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Original post by Kaneki Amano
In the same boat. Been thinking of getting some growth hormone even though I should've done that 5 years ago or something. ARGH

Never used to care about my height till like a month ago for some reason. Very confusing times


you should ask if they ever grew over the past 7 years
Original post by Meowstic
you should ask if they ever grew over the past 7 years


Probably being a dummy but who do you mean when you say "they"
What suddenly made you care if you don't mind me asking? I was the same as you, completely carefree about being a midget until a few months ago when I became really insecure randomly and I hate it. I wish I could go back to my old mindset
Original post by Kaneki Amano
In the same boat. Been thinking of getting some growth hormone even though I should've done that 5 years ago or something. ARGH

Never used to care about my height till like a month ago for some reason. Very confusing times
Original post by TobiasSH
What suddenly made you care if you don't mind me asking? I was the same as you, completely carefree about being a midget until a few months ago when I became really insecure randomly and I hate it. I wish I could go back to my old mindset


Hmmmm. I think it's because I saw a few pictures of myself lately.

Let me start from the beginning but I'll try to make it brief

1. I got a new job, didn't get click with anyone in my group but just put up with them. Prior to this hadn't had a job for a good few months. Introvert me crept back in without me noticing. My anxiety was all over the place and I didn't know how to socialise properly; pair those things with a new job and it makes for a crazy concoction of big no no juice. Plus a major factor was that I spent 3 hours travelling and got up an hour early before I had to travel. I literally only had two to three hours of time to myself in the days at BEST. All of this really did a number on me. Within the first week of my group I couldn't stand this one ******* because he said some **** which made my anxiety the worst it's ever been in my life. It takes a lot to make me cry but this sorta broke me and I literally mean that (I'll say how later) and I ended up asking for transfer to another group knowing how awkward it'd be to still see them around.

2. The above caused me to have unbelievably severe anxiety and for the first time in my life I experienced depersonalisation which is practically living hell. One of my greatest fears came to fruition over the past couple of years I was always thinking about how the personality is what defines us, who we are. And that was destroyed so in my eyes, looking back now, I literally died for a month. I couldn't act normal with anyone at all, not even family. My self-esteem and confidence was blasted into non-existence too as a knock on effect which brings me onto 3.

3. Eventually I regained some personality back but it was only partial, my brain wasn't fully fixed yet and the doctors were absolutely useless. I didn't even get an appointment and was merely redirected to a website. Which did jack btw. At this point my self-esteem and confidence were still in the gutter bit I could still decently communicate with friends now although I obviously was less talkative and less dominant than usual (that makes me cringe and sound like a douche but idk how else to word it).

4. Fast forward a month and I'm more comfortable with me and giving less of a shi* about what others think. I decided to go on holiday with a few friends for a week to Turkey but this was without my CBD oil which I've been using to help manage my anxiety. I was of course worried thinking I may not be able to cope. I went regardless and by the end of the week I had healed so much it's unbelievable. One of the events we had planned on the holiday was quad biking and that includes pictures throughout. There I saw how teeny I really was in relation to them. I actually stated out loud "Jesus I'm tiny" That's when it hit me I guess since I still had low self-esteem and since then the thoughts been lingering in my head. Even though I'm in a much better place with everything in my life which I honestly didn't think possible.

Sorry for the long a** post it's a very bad habit. Can I ask how tall you are if you don't mind? And about the insecure thing it's best to actually develop your personality, pick up hobbies etc.
Feel free to message back whenever you like. I'm probably gonna sleep now so I might not respond immediately if you do
I'm 5'2-5'3 give or take. I also suffer with anxiety, most of my friends are around 6ft tall and usually make fun of me (banter but with anxiety it just makes me insecure) and I'm shorter than most girls which makes me feel really terrible when around big groups because I feel like everyone is noticing it. I've been trying to work out to compensate for my height but getting no results after months of exercising.
Original post by Kaneki Amano
Hmmmm. I think it's because I saw a few pictures of myself lately.

Let me start from the beginning but I'll try to make it brief

1. I got a new job, didn't get click with anyone in my group but just put up with them. Prior to this hadn't had a job for a good few months. Introvert me crept back in without me noticing. My anxiety was all over the place and I didn't know how to socialise properly; pair those things with a new job and it makes for a crazy concoction of big no no juice. Plus a major factor was that I spent 3 hours travelling and got up an hour early before I had to travel. I literally only had two to three hours of time to myself in the days at BEST. All of this really did a number on me. Within the first week of my group I couldn't stand this one ******* because he said some **** which made my anxiety the worst it's ever been in my life. It takes a lot to make me cry but this sorta broke me and I literally mean that (I'll say how later) and I ended up asking for transfer to another group knowing how awkward it'd be to still see them around.

