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Racist Woman On Tram - Charged.

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Reply 20

Lol_Fish

Original post by Bill_Gates

I think she needs some education rather than a sentence. Back to nursery she goes.

Think it'll take light years, to educate this troglodyte.

Reply 21

nmds

Original post by Mr_Deeds

She's being charged, not for holding an opinion, but for the manner in which she expressed it. With rights come responsibilities; you confuse liberty with license.

You are not free if you may not express yourself freely.

And now it seems you're wrong:

A British Transport Police spokesman said: "The video posted on YouTube and
Twitter has been brought to our attention and our officers have launched an
investigation.

"At present it is not entirely clear which tram stops the offence took place
between and when it occurred. As a result we need anyone who witnessed this
incident, or with any information that could assist our investigation -
including the identity of the woman - to contact us.

"We will not tolerate racism in any form on the rail network and will do
everything in our power to locate the person responsible."

The 'offence' was 'racism' -- having doubleplus ungood opinions.

(edited 12 years ago)

Reply 22

Mr_Deeds

Original post by nmds

You are not free if you may not express yourself freely.

But do you not agree that one man's freedom is another man's slavery? Even the most fervent supporters of freedom of expression (of which I am one) believe that there have to be limits and restrictions on the exercise of personal freedoms.

Should a paedophile be permitted to publish explicit material of vulnerable children in the name of freedom of expression? What about the disgruntled government official who wants to leak highly sensitive, secret information which may put the livelihood of a whole nation in jeapordy?

I don't object to people holding racist/homophobic/sexist views (rather, I pity them). I do care, however, when people claim a personal right to carelessly voice racist views irrespective of the rights and freedoms of others.

Reply 23

Clumsy_Chemist

Original post by Komnenos

The only reason she is being charged is because her stupid babblings happened to be offensive to the ~~political elite~~.

General public?

Reply 24

vn2009

Another factor that makes my town (croydon) a dump....

glad she got charged tho!

Reply 25

User570431

Lol shariah law would mean she would probably be whipped....for once I wouldn't mind if they whipped some sense into that racist swearing *****.

Ah, Croydon.

Hope she rots in hell, racist bitch!

Reply 28

+ polarity -

Original post by blu tack

Apart from that, I'm a bit uncomfortable with how she's been treated by the public- the way to counter racism is not with misogny and classism guys :frown:

Maybe everyone is just ignorant deep down, but the ignorance is more obvious in some, than others...

Reply 29

+ polarity -

Original post by blueray

Lol shariah law would mean she would probably be whipped....for once I wouldn't mind if they whipped some sense into that racist swearing *****.

What 5 letter word gets starred here? :beard:

Reply 30

Rtcw

Original post by Dekota-XS

She should be castrated.

Too late. She already has kids.

Reply 31

Clumsy_Chemist

Original post by Rtcw

Too late. She already has kids.

D'oh.

Reply 32

SpicyStrawberry

I hope they throw the book at her and give her the education she clearly missed.

Reply 33

rawkus

Original post by Komnenos

Pathetic. I'm glad its now a crime to hold the wrong opinion and speak your mind about it. Congrats Britain.

Also, before you come at me with the whole "she was disturbing the peace!!!", there are many times crazy/drunk people have caused a scene when I'm on the tube or a bus. Nothing happens.

The only reason she is being charged is because her stupid babblings happened to be offensive to the political elite.

Lol so you are telling me that you have no understanding as to why she was arrested?

Reply 34

nmds

Original post by Mr_Deeds

But do you not agree that one man's freedom is another man's slavery?

It appears that the 'freedom' of people to colonise England has resulted in the slavery of the English. Slavery is violation of consent. This lady, like most of us did not consent to being colonised. Now she may not even express resentment about her country being colonised.

Should a paedophile be permitted to publish explicit material of vulnerable children in the name of freedom of expression?

Vague.

What about the disgruntled government official who wants to leak highly sensitive, secret information which may put the livelihood of a whole nation in jeapordy?

Sounds like he means to violate a contract and harm people. Not the same. This lady is complaining about a breaking of the social contract among citizens to be loyal to one another over foreigners, and about the harm done to her people.

I don't object to people holding racist/homophobic/sexist views (rather, I pity them). I do care, however, when people claim a personal right to carelessly voice racist views irrespective of the rights and freedoms of others.

We have no right to insist that views we do not like are silenced.

(edited 12 years ago)

Reply 35

poolopis01

Original post by blu tack

Apparently she may have mental health issues - http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/29/my-tram-experience-croydon

I sort of called that :tongue:

but yeah, even though she'd probably spit in my face I have some empathy for her.

But just as much that is due a mother with mental health issues. Is she a single parent? Or is there a partner?