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Original post by ras90
Of course some countries can be trusted.

Mainly countries that dont desire for another country to be wiped of the face of the earth.


In which case why would they need WMD's?

WMD's are either an offensive weapon, which is a topic you didn't include, or a defensive weapon, in which case it would be for defending its own country, not another one, which would be a good argument for Iran having WMDs.
Original post by Helloworld_95
In which case why would they need WMD's?

WMD's are either an offensive weapon, which is a topic you didn't include, or a defensive weapon, in which case it would be for defending its own country, not another one, which would be a good argument for Iran having WMDs.


Because Iran are likely to use them with no cause.

You really are stupid.
Original post by ras90
Because Iran are likely to use them with no cause.

You really are stupid.


they've been silent against US and Israeli harassment for 40 years combined with not being involved in any wars which didn't involve protecting their own land.

How is that no cause and how does that make them likely to use them?

I'm someone who has researched this issue considerably including doing an Extended Project on the matter so I'm fairly sure I'm more versed in it than you are, so how exactly am I stupid when you're the one dismissing basic evidence?
I would hope the UK MI5/6 counterintelligence would be preparing for an Iranian attack... here in the UK. Iran will try its damnedest now to launch a terrorist strike against UK interests; either here or abroad through some 3rd party. This is their modus operandi.
Original post by Pax Amerifauna
I would hope the UK MI5/6 counterintelligence would be preparing for an Iranian attack... here in the UK. Iran will try its damnedest now to launch a terrorist strike against UK interests; either here or abroad through some 3rd party. This is their modus operandi.


Lol, don't you worry about that, the only attacks that IRR orchestrates in this country are against Iranian dissidents and the past 32 years have shown that MI5 seem pretty good at turning a blind eye to it all :flute:

Al Qaeda style 7/7 attacks are not IRR's style. Fighting covertly, by proxy is and with diversionary tactics is.
Original post by Democracy
Lol, don't you worry about that, the only attacks that IRR orchestrates in this country are against Iranian dissidents and the past 32 years have shown that MI5 seem pretty good at turning a blind eye to it all :flute:

Al Qaeda style 7/7 attacks are not IRR's style. Fighting covertly, by proxy is and with diversionary tactics is.


I'm fearing something along the lines of the Argentina synagogue incident, especially with the Olympics coming up.
Original post by Helloworld_95
they've been silent against US and Israeli harassment for 40 years combined with not being involved in any wars which didn't involve protecting their own land.

How is that no cause and how does that make them likely to use them?

I'm someone who has researched this issue considerably including doing an Extended Project on the matter so I'm fairly sure I'm more versed in it than you are, so how exactly am I stupid when you're the one dismissing basic evidence?


Oh yeah and tearing the hell out of Lebanon, bombing US and French peacekeepers and installing the Hezbollah cancer which daily terrorizes innocent Lebanese and also Israel, is silent.
Original post by DH-Biker
Here, thought you might appreciate this as well. :tongue:



TO MY AMERICAN SUBJECTS!:

THE QUEEN HAS SENT YOU AN EMAIL





To the citizens of the United States of America from Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.

In light of your immediate failure to financially manage yourselves and also in recent years your tendency to elect incompetent Presidents of the USA and therefore not able to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. (You should look up 'revocation' in the Oxford English Dictionary.)

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths, and territories (except Kansas, which she does not fancy).

Your new Prime Minister, David Cameron, will appoint a Governor for America without the need for further elections.

Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated sometime next year to determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour,' 'favour,' 'labour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix '-ize' will be replaced by the suffix '-ise.' Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (look up 'vocabulary').
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2. Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as ''like' and 'you know' is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take into account the reinstated letter 'u'' and the elimination of '-ize.'
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3. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.
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4. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not quite ready to be independent. Guns should only be used for shooting grouse. If you can't sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not ready to shoot grouse.
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5. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. Although a permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.
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6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.
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7. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline) of roughly $10/US gallon. Get used to it.
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8. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.
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9. The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. New Zealand beer is also acceptable, as New Zealand is pound for pound the greatest sporting nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth - see what it did for them. American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.
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10. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie Macdowell attempt English dialogue in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.
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11. You will cease playing American football. There are only two kinds of proper football; one you call soccer, and rugby (dominated by the New Zealanders). Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies).
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12. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the Australians (World dominators) first to take the sting out of their deliveries.
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13. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.
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14. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due (backdated to 1776).
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15. Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 p.m. with proper cups, with saucers, and never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; plus strawberries (with cream) when in season.

God Save the Queen!


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Reply 148
Original post by Democracy
Lol, don't you worry about that, the only attacks that IRR orchestrates in this country are against Iranian dissidents and the past 32 years have shown that MI5 seem pretty good at turning a blind eye to it all :flute:

Al Qaeda style 7/7 attacks are not IRR's style. Fighting covertly, by proxy is and with diversionary tactics is.


