until i find out what was said to him. Theres no doubting he was an absolute legend and has been a first class player during this world cup and what he did makes you wonder. The fact that he react so severely must show that some sort of emotion got the best of him? Or maybe it was simply;

Devil : "did you just hear what he said to you ZZ?"
Angel : "leave it mate, your better than that, carry on and play to win"
Devil : "Sack that, it's your last match, you might aswell go out with a bang, nutt him!"

Nobody knows how it felt to be in Zidanes shiny gold shoes tonight, until we find out what was said I think we should all agree to disagree before the argument gets out of hand?
Materazzi probably just offered to shine his baldy head and Zizou obliged and gave it to him. I suppose if you're gonna get yerself sent off it might as well be for something proper than a pussy little push or tap on the cheek
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Legend.
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(Original post by joker_900)
No i don't need 2 know anything about the france-algeria conflict 2 have an opinion on racism. That's like not being able 2 condemn anti-semitism because u didn't study the holocaust at school.
I could get the opinion of a 65 year old Colombian and it would be the same as the opinion of a 12 year old Russian...

We should value expertese on any issue, that's what makes opinions worth listening to. If I want to get views on racism I'll go to Debate and Discussion. What happened tonight has to be treated on it's own merits. There are mitigating circumstances.

Somebody could expect a higher prison sentence for an unprovoked assault. Why? What if the victim was the most notorious trouble-maker in history?
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I never doubted he was and still is an amazing football player.

However, he cant handle abuse so just snaps? If i snapped at every single abuse i got on these streets, i would be serving life time in prison.
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The nipple tweak was shown about 10 times. It was a few seconds before the headbutt
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i uploaded the headbutt video guys, check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY2yryBAhis
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Can someone explain what the significance is of a nipple tweak and why it's deemed offensive?
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(Original post by Phonicsdude)
This is beyond racism as a word. This is about a lack of social cohesion, not having the right to education, about a racism towards your people and your people alone for no reason. And one which pervades society.

This is far more than "You ******". This is one of the reasons the riots occured in France recently. To understand this you must have some basic knowledge of the Algerian War of Independence and the French mentality.
Without this you can come nowhere near to empathising and so cannot begin to understand why he did what he did.
Are you seriously saying that '******' doesn't carry equally huge offensive connatations about blacks and all their struggles in America?! You can't say it doesnt
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(Original post by Klinsmannic)
I could get the opinion of a 65 year old Colombian and it would be the same as the opinion of a 12 year old Russian...

We should value expertese on any issue, that's what makes opinions worth listening to. If I want to get views on racism I'll go to Debate and Discussion. What happened tonight has to be treated on it's own merits. There are mitigating circumstances.
Only based on the assumption that this was related. I think you're reading too much into the nipple tweak but that's just my opinion.
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And banksy, I wonder if your neg rep has anything to do with your annoying signature...
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