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    what exactly are cloward and ohlin's 3 deviant subcultures...our teacher gave us the names but that was it
    The three subcultures are...

    Criminal - this type of subculture is your standard organised crime gang. They arise when there is an thriving criminal culture and access to an illegitimate opportunity structure. The young can assume an "apprenticeship for crime" and can be successful by deviant means. They are concerned with utilitarian crime (monetary).

    Conflict - this subculture arises when there is little or no access to legitimate and illegitmate opportunity structures. They are fustrated about their inability to succeed and turn to violent crime to "vent their anger".

    Retreatist - the "drop outs" of society. They cannot succeed via accepted or deviant means, so they turn to drug taking etc.
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    hey guys, im have in a major stress ..my endless revision fover the past few days... and now my mind has gone BLANK!!!!!! :argh:

    ok, im stuck on the synoptic links for this 12 marker:

    "examine some of the ways in which the concepts of deviance, order and social control are relevant to the study of..... FAMILIIES AND HOUSEHOLDS and/or RELIGION (those are the 2 topics i have covered from the list given)

    id be sooooooo grateful if anyone has any ideas! only 4 more days!!!! :eek:

    hope everyones revision is goin ok

    8owman - thanks for the subculture info on C+O!
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    Hirschi says the family is the main agent of social control because of 4 bonds:

    Attatchment - Learn to care about others
    Commitment - Learn that bad behaviour gets punishment
    Involvement - Spend too much time with family for deviance
    Belief - Feel it's right to be good

    I don't know any religion ones, so I'd do more family:

    Farrington and West - They feel family is essential, and that's evidenced by the fact that a lack of it leads to deviance. They studied male delinquents and they usually came from homes with no father figure, or where the parents had criminal records themselves, so the reason there is this crime is that the family can't perfrom its social control role.

    Dennis - He's a member of the new-right, so he obviously feels families have gone down the wrong path and this is why there's more crime and deviance now. The nuclear families broken, and many parents get divorces which shows lack of commitment, plus women need to spend less time working and more time looking after their children.
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    Morning has broken and yet another day of revision awaits. How important do you think post modern theories of crime would be in terms of revision? What I mean is, is it likely that there would be a 40 marker on it?
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    NEED HELP! .. my notes on marxism seem really short compared to the other approaches and the only key writer i have is Steven Box .. does anyone have any other key writers and what they argue..

    thankyou.. goodluck with your revision guys! keep going! just think it'll all be over in 3days time! cant wait!!!
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    (Original post by Obscured)
    Morning has broken and yet another day of revision awaits. How important do you think post modern theories of crime would be in terms of revision? What I mean is, is it likely that there would be a 40 marker on it?

    i so hope there isnt ....... i don't no the first thing on post-modernism aaarrrggghhhhhh :eek: :eek: :eek:
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    (Original post by Obscured)
    Morning has broken and yet another day of revision awaits. How important do you think post modern theories of crime would be in terms of revision? What I mean is, is it likely that there would be a 40 marker on it?
    Maybe it's technically possible, but I'd say it's really unlikely because it's too small a topic. It's good for evaluation/conclusions so know it anyway - and if it was a 40 marker the average length of essays would be a page, and the boundaries would be low, but I highly doubt this will happen...

    It might well be an 8 or 12 though, basically like with all the topics just learn it... we don't have any choice.
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    (Original post by x clare x)
    NEED HELP! .. my notes on marxism seem really short compared to the other approaches and the only key writer i have is Steven Box .. does anyone have any other key writers and what they argue..

    thankyou.. goodluck with your revision guys! keep going! just think it'll all be over in 3days time! cant wait!!!
    For a start remember that in a marxism essay you can also bring in neo-marxists (Taylor, Walton and Young, etc) and the marxist slant of subcultural theory (Hall, Brake, Willis, Clarke.)

    But those are only paragraphs. As for the actual classical marxists my main authority is Chambliss who said laws work in the interests of the ruling class in 4 main ways:

    1. Sometimes laws are passed to protect the rich e.g. the Vagrancy laws in medieval England which prevented peasants travelling between towns (so they had to put up with whatever they were offered in their town.) But the evaluation there is that this is a really outdates example!

    2. Sometimes a law looks like it will benefit the poor, but really it's to benefit the rich. Chambliss drew on the work of Pearce here, who talked about health and safety regulations in factories. Really that was imposed to drive small business out, and a healthy workforce means more hours working. But you can evaluate this as well saying you can't prove what their motives were, mybe they really do care about the workers.

    3. Sometimes a lack of law benefits the capitialists, Chambliss now drew on the work of Snider who says that governments are reluctant to pass laws going against business e.g. anti-pollution law.

    4. Despite all this the rich commit the most crime, but they get away with it! For example tax evasion costs the state more than benefit fraud, yet it isn't mentioned enough.

