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Depends on what subjects you're looking at. This is a start: http://www.timeshighereducation.co.u...2/top-400.html
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Hmm I would put UCL in line with the lower Ivies/other top-tier US unis. So maybe Dartmouth, Georgetown, NYU, UChicago that region if you can follow me. Quite arbitrary really and like I said depends on concerned subject. For example, Georgetown would trump UCL with regards to international relations/politics whilst UCL would definitely pip it in terms of life sciences.
KCL I would put a far bit below the Ivies really....as for LSE since it's so specialised it's hard to fix it a rank. I would put it with HYPSM and Oxbridge whilst looking at economics/social sciences.
KCL I would put a far bit below the Ivies really....as for LSE since it's so specialised it's hard to fix it a rank. I would put it with HYPSM and Oxbridge whilst looking at economics/social sciences.
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In general (not referring to any particular subjects),
Oxbridge ~ Harvard, Yale
LSE ~ UChicago, Stanford, Cornell (Actually, Cornell<UChicago and Standford)
UCL ~ Cornell, Northwestern
KCL ~ Georgetown, NYU, USC, UCLA
Oxbridge ~ Harvard, Yale
LSE ~ UChicago, Stanford, Cornell (Actually, Cornell<UChicago and Standford)
UCL ~ Cornell, Northwestern
KCL ~ Georgetown, NYU, USC, UCLA
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It's difficult because universities in the US are much better funded than those in the UK, and therefore can spend a lot more on both academics and marketing, which is probably why a lot more are very well known worldwide.
I'll have a go trying to compare them though, just for fun!
Oxbridge - The very best the UK has to offer, probably comparable with Harvard, Princeton and Yale in the US in terms of both academic and longstanding tradition.
Imperial - ICL is not far behind Oxbridge at all, and i'd say that it is comparable with MIT as they both specialize in sciences (although I am aware that MIT offers other degrees whereas ICL is solely science)
LSE - LSE isn't far behind Oxbridge either regarding social sciences, and is probably considered better than Oxford for undergrad economics. It's hard to compare LSE to another US institution because of it's specialised nature, however I'd say that for what it offers, it's considered amongst the very best, so I'd say its comparable to UPenn and Stanford.
UCL - unlike LSE and ICL, UCL is a multifaculty University, and has a very strong reputation both here and worldwide, and I'd say that it's quite similar to Columbia.
Durham - Durham is the third oldest University in the UK after oxbridge, and also has a collegiate system (although Durham's is a tad different). Along with UCL, it's considered one of the UK's best multifaculty universities outside of Oxbridge. I'd say that it is comparable to Dartmouth and Brown in the US
Nottingham - has very strong Law and Economics departments, having produced an economics nobel winner recently, has quite a significant international intake, as well as campuses in China and Malaysia, I'd say it is comparable to Berkeley in the US.
KCL - still has a good reputation, although in the past it was held in a lot higher regard, yet has slipped a bit in UK league tables here - still has an outstanding medical school and Law school though, probably comparable to NYU and Boston College.
I'll have a go trying to compare them though, just for fun!
Oxbridge - The very best the UK has to offer, probably comparable with Harvard, Princeton and Yale in the US in terms of both academic and longstanding tradition.
Imperial - ICL is not far behind Oxbridge at all, and i'd say that it is comparable with MIT as they both specialize in sciences (although I am aware that MIT offers other degrees whereas ICL is solely science)
LSE - LSE isn't far behind Oxbridge either regarding social sciences, and is probably considered better than Oxford for undergrad economics. It's hard to compare LSE to another US institution because of it's specialised nature, however I'd say that for what it offers, it's considered amongst the very best, so I'd say its comparable to UPenn and Stanford.
UCL - unlike LSE and ICL, UCL is a multifaculty University, and has a very strong reputation both here and worldwide, and I'd say that it's quite similar to Columbia.