Depends on the nature of the attacks, if its just one guy coming in killing someone then leaving its very difficult to stop it or even realize that its a political assassination not just a normal murder
Reply 149
Original post by Aj12
They plan for everything and this is a contingency plan we are not about to invade Iran


I know...
Reply 150
Original post by ras90
Because Iran are likely to use them with no cause.

You really are stupid.


I highly doubt Iran would use them to be honest.
Original post by Rat_Bag
I highly doubt Iran would use them to be honest.


They wouldnt. Theyd kill the Palestinians and totally destroy important islamic historical sites. They want them in order to remove the nuclear option from Israels table. The US told Israel that them having nukes would start a regional arms race and as usual they wouldnt listen.

During the 1960s, US inspectors visited Dimona several times but were unable to obtain an accurate picture of the activities carried out there.

GlobalSecurity.org says the Israelis went so far as to install false control room panels and to brick over elevators and hallways that accessed certain areas of the facility.

The inspectors were able to report that there was no clear scientific research or civilian nuclear power programme justifying such a large reactor - seen as circumstantial evidence of the Israeli bomb programme - but found no evidence of "weapons-related activities".


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3340639.stm

Sound familiar?
I read in a sunday paper that UK forces will not attack Iran.

I now know that I need to dig a bunker in my parents back garden and get myself a large slab of lead because quite frankly, this world is going to go tits up within 2 years at this rate.
Reply 153
i don know, is it really neccessory 4 iran to be attacked?
i mean, things are really messed up in here.quiet big scandals every day. people are not satisfied with the government. its like a dictatorship system.
so, U C people on one side, and the country leaders on another. BUT war will hurt all. a lot of damage, unneeded damage will be done. is it really necessory? AND, another thing. we have a LOT of wars in the world. libia, iraq, afqanistan, and if we add IRAN, then everything gets messed up.
Reply 154
Original post by Akuma
They wouldnt. Theyd kill the Palestinians and totally destroy important islamic historical sites. They want them in order to remove the nuclear option from Israels table. The US told Israel that them having nukes would start a regional arms race and as usual they wouldnt listen.

I agree, it is strategic diplomatic tool rather than a potential military tool. Iran is much less militarily aggressive than the Western powers give it credit for. But it is extremely politically and diplomatically aggressive, but no more so than the Western powers. That's why it's seen as such a threat, because unlike other "enemy states", Iran is actually very effective in its efforts to influence events outside its borders. Can't really say the same for North Korea or Cuba.
Reply 155
Original post by paulhenry
i don know, is it really neccessory 4 iran to be attacked?
i mean, things are really messed up in here.quiet big scandals every day. people are not satisfied with the government. its like a dictatorship system.
so, U C people on one side, and the country leaders on another. BUT war will hurt all. a lot of damage, unneeded damage will be done. is it really necessory? AND, another thing. we have a LOT of wars in the world. libia, iraq, afqanistan, and if we add IRAN, then everything gets messed up.


Not only is it objectively unnecessary to adopt a military solution in Iran, but it would strategically be a very bad decision.
Reply 156
Original post by Rat_Bag
Not only is it objectively unnecessary to adopt a military solution in Iran, but it would strategically be a very bad decision.


So is allowing an Iranian nuke. Stuck between a rock and a hard place
gud, iran guys insulted us so we shud attack em, i wud if i were PM, iran needs to keep its people under control!
Reply 158
Original post by Elipsis
It shouldn't be as bad as Afghanistan. Fingers crossed it will just be a conventional war - go in, win, install a government that is friendlier, go home. Rather than having to stick around fighting those who can't take the fact they lost. Then again that is the Arab way, so who knows?!


The UK would get owned in a conventional war with Iran.
Reply 159
Anyone who really thinks Iran so big of a threat that war is our only option needs to calm the **** down. Stop being so gullible, Ahmedijawhatever talks a load of bull. If his threats scare you enough to want to go to war you need a reality check (this goes to the US too)! Iran is a middle-level power with a very unpopular/dysfunctional government. The US already helped Iran by getting rid of saddam/taliban leaving Iran with no natural enemies. The Iranian "threat" is incredibly over-hyped... Iran's GPD is roughly that of the US state of Florida... so clearly Iran is not a dominant world power. Iran's defence expenditures (around 20 billion dollars) adds up to roughly 3 months budget of US's operations in Iraq. Most of Iran’s expenditures are spent on defence equipment even though they lack heavy lift; heavy amour and long ring strike aircraft. Looks like Iran can only operate through terrorism... but it doesn't seem likely.

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