    Then I go into how corporate crime is bad, but they get away with it...
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    clare...

    i found the same as ''tis me lord'' also..... that the study in which Chambliss used to suggest how the laws only benefit the r/class is the "Black death" disease where workers desired to move their labour to decrease exposure to the disease. however, capitalist society made this illegal and constrained the w/class to their origin place of work/labour. this allowed the state to bring in the minimum wage and thus further promote capitalism.

    does that make sense? hehe

    what were ur notes on Box???

    xxx
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    (Original post by Obscured)
    Morning has broken and yet another day of revision awaits. How important do you think post modern theories of crime would be in terms of revision? What I mean is, is it likely that there would be a 40 marker on it?


    what would be say about postmodernism???

    anyone know who the key writers are and what they argu by any chance?

    just think.....nest sunday NO REVISION!!!!!! yay

    :party:
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    thank you very much tis me lord and josie.. thats a great help! just gota get my head down and learn it now!!

    my notes on box are quite brief ..

    steven Box 1983 - put forward the argument that when people are released from direct control they are more likely to commit crime because they see the unfairness of the system.

    box argues there are 5 elements that can weaken the bonds of capatalist society and propel individuals into commiting crime

    these include - secrecy, skills, supply, symbolic support and social support.
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    (Original post by x clare x)
    thank you very much tis me lord and josie.. thats a great help! just gota get my head down and learn it now!!

    my notes on box are quite brief ..

    steven Box 1983 - put forward the argument that when people are released from direct control they are more likely to commit crime because they see the unfairness of the system.

    box argues there are 5 elements that can weaken the bonds of capatalist society and propel individuals into commiting crime

    these include - secrecy, skills, supply, symbolic support and social support.
    theres also some notes further back in the thread somewhere on marxism... its an attachment if you need any more. xxx
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    (Original post by Rachelhale15)
    theres also some notes further back in the thread somewhere on marxism... its an attachment if you need any more. xxx
    thanks sweetie il have a look through.. this threads getting really long! gona take me ages! hehe
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    (Original post by xx josie xx)
    hey guys, im have in a major stress ..my endless revision fover the past few days... and now my mind has gone BLANK!!!!!! :argh:

    ok, im stuck on the synoptic links for this 12 marker:

    "examine some of the ways in which the concepts of deviance, order and social control are relevant to the study of..... FAMILIIES AND HOUSEHOLDS and/or RELIGION (those are the 2 topics i have covered from the list given)

    id be sooooooo grateful if anyone has any ideas! only 4 more days!!!! :eek:

    hope everyones revision is goin ok

    8owman - thanks for the subculture info on C+O!
    For religion, you could talk about functionalism, and how Parsons sees it as socialising people into a value consensus which makes them committed to conformity. Remember that Durkheim and other functionalists thought that human nature was inherently impulsive and deviant, and socialisation prevents people from giving into these impulses. Thus religion acts as a tool for social control and prevents people from becoming deviant. You could also talk about the whole "opium of the people" thing (Marx) and how religion prevents a proletarian revolution.
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    (Original post by xx josie xx)
    "examine some of the ways in which the concepts of deviance, order and social control are relevant to the study of..... FAMILIIES AND HOUSEHOLDS and/or RELIGION (those are the 2 topics i have covered from the list given)
    Link to religion:

    Joining cults or sects is deviant although not criminal because it goes against the norms of society. This is especially true of the more 'wacky cults' like the Moonies etc. Although joining a cult/ sect may not be criminal in itself, sometimes the acts committed by these groups are deviant. Eg the People's Temple (started by Rev Jim Jones) coerced/ persuaded all of the members to show their faith by drinking unidentified liquids (which turned out to be cyanide) so they all died.

    The police (who are agents of social control) may sometimes have to intervene in cults if they believe them to be comitting crimes, or believe them to be a potential threat to the public. Eg here:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/3027355.stm

    Also Functionalists (like Parsons and Durkheim) believed that religion helps to maintain social order and with the existence of many different religious groups in society today, it could be argued that religion no longer serves this purpose for society. Some thinkers argue that religion actually threatens social order because it causes conflicts. Traditional Marxists believe that religion does maintain social order but that this is a bad thing because of the social inequalities present in our society. They therefore see deviance as justified and a legitimate response to living in an unfair society.

    Hope this helps!
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    Sorry for including some of your ideas in my post 8owman we cross-posted!
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    Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question (because it is) but when in the exam on wednesday? Is it morning or afternoon? Lost my exam timetable and wondering if there was time on wednesday morning for a bit of last minute cramming lol.

    Please reply someone.
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    Morning

    Ooh and just found a link to an example of where agents of social control (in this case the FBI) have intervened in a religious cult:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/834416.stm
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    thank you clare, 8owman and friends freak...thats really helped!!!! might try a practise question on them now....expect me bk when im stuck hehe


    i've just been lookin at the past papers and they dont ever seem to repeat a 40 mark Q, anyone any ideas on what they could bring up that hasnt already been used.....imagine if its ethnicity aaarrrggghhhhh!!!! :p:
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    (Original post by lemily)
    Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question (because it is) but when in the exam on wednesday? Is it morning or afternoon? Lost my exam timetable and wondering if there was time on wednesday morning for a bit of last minute cramming lol.

    Please reply someone.


    it's at 9am!!! over by half 10 though!!!!
 
 
 
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