Durham - Durham is the third oldest University in the UK after oxbridge, and also has a collegiate system (although Durham's is a tad different). Along with UCL, it's considered one of the UK's best multifaculty universities outside of Oxbridge. I'd say that it is comparable to Dartmouth and Brown in the US
Nottingham - has very strong Law and Economics departments, having produced an economics nobel winner recently, has quite a significant international intake, as well as campuses in China and Malaysia, I'd say it is comparable to Berkeley in the US.
KCL - still has a good reputation, although in the past it was held in a lot higher regard, yet has slipped a bit in UK league tables here - still has an outstanding medical school and Law school though, probably comparable to NYU and Boston College.
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Cambridge - Harvard
Oxford - Yale
Imperial - MIT
UCL - Stanford
Nottingham - UCLA
KCL - UC Berkeley
Durham - Brown maybe
Oxford - Yale
Imperial - MIT
UCL - Stanford
Nottingham - UCLA
KCL - UC Berkeley
Durham - Brown maybe
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In my opinion it would roughly be...
Oxford - Harvard
Cambridge - Yale
St Andrews - Princeton
LSE - MIT
UCL - Stanford
Imperial College - Columbia
Durham - Dartmouth College
And then the other good universities but lower ranked...
Nottingham - UCLA
Exeter - Michigan
Glasgow - University of Texas at Austin
Manchester - NYU
Oxford - Harvard
Cambridge - Yale
St Andrews - Princeton
LSE - MIT
UCL - Stanford
Imperial College - Columbia
Durham - Dartmouth College
And then the other good universities but lower ranked...
Nottingham - UCLA
Exeter - Michigan
Glasgow - University of Texas at Austin
Manchester - NYU
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As of December 2011:
1. Caltech - Cambridge
2. Harvard - Oxford
3. Stanford - St. Andrews
4. Princeton - LSE
5. MIT - UCL
6. Chicago - Warwick
7. UC Berkeley - Lancaster
8. Yale - Durham
9. Columbia - Imperial
10. UCLA - Loughborough
1. Caltech - Cambridge
2. Harvard - Oxford
3. Stanford - St. Andrews
4. Princeton - LSE
5. MIT - UCL
6. Chicago - Warwick
7. UC Berkeley - Lancaster
8. Yale - Durham
9. Columbia - Imperial
10. UCLA - Loughborough
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It's difficult because universities in the US are much better funded than those in the UK, and therefore can spend a lot more on both academics and marketing, which is probably why a lot more are very well known worldwide.
I'll have a go trying to compare them though, just for fun!
Oxbridge - The very best the UK has to offer, probably comparable with Harvard, Princeton and Yale in the US in terms of both academic and longstanding tradition.
Imperial - ICL is not far behind Oxbridge at all, and i'd say that it is comparable with MIT as they both specialize in sciences (although I am aware that MIT offers other degrees whereas ICL is solely science)
LSE - LSE isn't far behind Oxbridge either regarding social sciences, and is probably considered better than Oxford for undergrad economics. It's hard to compare LSE to another US institution because of it's specialised nature, however I'd say that for what it offers, it's considered amongst the very best, so I'd say its comparable to UPenn and Stanford.
UCL - unlike LSE and ICL, UCL is a multifaculty University, and has a very strong reputation both here and worldwide, and I'd say that it's quite similar to Columbia.
Durham - Durham is the third oldest University in the UK after oxbridge, and also has a collegiate system (although Durham's is a tad different). Along with UCL, it's considered one of the UK's best multifaculty universities outside of Oxbridge. I'd say that it is comparable to Dartmouth and Brown in the US
Nottingham - has very strong Law and Economics departments, having produced an economics nobel winner recently, has quite a significant international intake, as well as campuses in China and Malaysia, I'd say it is comparable to Berkeley in the US.
KCL - still has a good reputation, although in the past it was held in a lot higher regard, yet has slipped a bit in UK league tables here - still has an outstanding medical school and Law school though, probably comparable to NYU and Boston College.
