best abs machine you have seen , used or heard off?

its called the floor. you do crunches on it.

if i was to start doing crunches every morning before college and before breakfast, then should i allow for rest days.
what i mean is that when you do so many that it really hurts should you do more on that pain the next day or wait for a while.
i really wanna get into a good morning routine.
cheers. bis432 seems well up on this kind of stuff

WRONG!! most ab exercises encourage you to do crunches but that just makes your stomach protrude.

Read Michael Colgan's book power training

The best ab exercise is to lie on a swiss ball with dumbell on your chest and then crunch forward.

Do this a few times. This stops protrusion and gives you a tight muscualr sucked in stomach.

Ok I'll read you the bit from the book, btw this guy has been doin this stuff for 30 years +

'Millions of misguided folk endure endless hours at sit-ups, crunches, leg lifts, Roman chairs and ab machines. The net result of all this agony is a minor increase in ab strength and minimal reduction in the girth of the waistline. You would get better abs with less effort chopping firewood'

'If you want athletic power dont waste your time with conventional ab flapdoodle'

'Haven't you ever wondered why some bodybuilders have incredibly defined abs, but when relaxed, they stick out like a beer belly. Thats what ab training with sit-ups crunches and Roman chairs do for you'

'Still not convinced? Try this. Lie on the floor and put one hand on your gut. Now do any type of crunch or sit up you like. You will feel the stomach bulge immediately as the eight pack shortens and thickens. do those exercises repeatedly and your gut will stick out permanently'

p.S. I apologize for that 'WRONG!!' comment, I guess this prolly sounded arrogant.

Good, you're still online.

Ok, I'll type it for you.

'The transversus is the main muscle that pulls the gut in and holds your organs firm. But despite this clearly defined physiological action, the transversus is hardly ever trained in conventional ab routines, probably because you can't see it in the mirror.'

'You use the transversus whenever you suck in your gut. Because of its attachment to the diaphragm, it also lifts the rib-cage, moving it away from the pelvis, thereby lengthening it and slimming the waist, exactly the opposite action of the eight pack. For a trim waistline, training your transversus to a natural inward curve is the only way to go'

Personally, I have used the swiss ball exercise. In this way your back is arched so when you crunch upwards your gut doesn't get the length of protruding and it thereby crunches internally, if you get what I mean. You know its working after just 4 or 5 bacuse it is absolutely killer. You get used to it though. I think you really have to try it though to understand the difference. I really hope you open your mind.

I have read many exercise books over many years and this one contains truth.

Look, you are not an authority. Dr Michael Colgan is.

What he's saying makes sense.

Your mind is closed so there is no point continuing with you.

whats the best best abs machine you have seen or used or heard off

Bis432 I really dont see how working in a gym part-time gives you a greater view than a man who is a doctor in the subject and has been living and breathing exercise and training for the last 30 years.

Why can't you accept you might be wrong?

You haven't given one academic authority for your assertions.