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Placement Year or Masters

Hi there,

Just wanted another take on some views regarding this point.

Now I'm studying a Combined Honours degree whilst one half of my degree is soley dependant on getting a succesful placement year for work the other half is a difficult discipline to get into jobs wise and would require further qualifications such as a master.

The placement year and Masters are around the same length of time but I'm not sure what route to take?

Reply 1

Placement Year.

Employers are getting caught up on how much experience you have on your CV. Quite rightly too. There is only so much lectures and studies can teach you.

Just my opinion, only go down that route if you can get into a highly regarded company. Industry experience is probably the thing that would bag you a job over someone who spent an extra year studying

Reply 2

True Dan,

Thanks for the reply fella.

Reply 3

Placement year.

As well as the whole work experience thing, postgraduate education is a total pain in the arse. If you absolutely have to do it, put it off for as long as possible and preferably take a proper break before starting. I am speaking from experience here :smile:

Reply 4

Placement year. I just had my placement year and learnt loads from it that uni just simply cant teach. Also youre more aware of the industry and feel better prepared when actually looking for a job. If your like most of the students including me your get an offer to stay full time after you graduate.

My advice for looking for a placement is to look for one yourself, ask if there is anything available even if nothing is posted. A lot of students fall into the trap of applying to the listings the uni placement office has provided. Problem is everyone else is chasing the same placement!

Completing your placement will show potential employers that your not totally useless at doing the job.

Reply 5

Original post by rjm101
Placement year. I just had my placement year and learnt loads from it that uni just simply cant teach. Also youre more aware of the industry and feel better prepared when actually looking for a job. If your like most of the students including me your get an offer to stay full time after you graduate.

My advice for looking for a placement is to look for one yourself, ask if there is anything available even if nothing is posted. A lot of students fall into the trap of applying to the listings the uni placement office has provided. Problem is everyone else is chasing the same placement!

Completing your placement will show potential employers that your not totally useless at doing the job.


Is the placement year worth the extra money?

Reply 6

Original post by cashmoneyorg
Is the placement year worth the extra money?


It cost me around £800 tuition fees that year. Its a rip off considering I didnt have any lectures that year and only had coursework to submit plus 2 tutor visits but yes it is worth it because of the experiance you get. Plus most students got paid for it and got a full time offer at the end of it including me so there is a real benefit. People coming out with just a degree really do lack experiance so having a placement year helps you get employment and more importantly it allows you to reflect on the placement and identify what you did and didnt like about the job, so you can make a good decision when looking for full time employment.

When I get my degree I get "with proffessional development" at the end if it makes any difference lol. The important thing is you see a real difference in quality of work when comparing the students that did a placement and those that didnt, its striking at times because my degree is very much orientated around web design/development, 3D, animation etc so the difference most of the time is clear because the work is most of the time visual. It may not be as obvious if you did a some sort of business placement but the skills you learnt would still be there.

So if your degree allows you to do a placement year, take it! You come back to uni a lot more confident because you know what the industry is like and I feel that Id be more confident when looking for a job as I'd know what they would expect of me.
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Reply 7

Original post by rjm101
It cost me around £800 tuition fees that year. Its a rip off considering I didnt have any lectures that year and only had coursework to submit plus 2 tutor visits but yes it is worth it because of the experiance you get. Plus most students got paid for it and got a full time offer at the end of it including me so there is a real benefit. People coming out with just a degree really do lack experiance so having a placement year helps you get employment and more importantly it allows you to reflect on the placement and identify what you did and didnt like about the job, so you can make a good decision when looking for full time employment.

When I get my degree I get "with proffessional development" at the end if it makes any difference lol. The important thing is you see a real difference in quality of work when comparing the students that did a placement and those that didnt, its striking at times because my degree is very much orientated around web design/development, 3D, animation etc so the difference most of the time is clear because the work is most of the time visual. It may not be as obvious if you did a some sort of business placement but the skills you learnt would still be there.

So if your degree allows you to do a placement year, take it! You come back to uni a lot more confident because you know what the industry is like and I feel that Id be more confident when looking for a job as I'd know what they would expect of me.


The courses w/ placements years are 4 years, does this mean I will pay 4x 9k ?

Reply 8

Yes.

But when you graduate then get yourself into a £27,000 P/A job think how long it's going to take you to pay back, in yearly installments over 10 years?

What's that about £3,600 per year, £300 per month which is nothing.

Don't worry about things.

Reply 9

Original post by cashmoneyorg
The courses w/ placements years are 4 years, does this mean I will pay 4x 9k ?