It's difficult because universities in the US are much better funded than those in the UK, and therefore can spend a lot more on both academics and marketing, which is probably why a lot more are very well known worldwide.
I'll have a go trying to compare them though, just for fun!
Oxbridge - The very best the UK has to offer, probably comparable with Harvard, Princeton and Yale in the US in terms of both academic and longstanding tradition.
Imperial - ICL is not far behind Oxbridge at all, and i'd say that it is comparable with MIT as they both specialize in sciences (although I am aware that MIT offers other degrees whereas ICL is solely science)
LSE - LSE isn't far behind Oxbridge either regarding social sciences, and is probably considered better than Oxford for undergrad economics. It's hard to compare LSE to another US institution because of it's specialised nature, however I'd say that for what it offers, it's considered amongst the very best, so I'd say its comparable to UPenn and Stanford.
UCL - unlike LSE and ICL, UCL is a multifaculty University, and has a very strong reputation both here and worldwide, and I'd say that it's quite similar to Columbia.
Durham - Durham is the third oldest University in the UK after oxbridge, and also has a collegiate system (although Durham's is a tad different). Along with UCL, it's considered one of the UK's best multifaculty universities outside of Oxbridge. I'd say that it is comparable to Dartmouth and Brown in the US
Nottingham - has very strong Law and Economics departments, having produced an economics nobel winner recently, has quite a significant international intake, as well as campuses in China and Malaysia, I'd say it is comparable to Berkeley in the US.
KCL - still has a good reputation, although in the past it was held in a lot higher regard, yet has slipped a bit in UK league tables here - still has an outstanding medical school and Law school though, probably comparable to NYU and Boston College.
Chicago??? UCLA???
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For what it's worth, I'd say Caltech would be comparable to Imperial, in the same way MIT is, Chicago I'd say maybe with Nottingham in the sense that they are both large multi-faculties, but both have very strong Economics departments, and UCLA probably with King's in London (i.e KCL is considered the second best multi-fac in UoL, UCLA the same in UC, but both are held in high regard)
I'm really not an expert when it comes to US unis, so definitely take with a pinch of salt!
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Oxbridge is comparable to Cornell.... HYPSM are a league way above Oxbridge.
Oxbridge is comparable to Cornell.... HYPSM are a league way above Oxbridge.
Cambridge and Oxford are without a doubt held in the same regard as Harvard, Yale and MIT, and probably held in higher regard than Penn and Stanford.
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Oxbridge is comparable to Cornell.... HYPSM are a league way above Oxbridge.
Oxbridge is comparable to Cornell.... HYPSM are a league way above Oxbridge.
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What I said was simply the hard truth: HYPSM are way way more selective than Oxbridge. Oxbridge is roughly as selective as Cornell.
I also spoke from personal experience. I was accepted by many top UK unis like Oxford, LSE and UCL but rejected by many US unis like Yale, Duke and UChicago.
Yes, reputation and prestige wise, Oxbridge is on par with the top US unis. But the admission rates tell a different story of the quality of the students.
Anybody else cares to refute?
I also spoke from personal experience. I was accepted by many top UK unis like Oxford, LSE and UCL but rejected by many US unis like Yale, Duke and UChicago.
Yes, reputation and prestige wise, Oxbridge is on par with the top US unis. But the admission rates tell a different story of the quality of the students.
Anybody else cares to refute?
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What I said was simply the hard truth: HYPSM are way way more selective than Oxbridge. Oxbridge is roughly as selective as Cornell.
I also spoke from personal experience. I was accepted by many top UK unis like Oxford, LSE and UCL but rejected by many US unis like Yale, Duke and UChicago.
Yes, reputation and prestige wise, Oxbridge is on par with the top US unis. But the admission rates tell a different story of the quality of the students.
Anybody else cares to refute?
