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I am in my first year of Mechanical Engineering at Imperial College London and after the first term I'm really beginning to wonder whether this is for me. I went in to university with the idea of having a good social life, and I'm used to having a good close group of friends back home that I do a lot with, and despite imperials reputation of being antisocial I still had my hopes with it being in the capital and all.

Needless to say I've not had the best first term. Freshers week was very disappointing and since being here I've only made one friend who I have really clicked with and got on well with, and he's just told me he has decided it's not for him and he is going to reapply to manchester and bristol where when visiting people there his gut told him he belonged there. I feel as if I don't fit the imperial mould and the whole place is becoming very suffocating, with the lack of girls, emphasis on such hard work twinned with meeting no real good friends who I can relate with, and thus any idea who I could live with in the second year. I have made efforts through clubs and societies to meet people but it seems people generally have made groups of friends in their halls who they will live with next year, and I've been unfortunate in that in mine there is no one I really relate with , everyone just keeps to themselves and is there purely to work.


What I am considering as an option is to send off a UCAS application to start Mech eng next year at Manchester, Newcastle and Liverpool, where I got offers from last year. I have visited friends there and got a much better feeling generally about the university and my gut told me it was where I belonged, the prestige of Imperial just swayed me. My grades were A* maths, A* economics, A physics and an A in further maths AS so I shouldnt have a problem getting an offer.

My question is can I send the application as a safety net, so if the situation at imperial doesn't improve I can start a fresh somewhere I feel I will fit in and actually enjoy my time, but on the other hand if the situation at imperial improves and I decide to stay just reject the offer. Will the other universities accept a drop out/will imperial know about me applying elsewhere? Can I still use the reference from my previous UCAS form or do I need a new one and does my personal statement need to explain my reasons for dropping out?
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My question is can I send the application as a safety net, so if the situation at imperial doesn't improve I can start a fresh somewhere I feel I will fit in and actually enjoy my time, but on the other hand if the situation at imperial improves and I decide to stay just reject the offer.
Yes.

Will the other universities accept a drop out/will imperial know about me applying elsewhere?
We don't know exactly, but plenty of 'drop outs' do get offers on reapplication so it doesn't seem to be a factor. No, they won't know unless you use someone there as referee.

Can I still use the reference from my previous UCAS form or do I need a new one and does my personal statement need to explain my reasons for dropping out?
You'll need a new reference, but it can be from the same referee. No, you don't need to discuss your reasons for not staying at Imperial.
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Mechanical Engineering is often a hard subject, at any decent university. (Thus dropping out of Imperial wouldn't necessarily mean: more free time and a better social life.)

But universities without this "prestige"-thing can feel much more comfortable, indeed.
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Mechanical Engineering is often a hard subject, at any decent university. (Thus dropping out of Imperial wouldn't necessarily mean: more free time and a better social life.)

But universities without this "prestige"-thing can feel much more comfortable, indeed.
Having your one good friend leave can be disheartening as well. I was in the same situation - made one good friend on my course in year one, he didn't return for year two. It makes it feel very awkward at times.
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It's not the fact the course is hard, I expected/can deal with that and I'm willing to put the work in, it's that I feel I would fit in at a 'normal' university that isn't just science and engineering and would be more likely to meet people I would fit in with.
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Or is there a possibility that I could complete first year at imperial and then transfer onto the 2nd year at a different university?
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Or is there a possibility that I could complete first year at imperial and then transfer onto the 2nd year at a different university?
It's possible, but would depend upon the university you'd like to transfer to - contact them to ask more about it.
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Or is there a possibility that I could complete first year at imperial and then transfer onto the 2nd year at a different university?
This is a possibility, Imperials courses are well respected by any other Engineering faculties in the country - you need to find the universities compatible with your Imperial course, which shouldn't be too hard. It saves you from wasting 1st year par se.
I'm applying to other universities whilst sticking out first year at my current one, and deciding if I want to go somewhere else in May. I'm going to be doing Computer Science - it depends on if the situation improves, so I can completely relate to your situation.
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If I was to apply to the second year would it have to be in by the same 15th January deadline as normal UCAS applications?
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If I was to apply to the second year would it have to be in by the same 15th January deadline as normal UCAS applications?
Yes, select for second year entry on the ucas form and phone up the universities you want to apply for for your course and tell them if it's possible you can get an offer - obv research course compatibility, and you'll also need a reference from Imperial (but I think this can be left to later?)
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It's not the fact the course is hard, I expected/can deal with that and I'm willing to put the work in, it's that I feel I would fit in at a 'normal' university that isn't just science and engineering and would be more likely to meet people I would fit in with.
Are you sure engineering is for you? Don't feel offended, but if you don't feel the engineering environment is for you, than it may be more than just the university.

From my experience the "friend question" can vary really much from year to year. (That was my case.) It is not really bound to the university or course.

PS.: I think it is a good idea to leave, if you feel down, but you should do it for the right reasons and consider all arguments. It is only December, so reapplying or not, give it some time and don't regard your situation as "frozen".
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Are you sure engineering is for you? Don't feel offended, but if you don't feel the engineering environment is for you, than it may be more than just the university.

From my experience the "friend question" can vary really much from year to year. (That was my case.) It is not really bound to the university or course.

PS.: I think it is a good idea to leave, if you feel down, but you should do it for the right reasons and consider all arguments. It is only December, so reapplying or not, give it some time and don't regard your situation as "frozen".