It will be 4 years yes but the placement year should cost you considerably less than a normal year because they arent teaching you anything. The cost will vary by uni so contact them to find out how much the placement year will cost. Dont bother with a placement if they are going to charge you 9k when your not even at the uni for a year.

For me my tuition fees are £3,250 for a normal year and my placement year cost £800. So a wild guess for you is £9k for normal years and £2250 for the placement year.
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Reply 10

Original post by DenmansDinner
Yes.

But when you graduate then get yourself into a £27,000 P/A job think how long it's going to take you to pay back, in yearly installments over 10 years?

What's that about £3,600 per year, £300 per month which is nothing.


Don't worry about things.


That's actually quite a lot. The £300 pcm could go towards rent, or into a housing deposit or pension. Also, the number of £27k graduate jobs are few and far between as well as absurdly competitive. I know you have to be earning £21k+ before you start paying back and I think there are certain bands or percentages to be paid depending on your actual income, but either way, it's hardly pocket change being frittered away into a charity tin. I suppose you've got a choice: earn <£21k and find yourself financially suffering, or earn >=£21k and be hit with loan repayments. Pick your poison.

It's a lot of money which would be better put to other purposes given that most would agree that the number of degrees which are actually worth £9k a year is pretty low.
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Reply 11

Original post by rjm101
It will be 4 years yes but the placement year should cost you considerably less than a normal year because they arent teaching you anything. The cost will vary by uni so contact them to find out how much the placement year will cost. Dont bother with a placement if they are going to charge you 9k when your not even at the uni for a year.

For me my tuition fees are £3,250 for a normal year and my placement year cost £800. So a wild guess for you is £9k for normal years and £2250 for the placement year.


Thanks, I'll give 'em all a call tomorrow.
Also, do the students who picked a placement year go to the same lectures as the students that didn't? you all learn the same stuff right?

Reply 12

Original post by cashmoneyorg
Thanks, I'll give 'em all a call tomorrow.
Also, do the students who picked a placement year go to the same lectures as the students that didn't? you all learn the same stuff right?


Yes you learn the same modules after your placement year. At my uni they call it level 1,2 and 3 and after level 2 you can do a placement year. Once you finish the placement year you go to level 3. People who didnt do one go straight to level 3 but dont have the experiance and skillset under them that would help them out for the final year project.
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Reply 13

Original post by rjm101
Yes you learn the same modules after your placement year. At my uni they call it level 1,2 and 3 and after level 2 you can do a placement year. Once you finish the placement year you go to level 3. People who didnt do one go straight to level 3 but dont have the experiance and skillset under them that would help them out for the final year project.


Do you end up doing Level 3 with the Students who started the programme a year later than you?

Reply 14

Original post by cashmoneyorg
Do you end up doing Level 3 with the Students who started the programme a year later than you?


Yes so there is a bit of a mix at level 3 but this was expected anyway since my level 3 modules are open to people doing other degrees. About 75% of the students went on placement so I didnt return to a bunch of students I didnt know.

Reply 15

Original post by rjm101
Yes so there is a bit of a mix at level 3 but this was expected anyway since my level 3 modules are open to people doing other degrees. About 75% of the students went on placement so I didnt return to a bunch of students I didnt know.


Thats cool . Thanks, now I understand what it's all about.

Reply 16

Original post by rjm101
It will be 4 years yes but the placement year should cost you considerably less than a normal year because they arent teaching you anything. The cost will vary by uni so contact them to find out how much the placement year will cost. Dont bother with a placement if they are going to charge you 9k when your not even at the uni for a year.

For me my tuition fees are £3,250 for a normal year and my placement year cost £800. So a wild guess for you is £9k for normal years and £2250 for the placement year.


Can placement years be abroad i.e USA?

Reply 17

Original post by cashmoneyorg
Can placement years be abroad i.e USA?


Yep it can be anywhere you like :smile:

Reply 18

How is it funded, are you paid a salary, or do you continue to receive student loans etc. What happens to funding if you decide to go abroad for the placement year?

Reply 19

Original post by Soule
How is it funded, are you paid a salary, or do you continue to receive student loans etc. What happens to funding if you decide to go abroad for the placement year?


As your still classed as a student you can apply for a maintenence loan that year and tuition fees will be covered by stdent finance. I didnt apply for maintenane loan that year as I knew I'd get by with generous expenses they agreed to give me. Most of the students on placement were paid placements but depending on the demand for your skillset in the industry this might be different. I cant imagine students wanting to be in the fashion of film industry finding it easy to get a paid placement. As far as I know that year no one did placements abroad but in the past people have done this but I'd think youd have to have some savings saved up to pay for the longer distance travel etc as it wont be coming from anywhere else unless your placement company is willing to pay for those things.