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Which is the best country to go to University in?
I live in England but am considering not going to University now due to the increase in tuition fees in the UK.
I researched about studying in the USA but found they they have even higher fees than us so that rules out there too (even though I would have loved to have studies there).
What is the best English speaking country to study in, in terms of quality of teaching, usefulness and international recognition of courses and fees?
I researched about studying in the USA but found they they have even higher fees than us so that rules out there too (even though I would have loved to have studies there).
What is the best English speaking country to study in, in terms of quality of teaching, usefulness and international recognition of courses and fees?
Reply 1
Not all Uni's are putting their fees up in England... don't completely rule that out 
Reply 2
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The United Kingdom (Scotland in particular) and the United States 
Would you consider English language degrees in EU countries other than the UK (and Republic of Ireland)?
I would love to study in Australia or Canada, and I am considering a couple of postgrad degrees in Australia, but you'll find that, just as the UK, fees will be even higher than the UK.
Before completely dismissing the UK I suggest you research the free rises and try and estimate how much you'll pay in the UK first (as you won't necessarily be "paying" 9k a year in the UK).
Would you consider English language degrees in EU countries other than the UK (and Republic of Ireland)?
I would love to study in Australia or Canada, and I am considering a couple of postgrad degrees in Australia, but you'll find that, just as the UK, fees will be even higher than the UK.
Before completely dismissing the UK I suggest you research the free rises and try and estimate how much you'll pay in the UK first (as you won't necessarily be "paying" 9k a year in the UK).
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Reply 3
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Original post by proud nd luvin it
Not all Uni's are putting their fees up in England... don't completely rule that out
I thought it was obligatory to have 6k-9k fees now?
Reply 4
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Original post by James4d
I thought it was obligatory to have 6k-9k fees now?
Yeah - but the fees loan is incredibly soft... so don't just look at the headline figure.
Reply 5
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I'd say that the UK is the best place to study for an undergraduate degree.
You should really consider going - the increase in fees means that you will pay nothing up front at all - it will be paid in the form of a government loan, and you will only start paying it back after you earn £21,000. If you don't pay it back after 30 years, your debt is cleared. So essentially, you pay nothing for the degree, then pay a 9% tax on all earnings above £21,000 until the amount paid back is equal to the amount of the fees (so probably £27,000) and a bit of interest.
You should really consider going - the increase in fees means that you will pay nothing up front at all - it will be paid in the form of a government loan, and you will only start paying it back after you earn £21,000. If you don't pay it back after 30 years, your debt is cleared. So essentially, you pay nothing for the degree, then pay a 9% tax on all earnings above £21,000 until the amount paid back is equal to the amount of the fees (so probably £27,000) and a bit of interest.
Reply 6
What factors are you including 'best' to consist of exactly? The US tuition fees are astronomical but the quality of education is first class.
If you're looking for cheapest then your best bet is probably universities in Scotland.
If you're looking for cheapest then your best bet is probably universities in Scotland.
Reply 7
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Original post by <±Lois±>
What factors are you including 'best' to consist of exactly? The US tuition fees are astronomical but the quality of education is first class.
If you're looking for cheapest then your best bet is probably universities in Scotland.
If you're looking for cheapest then your best bet is probably universities in Scotland.
If you live in England, then Scotland is definately not the cheapest, for Scottish residents yes but for everyone else in the UK no. England residents get hit with 9K fees each year for up to 4 years (some Scottish universities waive the fourth year fees but not all).
US tutition fees are high if you don't qualify for busary are high. But if you do the fees can be comparable to the UK or even for the lucky few free. But factor in travel, visas and the need for post graduate study if you want to specialise.
Studying within Europe, the Netherlands and Germany offer no/low fees, courses in English. Maasricht gets a lot of coverage. The opportunity to learn a second language in the native country can be an advantage.
The OP's criteria for best should include:
1. Offers the right course at right level for me
2. Where I can afford to live
3. Where the fee structure and availability of loans is viable for me.
4. Is the course recognised by potential future employers or subsequent study
Whilst studying in Europe may be appealing from the final cost stand point, unless you can afford to pay any upfront costs it may not be. The general rule of thumb, if you study outside the UK you do not get access to UK Student finance. Within the EU you pay whatever the local students do for fees, but you probably will not qualify for maintenance loans.
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Reply 8
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Original post by <±Lois±>
What factors are you including 'best' to consist of exactly? The US tuition fees are astronomical but the quality of education is first class.
Realistically if you have a reasonable chance of getting into a top American university then youre also going to be a strong candidate for oxbridge/imperial/LSE/etc, and the fees there are substantially cheaper.
Reply 9
I would suggest Singapore. NUS and NTU are among the top 50 universities with NUS being in top 10. Singapore national language is English and the universities are very recognized.