2. The above caused me to have unbelievably severe anxiety and for the first time in my life I experienced depersonalisation which is practically living hell. One of my greatest fears came to fruition over the past couple of years I was always thinking about how the personality is what defines us, who we are. And that was destroyed so in my eyes, looking back now, I literally died for a month. I couldn't act normal with anyone at all, not even family. My self-esteem and confidence was blasted into non-existence too as a knock on effect which brings me onto 3.

3. Eventually I regained some personality back but it was only partial, my brain wasn't fully fixed yet and the doctors were absolutely useless. I didn't even get an appointment and was merely redirected to a website. Which did jack btw. At this point my self-esteem and confidence were still in the gutter bit I could still decently communicate with friends now although I obviously was less talkative and less dominant than usual (that makes me cringe and sound like a douche but idk how else to word it).

4. Fast forward a month and I'm more comfortable with me and giving less of a shi* about what others think. I decided to go on holiday with a few friends for a week to Turkey but this was without my CBD oil which I've been using to help manage my anxiety. I was of course worried thinking I may not be able to cope. I went regardless and by the end of the week I had healed so much it's unbelievable. One of the events we had planned on the holiday was quad biking and that includes pictures throughout. There I saw how teeny I really was in relation to them. I actually stated out loud "Jesus I'm tiny" That's when it hit me I guess since I still had low self-esteem and since then the thoughts been lingering in my head. Even though I'm in a much better place with everything in my life which I honestly didn't think possible.

Sorry for the long a** post it's a very bad habit. Can I ask how tall you are if you don't mind? And about the insecure thing it's best to actually develop your personality, pick up hobbies etc.
Feel free to message back whenever you like. I'm probably gonna sleep now so I might not respond immediately if you do
Original post by TobiasSH
I'm 5'2-5'3 give or take. I also suffer with anxiety, most of my friends are around 6ft tall and usually make fun of me (banter but with anxiety it just makes me insecure) and I'm shorter than most girls which makes me feel really terrible when around big groups because I feel like everyone is noticing it. I've been trying to work out to compensate for my height but getting no results after months of exercising.


5'2-5'3 isn't bad for a girl at all. If you were a dude it'd be a completely different story. I think itd be best if you actually told them how these short jokes actually make you feel. I know it can be hard and a bit awkward but that's the best way forward. You need to have supporting friends and they should be able to stop joking about your height if it makes you feel bad. If they can't/won't then it'd be best to make new friends who do support you instead of joking about you.

The banter is almost definitely just in good fun and not serious but that depends on their tone of voice when they say such things. Trust me, barely anyone will care that your a small girl. I know a few people who actually like that so it could be an advantage to you. If you're still feeling bad about your height, it could've started because of your friends constant banter? Again, just tell them how it makes you feel. Pick up a few hobbies, develop your personality and you'll be fine
I am a skinny 5'2 dude. I wouldn't care if I was a girl lol
Original post by TobiasSH
I am a skinny 5'2 dude. I wouldn't care if I was a girl lol


Jebus my brain's not with it today. I read that as "I'm a 5'2-5'3 girl" for some reason. Could you tell me more about your personal life? Cos that might be part of the reason. For example, if you have any hobbies, how often you go out with friends/meet new people, do you have a partner etc. All these things could affect your insecurity
Yeah it's sort of the same as you where I realise my friends are so tall and I'm a lot smaller then them and it just feels bad. And when I started working out and getting very little muscle growth it just made me very self conscious about my body image as a whole. My main hobbies are fashion wear so I started buying lots of designer clothes which again links to my insecurity about my body image and I realised I was just buying it to sort of mask my shortness and make me feel less bad about how I look
Original post by Kaneki Amano
Jebus my brain's not with it today. I read that as "I'm a 5'2-5'3 girl" for some reason. Could you tell me more about your personal life? Cos that might be part of the reason. For example, if you have any hobbies, how often you go out with friends/meet new people, do you have a partner etc. All these things could affect your insecurity
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Some ppl stop growing at 21, some at 18, some at 16.. growth got no specific age to stop. But just realise that if you’re 21, most likely you won’t grow anymore
Original post by TobiasSH
Yeah it's sort of the same as you where I realise my friends are so tall and I'm a lot smaller then them and it just feels bad. And when I started working out and getting very little muscle growth it just made me very self conscious about my body image as a whole. My main hobbies are fashion wear so I started buying lots of designer clothes which again links to my insecurity about my body image and I realised I was just buying it to sort of mask my shortness and make me feel less bad about how I look


Just keep to your exercising and be consistent. You'll definitely see growth, that's coming from a former skinny boi too. Try and pick up a new hobby or find something that you're interested in, to get into . Art, photography, another language, maybe even TV shows. The list goes on, I'm actually really ill rn so I'll probably revisit this to see if I made any sense/add other useful things to it.
Would you mind sharing your workout? It's been months and I'm having no luck so I really need to switch things up


