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emigrating to australia after uni

Hello everyone,
I am considering settling in Australia after I finish uni (I mean after postgrad). I would like to know how difficult it would be for me to get a job if I got an IR/political science Master from the UK? I have not yet finished my undergrad studies (a few more months to go), but I really want to discover Australia (my impression is that it is friendly and more informal than here). However, the critical skills right now are more science/healthcare etc, not really my area of specialty. So, would it be too risky? Should I consider settling in another country once my financial position becomes more 'stable'????
Thanks a lot :smile:

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Reply 1

it's too hard to go there

Reply 2

Original post by Horsedobbin
it's too hard to go there


really? In what ways?

Reply 3

probably quite unlikely because that sort of degree is not in demand. they are after things like doctors, engineers and so on - best bet is to marry somebody with the critical skills or marry an Aussie. If you manage to secure a job with an Australian company then I believe that they do allow people entry. Australia isn't like the United Kingdom - they are very selective with whom is allowed to move to the country.

I don't know why you think Australia would allow you to just settle, the only way you would be doing that is as an illegal immigrant.

Reply 4

Original post by Space Needle
probably quite unlikely because that sort of degree is not in demand. they are after things like doctors, engineers and so on - best bet is to marry somebody with the critical skills or marry an Aussie. If you manage to secure a job with an Australian company then I believe that they do allow people entry. Australia isn't like the United Kingdom - they are very selective with whom is allowed to move to the country.

I don't know why you think Australia would allow you to just settle, the only way you would be doing that is as an illegal immigrant.


even if I do something unrelated to it? I was not thinking of getting into politics or doing something related to IR (I wanted to do an MA in history, but I thought IR would make it appear more relevant and useful). So the only people who are allowed in are those in 'traditional' jobs? That's a pity!


I did not mean to just settle, but to work there.

Reply 5

Original post by itzme
even if I do something unrelated to it? I was not thinking of getting into politics or doing something related to IR (I wanted to do an MA in history, but I thought IR would make it appear more relevant and useful). So the only people who are allowed in are those in 'traditional' jobs? That's a pity!


I did not mean to just settle, but to work there.


Yeah, but you will have to secure a job post prior to arriving to be granted a working visa.

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/visa-temporary.htm

As I said, entry to Australia is very strict.

Reply 6

Original post by itzme
Hello everyone,
I am considering settling in Australia after I finish uni (I mean after postgrad). I would like to know how difficult it would be for me to get a job if I got an IR/political science Master from the UK? I have not yet finished my undergrad studies (a few more months to go), but I really want to discover Australia (my impression is that it is friendly and more informal than here). However, the critical skills right now are more science/healthcare etc, not really my area of specialty. So, would it be too risky? Should I consider settling in another country once my financial position becomes more 'stable'????
Thanks a lot :smile:


On what basis would you apply for Permanent Residence? I don't think there's a call for recent graduates with degrees in political science.

Reply 7

Original post by Space Needle
Yeah, but you will have to secure a job post prior to arriving to be granted a working visa.

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/visa-temporary.htm

As I said, entry to Australia is very strict.


Or you could simply apply for permanent residence which would probably take 2 years to get, if indeed you qualify.

Reply 8

Original post by Howard
Or you could simply apply for permanent residence which would probably take 2 years to get, if indeed you qualify.



I will try to contact the immigration office and see...
Suddenly I feel like my degree is worthless.

Reply 9

Original post by itzme
I will try to contact the immigration office and see...
Suddenly I feel like my degree is worthless.


Just do it online. Check whether you have enough points to qualify.

If you're worried about your degree then instead of doing a masters degree in politics do a PGCE or something and become a teacher. Get a couple of years experience in the UK and you'd be welcome in Oz with open arms.

I have a lot of experience with this sort of thing. I emigrated to the US on a work visa, then got a Green Card, and eventually took citizenship. Later, I jumped through the hoops to secure an Aussie work permit and did a stint out there. More recently I secured permanent residence status in Canada where I now live.

So I've got a pretty good idea about these country's immigration processes. Skilled workers that are in demand (and that doesn't necessarily mean white collar professionals "doctors and lawyers, accountants etc" - bricklayers are very much in demand in Canada, and I have two friends, one a hairdresser and the other a motor mechanic who both went to Australia) are going to have a much easier time getting in that someone with a "fluffy" masters degree but no concrete skills to offer.

Reply 10

I've been looking into this for a couple of years now and I'm not sure if it's the same with Australia (check) but I want to emigrate to Canada and in order to do that I need to either meet their points score/have the kind of profession they require (which I don't) or have lived and worked there for at least 2 years. So I researched the 2nd option - how can I work there for 2 years if I can't get in?! I found a scheme through Googling called 'Bunac' - I'm sure there must be others too. But anyway, with that scheme I can live and work in Canada for 2 years, after that I can apply for citizenship. That may be the simplest way to do it with Oz too - just do some Googling. It's quite expensive though so I plan to work in the UK for a few years after uni first.

