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    (Original post by Ladyluck)
    I read on a previous thread about Birmingham Uni open day that a student told one of them that no one got a first in the whole law faculty last year

    Is this normal for a uni with a good rep such as Birmingham or does this highlight some shoddy teaching.

    What is the norm rate of firsts for most average uni's?

    (not that i expect to get one! i a just curious )
    In my year at uni for English 2 out of nearly 200 got a first. I'd say about 45% got 2.1 or above.

    It is true that at some unis in some years noone gets a first.
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    (Original post by Missmoneypenny)
    Im thinking of accepting birm as first too for law. Do you mean a first is hard to get in general or a first in law is particularly hard?

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    Getting a first is hard in general but especially for some subjects simply because they require so much work and dedication.
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    (Original post by Frances)
    86.7% get a 1st or a 2:1 at Oxford compared to 40% at TVU. Probably because your average Oxford student is a slight bit cleverer than your average TVU student, but still.
    Not to mention probably better teaching at Oxford.
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    (Original post by amazingtrade)
    Not to mention probably better teaching at Oxford.
    I would say there is only slightly better teaching at Oxbridge. most of my lecturers at both of my unis were oxbridge or top 10 uni graduates and specialists in their fields. i dont feel disadvantaged teachingwise.
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    (Original post by viviki)
    I would say there is only slightly better teaching at Oxbridge. most of my lecturers at both of my unis were oxbridge or top 10 uni graduates and specialists in their fields. i dont feel disadvantaged teachingwise.
    Yeah, but you're at a good 1st division uni - TVU is less likely to have Oxbridge grads lecturing there.

    For law only one person got a first here at nottingham last year, in general its *much* harder to get firsts in arts subjects than in sciences, a 2.1 is relatively easy (or so it seems now...)but first is near impossible.
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    Yeah, but you're at a good 1st division uni - TVU is less likely to have Oxbridge grads lecturing there.
    You may have a point there TVU dont even have a staff page or at least I couldnt find it.
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    I actually think TVU dosn't exist and its just a spoof. I mean it claims to be based in London, yet the campus is actually in Slough. Its rather like having a Manchester University where the main campus is based in Wigan or somthing.

    TVU is the only higher education establishment to nearly have their degree awarding powers revoked because it was so bad. At one time it had 50% dropout rates near enough. It has improved now because its not at the bottom of the league tables.
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    out of interest what is at the bottom of the league tables

    University of Wales college newport and University of Paisley are both below TVU this year!!
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    wow I cant believe soas has a greater drop out rate than tvu thats an eyeopener!
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...814023,00.html
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    What does SOAS stand for? London Met has a very high drop out rate at almost 40%, Surely this is very bad for the economy?
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    (Original post by amazingtrade)
    What does SOAS stand for? London Met has a very high drop out rate at almost 40%, Surely this is very bad for the economy?
    SOAS is the School of Oriental and African Studies, I think. I think I read somewhere about them blaming the high drop out rate on the fact that people do really difficult langauges... or something :confused: I'll see if I can look it up.
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    Found it!
    http://education.guardian.co.uk/high...861684,00.html

    Professor Colin Bundy, director of Soas, said the school had been very conscious of its retention rate and had been taking steps to remedy the situation. "It may reflect the difficulty in learning foreign languages. Anecdotally there is evidence that kids think they will come here and study Arabic, Urdu or Chinese, but when they get here they find it very daunting." A senior curriculum adviser had been appointed and would be focusing on reviewing the first-year curriculum, added Professor Bundy.
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    (Original post by Frances)
    Found it!
    http://education.guardian.co.uk/high...861684,00.html
    What is the deal with doing law at a place called the school of oriental and african studies, or london school of economics.? I just think its wierd that they do other subjects.

    Why did they not call soas school of african and oriental studies it seems much better that way round and its alphabetical!! lol xxx
 
 
 
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