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C2 - Radians help please

Hi i dont have answers to these questions but can someone please check and help me with the following - rep will be given + diagram attached

1) The diagram shows a minor sector OMN of a circle centre O and radius r cm. The perimeter of a sector is 100cm and the area of the sector is Acm^2.

a) show that A= 50r - r^2

I dont know how to do this one :confused:

b) Given that r varies, find :

i) The value of r for which A is a mximum and show that A is a maximum.

Rite here is my answer :
dA/dr = 50 - 2r
0 = 50 - 2r
2r = 50
r = 25cm

and its a maximum because d2A/dr2 = -2 which is >0 is this right?

ii) The value of <MON for this maximum area.

I dont know how to do this question - i tried doing P: 100 = 2r + r(theta)

But i get theta = 2?

And the third part i wil be able to do "find the maximum area of the sector OMN" if i have the answer to the second part.

Thanks for your time and effort,

Regards, Asad

Reply 1

1)a)

The Perimeter = 2r + rx (where x is the angle of the minor sector in radians)

So 100 = 2r + rx
r(2+x) = 100
x = (100/r) - 2

The Area = 0.5r^2*x

= 0.5r^2*(100/r - 2)
= 50r - r^2

b) i) This is correct

Reply 2

Thanks a lot - do you know the answer to finding out the angle <MON

Using your formula for the first part it would be 2? What is 2 radians - in other words how do i express this

Reply 3

asadtamimi
Thanks a lot - do you know the answer to finding out the angle <MON

Using your formula for the first part it would be 2? What is 2 radians - in other words how do i express this


Yes, the answer is 2 radians (you can leave it at that unless you want to convert it into degrees)

Reply 4

Hi can someone please help me with this question as well - cos im clueless about this topic and can you explain to me how and why you have worked it out the way you have:

The diagram shows a circle, centre O, of radius 6 cm. The points A and B are on the circumference of the circle. The area of the shaded major sector is 80cm^2. Given that <AOB = (theta) radians, where 0<theta<pie. calculate:

a) The value, to 3 decimal places, of theta

b) the length in cm, to 2 decimal places, of the minor arc AB

Reply 5

asadtamimi
Hi can someone please help me with this question as well - cos im clueless about this topic and can you explain to me how and why you have worked it out the way you have:

The diagram shows a circle, centre O, of radius 6 cm. The points A and B are on the circumference of the circle. The area of the shaded major sector is 80cm^2. Given that <AOB = (theta) radians, where 0<theta<pie. calculate:

a) The value, to 3 decimal places, of theta

b) the length in cm, to 2 decimal places, of the minor arc AB


a) r²(2pi - x)/2 = 80

(x is the angle of the major sector)

theta = (2pi - 40/9) radians = 1.83874086... radians = 1.839 radians (3 d.p.)

b) rtheta = 6*1.83874086... = 11.0324...cm = 11.03cm (2 d.p.)

I think these are right.

Hope they help,

~~Simba

Reply 6

Yes they are right - thanks but why did you do r^2(2pi - theta)/2 = 80? is there a specific formula for these things?

Reply 7

oh wait i had the same formula but i had (theta - sintheta) in the brackets - when would that apply?

Reply 8

Well, the equation to find the angle 'x' of the major sector would be:

r²x/2 = 80

Since we want the angle of the minor sector, and we know that there are 2pi radians in a circle, we use (2pi - x) instead. This represents theta :smile: . I edited my previous post as my working wasn't very clear.

Reply 9

asadtamimi
oh wait i had the same formula but i had (theta - sintheta) in the brackets - when would that apply?


Not sure, I don't think I've used that one before.

Reply 10

Oh ok thanks a lot - your better then my teachers :p: But can i bother you just one last time please.

I have attached a diagram to the last question which i dont know how to do.

Triangle ABC has AB = 9cm, BC = 10cm and CA = 5cm. A circle, centre A and radius 3cm intersects AB and AC at P and Q respectively, as show in the diagram.

Show that, to 3 decimal places, <BAC = 1.504 radians.

Reply 11

Thanks :p: ...

Just use the cosine rule here:

cosA = (b² + - a²)/2bc

cosA = 1/15

=> A = 1.504080... radians = 1.504 radians (3 d.p.)

Hope this helps,

~~Simba

Reply 12

I know this thread is old, but can anyone explain how this answer of theta being 2 was worked out? Thanks

Original post by asadtamimi
Thanks a lot - do you know the answer to finding out the angle <MON

Using your formula for the first part it would be 2? What is 2 radians - in other words how do i express this

Reply 13

does anyone know what paper is this question on?

Reply 14

I have a question about the question that started this thread, the second part asks how you can show that A is a maximum for that value of r. How do I do this?

Reply 15

Original post by rejwana
I have a question about the question that started this thread, the second part asks how you can show that A is a maximum for that value of r. How do I do this?


Show that the second derivative for that value is less than 0.

Please don't post on old threads like these. Start a new one instead :smile: