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    Hey,

    I'd really appreciate people reading this and replying with any thoughts. I really need the help

    I basically would like to know which is the best university out of St Andrews and Manchester and whether a BA or Bsc degree in Economics is better for job prospects.

    I've heard from all my applications now for 2004 entry to Economics.

    Rejected from Oxford, York and Bath and offers from St Andrews, Manchester and Durham.

    I don't particularly want to attend Durham and my offers for St Andrews and Manchester are both ABB. I would like to know which is the best university for Economics and future job prospects. I have visited them both and have no preference so my choice really is coming down to the best reputation and potential future prospects.

    Personally both have one bad point and i can't decide which is worse. St Andrews is a 4 year degree which i'm not sure about but the course in Manchester is run through Arts as a BA and St Andrews as a Bsc. I've heard that employers prefer applicants in the financial/economics field to have Bsc degrees as they show an academic history of maths ability. Does this hold much truth? If so then is 4 years on a Bsc in St Andrews more beneficial to job prospects than the BA course in Manchester. What would everyone else do? The 4 year thing wouldn't bother me that much - Really just want to know what's my better option in terms of getting the best degree and future employment - social factors are a secondary consideration.

    Please offer some advice or thoughts - even just personal opinion would help.
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    Apparently more employers go to Manchester to pick out graduates than any other university. And at St Andrews you'd be there for four years getting the BSc which on the surface looks just like the BA for an extra year. But you could get an MA at St Andrews for the same length of time. And Manchester has a BSc in Economic Science. Economics has a high maths content anyway so I'm not sure if it makes too much difference if you have BA or BSc. I'm going to Manchester hopefully so I'd advise you to go for that. And consider the BSc Economic Science.
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    (Original post by ZJuwelH)
    Apparently more employers go to Manchester to pick out graduates than any other university. And at St Andrews you'd be there for four years getting the BSc which on the surface looks just like the BA for an extra year. But you could get an MA at St Andrews for the same length of time. And Manchester has a BSc in Economic Science. Economics has a high maths content anyway so I'm not sure if it makes too much difference if you have BA or BSc. I'm going to Manchester hopefully so I'd advise you to go for that. And consider the BSc Economic Science.

    So you think overall Manchester offers the best job prospects for something like investment banking and on an individual basis the MA is better than the Bsc in St Andrews and the Economic Science is best for Manchester? Do you know if i would be able to change onto those courses once at either university?
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    (Original post by need_help)
    So you think overall Manchester offers the best job prospects for something like investment banking and on an individual basis the MA is better than the Bsc in St Andrews and the Economic Science is best for Manchester? Do you know if i would be able to change onto those courses once at either university?
    I think you should quite easily be able to change course as it's the same subject. May be a problem at St Andrews as you were admitted by the Faculty of Science and you'd have to transfer to the Faculty of Arts...

    I'd rather go to Manchester because the weather's worse in Scotland and Manchester is more fun, but I don't think your job prospects should be any different if you went to either.
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    (Original post by need_help)
    So you think overall Manchester offers the best job prospects for something like investment banking and on an individual basis the MA is better than the Bsc in St Andrews and the Economic Science is best for Manchester? Do you know if i would be able to change onto those courses once at either university?
    You need Alevel Maths for the BSc Economics course at Manchester and the entry grades are different I think. I would think a BSc in Economics would be better than a BA for future job prospects.
    They probably will let you change courses but the BSc course is harder to get into than the BA one.

    I think you should pick Manchester too.
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    Manchester apparantly produces some the highest earning graduates in the country.
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    (Original post by amazingtrade)
    Manchester apparantly produces some the highest earning graduates in the country.
    A lot of universities do. It's the proportion from Manchester we should analyse.
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    (Original post by ZJuwelH)
    A lot of universities do. It's the proportion from Manchester we should analyse.
    Yeah that is what I meant but I didn't want to say Manchester has the highest in case I was wrong but I know its one of the highest amounts in the country, at least top 5.
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    So everyone thinks Manchester is better in terms of job prospects through an Economics degree? Is that even if it's the BA??

    Does it make a difference that i'm hopefully wanting to get into the financial sector such as investment banking. Does Manchester still have the better reputation for this line of work?
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    (Original post by need_help)
    So everyone thinks Manchester is better in terms of job prospects through an Economics degree? Is that even if it's the BA??