Original post by Kaneki Amano
Just keep to your exercising and be consistent. You'll definitely see growth, that's coming from a former skinny boi too. Try and pick up a new hobby or find something that you're interested in, to get into . Art, photography, another language, maybe even TV shows. The list goes on, I'm actually really ill rn so I'll probably revisit this to see if I made any sense/add other useful things to it.
Original post by TobiasSH
Would you mind sharing your workout? It's been months and I'm having no luck so I really need to switch things up




Sure thing, I'll list it below:

1. I start with Tricep extensions https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VYgVTinbx_A You might have to start on your knees if these are too difficult to begin with. Consistency is important. These are great for triceps which is what you want to get bigger arms (I do it to hide my elbow bones) 8 reps of these, 3 sets

2. & 3. Diamond push-ups 8 reps, 3 sets. Close push-ups 8 reps, 3 sets

4. Once the above have been done (all together, so extensions, diamonds and then close push-ups in that order) then I move onto my weights. I do 8 reps 3 sets of Skull crushers with an ez bar at 25kg. Capped at this since there are no more weights at home

5. Wide arm chin ups for a bit of back muscle development. Again, 8 reps, 3 sets

6. Reverse bicep curl using a barbell. Only 10kg. My forearms are tiny atm. 8, 3

7. Forearm curls (wrist curls into my arm towards my bicep). 10 reps, 5 sets on my left arm due to under development. Only 3 sets on my right arm

8. Hammer curls, currently working back up to 10kg since I've been ill. Same reps and sets as forearm curls

9. Maximum effort 25kg EZ bar bicep curl

This might be a bit much so I recommend just doing the first 5 or so exercises (or less) just to settle into it then work from there.

I'll pm you a calisthenic routine I used to do which helped a LOT literally within a month and a half. That might be better since you don't have to commit and get the motivation to go gym
Sorry, it doesn't work in pm's

Here's the rest
Ngl looking at all that just seems too much so I'll probably try a couple of them for now for bigger arms. Also noticed theres no ab exercises?
Original post by Kaneki Amano
Sure thing, I'll list it below:

1. I start with Tricep extensions https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VYgVTinbx_A You might have to start on your knees if these are too difficult to begin with. Consistency is important. These are great for triceps which is what you want to get bigger arms (I do it to hide my elbow bones) 8 reps of these, 3 sets

2. & 3. Diamond push-ups 8 reps, 3 sets. Close push-ups 8 reps, 3 sets

4. Once the above have been done (all together, so extensions, diamonds and then close push-ups in that order) then I move onto my weights. I do 8 reps 3 sets of Skull crushers with an ez bar at 25kg. Capped at this since there are no more weights at home

5. Wide arm chin ups for a bit of back muscle development. Again, 8 reps, 3 sets

6. Reverse bicep curl using a barbell. Only 10kg. My forearms are tiny atm. 8, 3

7. Forearm curls (wrist curls into my arm towards my bicep). 10 reps, 5 sets on my left arm due to under development. Only 3 sets on my right arm

8. Hammer curls, currently working back up to 10kg since I've been ill. Same reps and sets as forearm curls

9. Maximum effort 25kg EZ bar bicep curl

This might be a bit much so I recommend just doing the first 5 or so exercises (or less) just to settle into it then work from there.

I'll pm you a calisthenic routine I used to do which helped a LOT literally within a month and a half. That might be better since you don't have to commit and get the motivation to go gym
Original post by TobiasSH
Ngl looking at all that just seems too much so I'll probably try a couple of them for now for bigger arms. Also noticed theres no ab exercises?


I tried incorporating abs but I never keep consistent with it. My routines specialised for my goals so you'll have to find something specific you want to work on or do the calisthenic type one for overall body development
Ok I've added some of these to my new workout plan so thank you so much :smile: anyway how are you getting on with your personality issues and how was the rest of your trip?
Original post by Kaneki Amano
I tried incorporating abs but I never keep consistent with it. My routines specialised for my goals so you'll have to find something specific you want to work on or do the calisthenic type one for overall body development
What's ur height now and how old are u this year
Original post by TobiasSH
Ok I've added some of these to my new workout plan so thank you so much :smile: anyway how are you getting on with your personality issues and how was the rest of your trip?



For my personality issues, I'm still dealing with anxiety but that's just to do with my job. I know I shouldn't feel anxious because literally everything is fine but anxiety doesn't really care for how you feel :/ I have been much happier lately though which is so nice. I haven't felt this happy in a decade or so which is absolutely crazy to me. I forgot how it felt to feel somewhat normal. Weird as it may sound but whenever I get quite ill, I get extremely nostalgic to the point where I feel like I'm literally in that time period. This time I was in Year 4 because it was a similar illness to back then and I got to relive everyday as it came. Just being present and experiencing everything even if I wasn't doing anything, it still felt amazing.