Reply 11

Original post by somethingbeautiful
I've been looking into this for a couple of years now and I'm not sure if it's the same with Australia (check) but I want to emigrate to Canada and in order to do that I need to either meet their points score/have the kind of profession they require (which I don't) or have lived and worked there for at least 2 years. So I researched the 2nd option - how can I work there for 2 years if I can't get in?! I found a scheme through Googling called 'Bunac' - I'm sure there must be others too. But anyway, with that scheme I can live and work in Canada for 2 years, after that I can apply for citizenship. That may be the simplest way to do it with Oz too - just do some Googling. It's quite expensive though so I plan to work in the UK for a few years after uni first.


Take it from me; you cannot apply for Canadian citizenship after two years.

To apply for Canadian citizenship you need to be a Permanent Resident for at least three years and show that you have spent at least 1095 days out of the last 5 years living in Canada.

Reply 12

Political Science is not a really big area in Australia, generally you will find politics as a whole is very socially unacceptable - the police have to force people to vote in elections, and as such there is very little from you to get from it. As one of the above posters mentioned becoming a teacher is one field that would help you get there although you would require some experience in the United Kingdom and teaching politics would not really be an option as again its not very popular and most educational qualifications do not have a 'Politics' course like in the United Kingdom. The closest you would get is a History/Geography teacher (In Australia, well at least NSW, the two subjects are merged) which covers subjects like 'economics' but that would require doing a lot of bridging courses as the main material is about Australia - e.g. legal issues regarding Aboriginals which you would have to learn first.

Overall I would say that a Masters Degree in Political Science is not really useful in Australia, the one area I could think of (off the top of my head) that it could help you with is if you tried to get a job with one of the big multinational charities that cover issues such as Asylum Seeker rights and advising the Australian Gov't, I know they sometimes try to bring people in from abroad to do work with them. That could give you the opportunity to travel around within Australia and see what things are like.

If you can get a job and get sponsored for permanent residency its a pretty good deal though in the end as you have free movement between New Zealand and some of the Pacific states as well, like in the EU, which could be your thing if your looking to explore.

Reply 13

Australia have great rules on immigration... If they dont need/want you, they put you on the first boat back home :rofl:

Reply 14

If you're a UK citizen, I'll marry you and we can swap places :tongue:.

Reply 15

Original post by SunderX

Original post by SunderX
If you're a UK citizen, I'll marry you and we can swap places :tongue:.


I'll take you up on that offer if itzme doesn't :tongue:

In all fairness though, how about going out there on a working holiday visa to check that you actually like the country first? There are no significant barriers to anyone getting a WHV, and you can stay out there for 1 year (2 if you do 3 months of farm work in your first year).

Reply 16

As people have said, save like mad and get a working holiday visa. Go over there and get some odd job work through the hostels and have a good time. See if you like the country by getting about a bit.

How Australia is shown in the media shouldn't be the back bone on wanting to be there IMO.

Also thing about any pets/family/friends etc you'll be living behind!

Reply 17

Another whitey leaves Blighty.

Not a constructive post whatsoever but I just thought this up and wanted to spurt it out to the internet because I can.

I'll leave now.
(edited 13 years ago)

Reply 18

Original post by Space Needle
probably quite unlikely because that sort of degree is not in demand. they are after things like doctors, engineers and so on - best bet is to marry somebody with the critical skills or marry an Aussie. If you manage to secure a job with an Australian company then I believe that they do allow people entry. Australia isn't like the United Kingdom - they are very selective with whom is allowed to move to the country.

I don't know why you think Australia would allow you to just settle, the only way you would be doing that is as an illegal immigrant.


Not entirely true, there are all kinds of skills Australia are after when it comes to jobs. Jobs could range from Cooks to Welders. Saying permanent residency is only open to doctors and what not is just a way of putting people off into emigrating to other countries and fulfilling their ambitions.

Reply 19

Original post by Origami Bullets

Original post by Origami Bullets
I'll take you up on that offer if itzme doesn't :tongue:

In all fairness though, how about going out there on a working holiday visa to check that you actually like the country first? There are no significant barriers to anyone getting a WHV, and you can stay out there for 1 year (2 if you do 3 months of farm work in your first year).


I'm here on a Post-Study Visa at the moment, hopefully soon to become a Tier 2. I'm pretty sure than in the time it takes to settle, the Tories will have jiggled with the immigration requirements again, so realistically the only way of staying in the UK long-term is marrying an EU national :tongue:.

What makes you want to get to Aussieland?

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