Reply 10
A lot of British students consider the Netherlands - some universities have courses that are taught in English. Some also consider France. I don't know how different the fees will be though.
Reply 11
Original post by RP-MRU.
A lot of British students consider the Netherlands - some universities have courses that are taught in English. Some also consider France. I don't know how different the fees will be though.
Very.
For EU students, tuition fees at the colleges there are something in the order of 1700 euros.
In France, there are no tuition fees. (some admin fees and other stuff have to be paid for, though, which amounts to ~500 euros)
If you have good A-Level grades and SAT scores, you might want to look into Jacobs University, Bremen.
Reply 12
Original post by Lilium
Original post by Lilium
Very.
For EU students, tuition fees at the colleges there are something in the order of 1700 euros.
In France, there are no tuition fees. (some admin fees and other stuff have to be paid for, though, which amounts to ~500 euros)
If you have good A-Level grades and SAT scores, you might want to look into Jacobs University, Bremen.
For EU students, tuition fees at the colleges there are something in the order of 1700 euros.
In France, there are no tuition fees. (some admin fees and other stuff have to be paid for, though, which amounts to ~500 euros)
If you have good A-Level grades and SAT scores, you might want to look into Jacobs University, Bremen.
1700 Euros is really what I'd regard as a gift. But I guess the quality of the degree won't be the same as it would be in the UK.
Reply 13
United States!
I'm infatuated with UC Berkely after watching their lectures on YouTube.
I'm infatuated with UC Berkely after watching their lectures on YouTube.
Reply 14
The only two other English speaking countries which might be of interest to you are Malta and Éire. Both are within the EU. Éire's fees are cheaper than the UK and Malta has zero fees.
Reply 15
Original post by Id and Ego seek
Original post by Id and Ego seek
United States!
I'm infatuated with UC Berkely after watching their lectures on YouTube.
I'm infatuated with UC Berkely after watching their lectures on YouTube.
But the fees there are truly ridiculous.
Reply 16
Original post by RP-MRU.
1700 Euros is really what I'd regard as a gift. But I guess the quality of the degree won't be the same as it would be in the UK.
Not necessarily so. And that goes for anywhere in the world.
If I could choose between doing a Mathematics degree at the Chennai Mathematical Institute or Kingston, I wouldn't think twice before going for CMI. Despite it being in...well, Chennai. It has a mathematics program which is comparable to the best ones in the world. For all you know, X College in the Netherlands could be particularly strong in a field you're interested in. It's a long shot but still.
At any rate, I don't think the situation is as bad as you think. In other European countries (more specifically: France, Germany and the Netherlands as well, if I'm not mistaken), the quality of education from one uni to the next is very much on the same level, which is very much unlike in the UK.
Reply 17
Kingston!!!!
Reply 18
Original post by Lilium
Original post by Lilium
Not necessarily so. And that goes for anywhere in the world.
If I could choose between doing a Mathematics degree at the Chennai Mathematical Institute or Kingston, I wouldn't think twice before going for CMI. Despite it being in...well, Chennai. It has a mathematics program which is comparable to the best ones in the world. For all you know, X College in the Netherlands could be particularly strong in a field you're interested in. It's a long shot but still.
At any rate, I don't think the situation is as bad as you think. In other European countries (more specifically: France, Germany and the Netherlands as well, if I'm not mistaken), the quality of education from one uni to the next is very much on the same level, which is very much unlike in the UK.
If I could choose between doing a Mathematics degree at the Chennai Mathematical Institute or Kingston, I wouldn't think twice before going for CMI. Despite it being in...well, Chennai. It has a mathematics program which is comparable to the best ones in the world. For all you know, X College in the Netherlands could be particularly strong in a field you're interested in. It's a long shot but still.
At any rate, I don't think the situation is as bad as you think. In other European countries (more specifically: France, Germany and the Netherlands as well, if I'm not mistaken), the quality of education from one uni to the next is very much on the same level, which is very much unlike in the UK.
I wasn't discrediting the education available in the Netherlands, I was merely suggesting that the degree would be different to what it would be in the UK and in some cases you may even need to do additional qualifications to practice in the UK; i.e. Medicine etc....
Reply 19
Original post by RP-MRU.
I wasn't discrediting the education available in the Netherlands, I was merely suggesting that the degree would be different to what it would be in the UK and in some cases you may even need to do additional qualifications to practice in the UK; i.e. Medicine etc....
Fair enough. Not that I particularly want to be pedantic but your use of the word "quality" is what initiated the response.
True, one might need other qualifications for certain courses. (law, as well, perhaps) But that's not an area I'm well versed in, so, I'll refrain from any further comments.
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