    Does it make a difference that i'm hopefully wanting to get into the financial sector such as investment banking. Does Manchester still have the better reputation for this line of work?
    I don't think the universities should be too different in the job market (apart from my first comment), maybe the consideration needs to be where you'd prefer spending three or four years of your life.
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    I might be out of my mind here, but would it be mad to consider the fact that maybe more people at St. Andrews are likely to be of the errr, social type to go and work in the city? And so to be an investment banker, you might meet people who could help you out later in your career? Bearing in mind I have absolutely no clue what I'm talking about.
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    I thought that for the Scottish unis you did a 4 yr course and ended up with a masters?
    Its the case at Edinburgh anyway.
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    (Original post by viviki)
    I thought that for the Scottish unis you did a 4 yr course and ended up with a masters?
    Its the case at Edinburgh anyway.
    You get the choice of MA or Bsc with Economics - Is the MA better?? than a standard 3 year BA or Bsc in other universities?
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    (Original post by need_help)
    You get the choice of MA or Bsc with Economics - Is the MA better?? than a standard 3 year BA or Bsc in other universities?
    Well an MA is a step up from a BA so yes. I personally would rather have a Bsc than a BA because a batchelor of science sounds more academic. How long is the MA course?
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    (Original post by viviki)
    Well an MA is a step up from a BA so yes. I personally would rather have a Bsc than a BA because a batchelor of science sounds more academic. How long is the MA course?
    They're both 4 years. So what's better: A Bsc from St Andrews or a MA from St Andrews. I gather that they're both better than a BA from Manchester?
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    (Original post by need_help)
    They're both 4 years. So what's better: A Bsc from St Andrews or a MA from St Andrews. I gather that they're both better than a BA from Manchester?
    I'd get the MA, it always looks more impressive to have a masters. But if I had to choose between man and st andrews I'd say it depends what you want. Social life and good employment are a feature of manc but
    st andrews has good rep and a good opportunity to network. Either way you will be going to a great uni. I think I'd be swayed by the masters but maybe its worth seeing them both again first stay overnight to get a good feel of both places.
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    the reason the scottish degrees are longer is the level of scotish highers, they are equal just about to AS not A2 and so the first year is fairly basic if you have an Alevel in a subject apparently! Hence they offer second year entry to (st andrews do definatly not sur ebout all of them)

    i would have personally said st-andrews was more prestigous than manchester, but dont take my word for it! many people see st andrews as the oxford/cambridge of scotland!
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    what subjects are you studying now?
    Judging by looking at the courses if your strengths are science based I'd go for the Bsc if not then the MA
    http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/economic.../faq.shtml#BSc
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    (Original post by viviki)
    what subjects are you studying now?
    Judging by looking at the courses if your strengths are science based I'd go for the Bsc if not then the MA
    http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/economic.../faq.shtml#BSc
    I study Physics, Geography and Business Studies at A'level and took Maths Stats at AS (grade A) - mixed science and arts - not the best subjects for Economics.

    From what everyone has said it seems i have made the wrong choices at both universities in terms of career prospects. I've applied to BA Econ in Manchester which would be better as the EconSc. In St Andrews i have applied for the Bsc and it seems i would be better off with the MA. Am i now right in thinking this? If so i now have two problems instead of one.

    Firstly, will i be able to change to the better course in each university?? I don't have A'level maths but have AS - does this mean i have no chance of changing to the EconSC in Manchester? Can i change faculty in St Andrews?

    Secondly, If i can change then i'm still left with the question of which is better, the MA in St Andrews or the EconSC in Manchester.

    Please post your opinions - i need some help - these universities were not my first choice so i now need to make the best of the situation.
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    (Original post by need_help)
    I study Physics, Geography and Business Studies at A'level and took Maths Stats at AS (grade A) - mixed science and arts - not the best subjects for Economics.

    From what everyone has said it seems i have made the wrong choices at both universities in terms of career prospects. I've applied to BA Econ in Manchester which would be better as the EconSc. In St Andrews i have applied for the Bsc and it seems i would be better off with the MA. Am i now right in thinking this? If so i now have two problems instead of one.

    Firstly, will i be able to change to the better course in each university?? I don't have A'level maths but have AS - does this mean i have no chance of changing to the EconSC in Manchester? Can i change faculty in St Andrews?

    Secondly, If i can change then i'm still left with the question of which is better, the MA in St Andrews or the EconSC in Manchester.

    Please post your opinions - i need some help - these universities were not my first choice so i now need to make the best of the situation.

    I think you will be better off with the Bsc at St Andrews, the site says each course has equal content but the first year subjects for the Bsc are going to be more hard science focus which would suit you with physics and maths. Grad firms normally ask for your modules and results so they will probably appreciate that you have studied the harder option. Also once you have started given that you are going to be in the same department it would probably be possible to transfer to the MA scheme if you were unhappy with the Bsc. I would say now I have looked at the course on the site that the Bsc is probably best for you. Dont panic.
 
 
 
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