What I said was simply the hard truth: HYPSM are way way more selective than Oxbridge. Oxbridge is roughly as selective as Cornell.
I also spoke from personal experience. I was accepted by many top UK unis like Oxford, LSE and UCL but rejected by many US unis like Yale, Duke and UChicago.
Yes, reputation and prestige wise, Oxbridge is on par with the top US unis. But the admission rates tell a different story of the quality of the students.
Anybody else cares to refute?
I think that Oxbridge look a lot more at academics whereas the HYPSM look at the whole person (i.e. academics and extra-curricular activities)
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What I said was simply the hard truth: HYPSM are way way more selective than Oxbridge. Oxbridge is roughly as selective as Cornell.
I also spoke from personal experience. I was accepted by many top UK unis like Oxford, LSE and UCL but rejected by many US unis like Yale, Duke and UChicago.
Yes, reputation and prestige wise, Oxbridge is on par with the top US unis. But the admission rates tell a different story of the quality of the students.
Anybody else cares to refute?
What I said was simply the hard truth: HYPSM are way way more selective than Oxbridge. Oxbridge is roughly as selective as Cornell.
I also spoke from personal experience. I was accepted by many top UK unis like Oxford, LSE and UCL but rejected by many US unis like Yale, Duke and UChicago.
Yes, reputation and prestige wise, Oxbridge is on par with the top US unis. But the admission rates tell a different story of the quality of the students.
Anybody else cares to refute?
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What I said was simply the hard truth: HYPSM are way way more selective than Oxbridge. Oxbridge is roughly as selective as Cornell.
I also spoke from personal experience. I was accepted by many top UK unis like Oxford, LSE and UCL but rejected by many US unis like Yale, Duke and UChicago.
Yes, reputation and prestige wise, Oxbridge is on par with the top US unis. But the admission rates tell a different story of the quality of the students.
Anybody else cares to refute?
What I said was simply the hard truth: HYPSM are way way more selective than Oxbridge. Oxbridge is roughly as selective as Cornell.
I also spoke from personal experience. I was accepted by many top UK unis like Oxford, LSE and UCL but rejected by many US unis like Yale, Duke and UChicago.
Yes, reputation and prestige wise, Oxbridge is on par with the top US unis. But the admission rates tell a different story of the quality of the students.
Anybody else cares to refute?
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What I said was simply the hard truth: HYPSM are way way more selective than Oxbridge. Oxbridge is roughly as selective as Cornell.
I also spoke from personal experience. I was accepted by many top UK unis like Oxford, LSE and UCL but rejected by many US unis like Yale, Duke and UChicago.
Yes, reputation and prestige wise, Oxbridge is on par with the top US unis. But the admission rates tell a different story of the quality of the students.
Anybody else cares to refute?
What I said was simply the hard truth: HYPSM are way way more selective than Oxbridge. Oxbridge is roughly as selective as Cornell.
I also spoke from personal experience. I was accepted by many top UK unis like Oxford, LSE and UCL but rejected by many US unis like Yale, Duke and UChicago.
Yes, reputation and prestige wise, Oxbridge is on par with the top US unis. But the admission rates tell a different story of the quality of the students.
Anybody else cares to refute?
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Sorry for hijacking this thread.
I'm wondering how you would compare Durham and Nottingham with University of Michigan in the US, for economics particularly. On international league tables UMichigan is ranked higher, but I suppose it's because of its research output and funding, whereas Nottingham and Durham are both highly regarded in the UK. I'm mainly concerned about the undergraduate teaching at these 3 universities, so any feedback on them will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks.
I'm wondering how you would compare Durham and Nottingham with University of Michigan in the US, for economics particularly. On international league tables UMichigan is ranked higher, but I suppose it's because of its research output and funding, whereas Nottingham and Durham are both highly regarded in the UK. I'm mainly concerned about the undergraduate teaching at these 3 universities, so any feedback on them will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks.
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