More on topic though, with my insecurities related to my height, all these issues are caused by a loss in self-confidence/self-esteem. It took me years to open up and stop being shy and to be more confident around people without caring about my appearance etc. I even reached a point where I was quite extroverted and could genuinely talk to anyone. Now it's the opposite. Now I need to build myself back up, pick up some new hobbies to prove to myself that the confident me that once was still exists. I think this might help you too, proving to yourself that height doesn't define you and branching out to things you haven't done before. I'm pretty sure you said you were 17 and if that's accurate that's good because you're probably in college. Start hanging out with different people, I remember I did, you talk to your classmates and then eventually revise with them at times, then you meet their friends and build deeper connections so on and so forth. You build a web of support and are surrounded by people who like you and who you like too that don't constantly joke about your height. I remember I used to joke about my height quite a lot so I think being able to actually pick fun at yourself from time to time would be really beneficial for you (this would probably work for new people you meet but not do much your current friends). Obviously with this context and setting are key for cracking jokes like any situation and it can sorta depend on how jokey/serious you area as a person in general. I'm quite the dork so it works for me

Of course it won't be super easy but you have to go out of your comfort zone to be able to grow and overcome whatever insecurities you might have. It all takes time. Some people can bounce back faster than others but it still takes time.

oh btw i'm not sure specifically what you mean by trip so plz lemme know :tongue:
I hope this helps you or at least give you some motivation to push forward and beat you insecurities
I'm actually 19 and finished my first year of uni which was a disaster. I wish I was in college lol, I was in such a better state back then. I started off the year really happy and wanted to make a lot of friends but then my anxiety ruined me. I was only diagnosed a few months back but I really struggled to fit in, found the work really hard and ended up skipping classes for most of the year. I became very introverted, self conscious and I didn't feel like I belonged around all these genius students. After most of my exams I just went back to my room and started crying. My roommates are all athletic lads and really fit in with each other so I felt like an outsider. Was almost completely alone for most of the year apart from some classmates that I briefly met but I wouldn't say we're friends. And then suddenly I started getting insecure about my appearance and height for some reason which I never did before and it came at a very bad time. Now I'm at a very low point after results came as I have to resit nearly all my modules and I have to learn everything before next month and I'm also broke so I don't even know how I'm going to be able to pay £50 per exam so I'm gonna have to apply for financial aid or something. However, I sometimes get the positive thought that once this is out of the way, I have the 2nd year where I get to start again and get a second chance at everything but I have a feeling anxiety is gonna ruin that for me as well. But anyway I've started getting help with this from my uni advisors so I'm trying to be optimistic.

And regards to the trip, I meant the turkey trip that you mentioned before that triggered your height insecurity. I know what it feels like to be the smallest in group pictures.
Original post by Kaneki Amano
For my personality issues, I'm still dealing with anxiety but that's just to do with my job. I know I shouldn't feel anxious because literally everything is fine but anxiety doesn't really care for how you feel :/ I have been much happier lately though which is so nice. I haven't felt this happy in a decade or so which is absolutely crazy to me. I forgot how it felt to feel somewhat normal. Weird as it may sound but whenever I get quite ill, I get extremely nostalgic to the point where I feel like I'm literally in that time period. This time I was in Year 4 because it was a similar illness to back then and I got to relive everyday as it came. Just being present and experiencing everything even if I wasn't doing anything, it still felt amazing.

More on topic though, with my insecurities related to my height, all these issues are caused by a loss in self-confidence/self-esteem. It took me years to open up and stop being shy and to be more confident around people without caring about my appearance etc. I even reached a point where I was quite extroverted and could genuinely talk to anyone. Now it's the opposite. Now I need to build myself back up, pick up some new hobbies to prove to myself that the confident me that once was still exists. I think this might help you too, proving to yourself that height doesn't define you and branching out to things you haven't done before. I'm pretty sure you said you were 17 and if that's accurate that's good because you're probably in college. Start hanging out with different people, I remember I did, you talk to your classmates and then eventually revise with them at times, then you meet their friends and build deeper connections so on and so forth. You build a web of support and are surrounded by people who like you and who you like too that don't constantly joke about your height. I remember I used to joke about my height quite a lot so I think being able to actually pick fun at yourself from time to time would be really beneficial for you (this would probably work for new people you meet but not do much your current friends). Obviously with this context and setting are key for cracking jokes like any situation and it can sorta depend on how jokey/serious you area as a person in general. I'm quite the dork so it works for me

Of course it won't be super easy but you have to go out of your comfort zone to be able to grow and overcome whatever insecurities you might have. It all takes time. Some people can bounce back faster than others but it still takes time.

oh btw i'm not sure specifically what you mean by trip so plz lemme know :tongue:
I hope this helps you or at least give you some motivation to push forward and beat you insecurities

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