It's not the engineering environment, its the stereotyped feel of imperial being that it is, as a majority, just people there for all work and no play. I have friends studying engineering at loughborough, sheffield, manchester, liverpool etc. and all seem to juggle a good social life with doing the work as well. I have been unlucky in who I have been put with in halls and it does kill me to give up a place at such a prestigous institution but I just feel that there is more to being a student than purely studying.
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I am in my first year of Mechanical Engineering at Imperial College London and after the first term I'm really beginning to wonder whether this is for me. I went in to university with the idea of having a good social life, and I'm used to having a good close group of friends back home that I do a lot with, and despite imperials reputation of being antisocial I still had my hopes with it being in the capital and all.

Needless to say I've not had the best first term. Freshers week was very disappointing and since being here I've only made one friend who I have really clicked with and got on well with, and he's just told me he has decided it's not for him and he is going to reapply to manchester and bristol where when visiting people there his gut told him he belonged there. I feel as if I don't fit the imperial mould and the whole place is becoming very suffocating, with the lack of girls, emphasis on such hard work twinned with meeting no real good friends who I can relate with, and thus any idea who I could live with in the second year. I have made efforts through clubs and societies to meet people but it seems people generally have made groups of friends in their halls who they will live with next year, and I've been unfortunate in that in mine there is no one I really relate with , everyone just keeps to themselves and is there purely to work.


What I am considering as an option is to send off a UCAS application to start Mech eng next year at Manchester, Newcastle and Liverpool, where I got offers from last year. I have visited friends there and got a much better feeling generally about the university and my gut told me it was where I belonged, the prestige of Imperial just swayed me. My grades were A* maths, A* economics, A physics and an A in further maths AS so I shouldnt have a problem getting an offer.

My question is can I send the application as a safety net, so if the situation at imperial doesn't improve I can start a fresh somewhere I feel I will fit in and actually enjoy my time, but on the other hand if the situation at imperial improves and I decide to stay just reject the offer. Will the other universities accept a drop out/will imperial know about me applying elsewhere? Can I still use the reference from my previous UCAS form or do I need a new one and does my personal statement need to explain my reasons for dropping out?
Why don't you just transfer for the 2nd year?
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I am in my first year of Mechanical Engineering at Imperial College London and after the first term I'm really beginning to wonder whether this is for me. I went in to university with the idea of having a good social life, and I'm used to having a good close group of friends back home that I do a lot with, and despite imperials reputation of being antisocial I still had my hopes with it being in the capital and all.

Needless to say I've not had the best first term. Freshers week was very disappointing and since being here I've only made one friend who I have really clicked with and got on well with, and he's just told me he has decided it's not for him and he is going to reapply to manchester and bristol where when visiting people there his gut told him he belonged there. I feel as if I don't fit the imperial mould and the whole place is becoming very suffocating, with the lack of girls, emphasis on such hard work twinned with meeting no real good friends who I can relate with, and thus any idea who I could live with in the second year. I have made efforts through clubs and societies to meet people but it seems people generally have made groups of friends in their halls who they will live with next year, and I've been unfortunate in that in mine there is no one I really relate with , everyone just keeps to themselves and is there purely to work.


What I am considering as an option is to send off a UCAS application to start Mech eng next year at Manchester, Newcastle and Liverpool, where I got offers from last year. I have visited friends there and got a much better feeling generally about the university and my gut told me it was where I belonged, the prestige of Imperial just swayed me. My grades were A* maths, A* economics, A physics and an A in further maths AS so I shouldnt have a problem getting an offer.

My question is can I send the application as a safety net, so if the situation at imperial doesn't improve I can start a fresh somewhere I feel I will fit in and actually enjoy my time, but on the other hand if the situation at imperial improves and I decide to stay just reject the offer. Will the other universities accept a drop out/will imperial know about me applying elsewhere? Can I still use the reference from my previous UCAS form or do I need a new one and does my personal statement need to explain my reasons for dropping out?
How many girls are there?
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It's not the engineering environment, its the stereotyped feel of imperial being that it is, as a majority, just people there for all work and no play. I have friends studying engineering at loughborough, sheffield, manchester, liverpool etc. and all seem to juggle a good social life with doing the work as well. I have been unlucky in who I have been put with in halls and it does kill me to give up a place at such a prestigous institution but I just feel that there is more to being a student than purely studying.
Hm, but as I said: Sadly that can happen at any University and December is much too early to take the decision, which of your friends pulled the lucky card. So you should take a close look at the timetables, possibilities (research topics, industrial links, societies, sport, music, specialisations,...) and actual (!) workload at other universities.

The thing what I meant is: Engineering has a low percentage of girls and is a lot of work, that won't change, because you will study at the Engineering department at any university.

(Nonetheless, as long as you don't have to drop out, it doesn't hurt to reapply.)
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Hm, but as I said: Sadly that can happen at any University and December is much too early to take the decision, which of your friends pulled the lucky card. So you should take a close look at the timetables, possibilities (research topics, industrial links, societies, sport, music, specialisations,...) and actual (!) workload at other universities.

The thing what I meant is: Engineering has a low percentage of girls and is a lot of work, that won't change, because you will study at the Engineering department at any university.

(Nonetheless, as long as you don't have to drop out, it doesn't hurt to reapply.)

Yeah that's what I've decided to do, I've contacted other universities and I'm going to try to reapply through UCAS onto the second year, and then see how the next two terms go and if despite best efforts I still feel it's not for me I'll transfer elsewhere.
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I've just joined uni thru clearing and hate my course!!! Any advice on reapplying and doing my original course would be great. P.s I have the grades for the course I wanna do at most places
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I've just joined uni thru clearing and hate my course!!! Any advice on reapplying and doing my original course would be great. P.s I have the grades for the course I wanna do at most places
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