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VoodooDoll
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(Original post by llama boy)
And you really don't see the irony of this?
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If you work hard, is it not fair that you should reap the rewards, one of which may be the pleasure in seeing your offspring gain from having a better start than their parents?
Put this another way, is it the working class child's fault that his/her parents can't reap any rewards simply because they were once in the same position as their children; caught in a system which punishes
generations of people simply because of their economic circumstances.

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That said, does money really buy entrance to a redbrick university? Personally I don't think it does, and I'd like to explain myself a bit more but I have exams to revise for
You are right. But can you understand why working class students would be put of by the thought of going to university... they will most probably have to work verfy hard to make ends meet, and even then it will be extremely tight for them. Infact there is a correlation between financial pressure and academic sucess-- see Norrington/Thompson tables and compare them to living expenses for each college. Is this fair?
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it does in the sense that the applicant is more likely to have so called "cultural capital" and know how to talk about intellectual issues and have a better knowledge of current affairs etc if there parents are middle class, which therefore would make them more appealing to redbrick unis.
Exactly.
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Personally I find communism to be diseased both off and on paper. I've never understood that line "Communism looks fine, on paper."

I also think it's diseased that people get a headstart in life becuase of their parents' wealth.
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...can you understand why working class students would be put of by the thought of going to university... they will most probably have to work verfy hard to make ends meet, and even then it will be extremely tight for them. Infact there is a correlation between financial pressure and academic sucess-- see Norrington/Thompson tables and compare them to living expenses for each college. Is this fair?
No, it's not fair. While I think that it is possible for just about anyone to get into a decent university if they work hard enough, having the money to cover the costs of living is another matter, that's why I don't agree with the concept of tuition fees.
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Private schools give out scholarships and bursaries, so if you're clever and poor you can still go to one! Anyway as long as you're clever you'll do well wherever you go.

The UK university sustem is fairer than the american one, think of how much it would cost a poor studen to go to Harvard.
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Anyway as long as you're clever you'll do well wherever you go.
Thats exactly how it SHOULD happen.

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The UK university sustem is fairer than the american one, think of how much it would cost a poor studen to go to Harvard.
You've just neatly summed up how unfair a capitlist society can be. Thankfully we are somewhat more socialist than in America.
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