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Is there a big difference in the education system and is one better than the other . I'm hesitating between Durham,King's and st Andrews.Most people think that Scotland is way out of the way and not to good for a job in England. The course seems better at Durham but I prefer ST Andrews environment. What would be your advice???
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(Original post by Nissa)
Is there a big difference in the education system and is one better than the other . I'm hesitating between Durham,King's and st Andrews.Most people think that Scotland is way out of the way and not to good for a job in England. The course seems better at Durham but I prefer ST Andrews environment. What would be your advice???
Inportant is that it takes one year longer in Scotland!
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Inportant is that it takes one year longer in Scotland!
but I thought u could enter on second year if u had good enough grades at A-LEvel?
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Inportant is that it takes one year longer in Scotland!
Why is this I have never understood it? Is it because its a masters in Scotland?
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Why is this I have never understood it? Is it because its a masters in Scotland?
no, as far as I can work out its claimed by universities that the extra year is necessary because of the difference between the `5' scottish Highers and the 3 `A' levels. Thats why some students that have done A-levels can choose to enter in the 2nd year of a scottish degree if they're good enough (i think but not for all degrees)
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no, as far as I can work out its claimed by universities that the extra year is necessary because of the difference between the `5' scottish Highers and the 3 `A' levels. Thats why some students that have done A-levels can choose to enter in the 2nd year of a scottish degree if they're good enough (i think but not for all degrees)
So scottish highers are easier than A levels? :confused:
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So scottish highers are easier than A levels? :confused:
apparently so *waits to be corrected*
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I would never have thought that, it just goes to show that the A level i still a better standard than a lot of qualifcations out there despite a load of peoples efforts to belittle it.
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It's usually said that the A2 is still the most rigorous exam in the world bar the IB.
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That is what I would have thought until coming on here, if it is still the case which I am sure it is then surely the increasing pass rates are just due to different teachimg methods, better resources better standard of living etc.
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I've done highers and I think that they are easier than A levels but more difficult than AS levels. But in Scotland we also have Advanced Highers which are probably about as hard as A levels. And yes, it is possible to go into 2nd year for some courses with Advanced Highers or A levels.
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I've done highers and I think that they are easier than A levels but more difficult than AS levels. But in Scotland we also have Advanced Highers which are probably about as hard as A levels. And yes, it is possible to go into 2nd year for some courses with Advanced Highers or A levels.
at st andrews you can only go into the second year if you are taking science subjects.
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So scottish highers are easier than A levels? :confused:
easiest way to put it is Highers are the scottish version of AS and Advanced Highers are equivalent to A2.

These days most people do 5 highers in one year. It's alot of work and is as hard or even as 3 A2 levels but not as in depth. So someone with AAAAA at higher is about as able as someone with AAA at a level but lacks the same depth of knowledge.

I say highers are maybe even harder because you have too do well in a range of different subjects - you're expected to take english, mathematics and sciences and social sciences. At A level people can just choose 3 subjects which use roughly the same skills.

The good thing about highers is u can get unconditionals from all scottish unis with them and quite a fair few english ones.
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It's usually said that the A2 is still the most rigorous exam in the world bar the IB.
Not true, the french baccalaureate is supposed to be the most difficult in Europe cos there are so many subjects.
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I was faced with the Scotland vs. England conundrum when I was trying to decide about universities. I asked around among Scottish friends (and friends at university in Scotland) and decided that Scottish universities were not for me.

The first two years in a Scottish degree are more relaxed than in an English degree. To some extent you get to pick and mix the subjects you want to do, no matter what your degree course is. It's basically a longer introduction to university life and consequently you get a lot of dossers, who are gradually filtered out over the first two years. No good for me, as I wanted to get as far away from school life as possible and go somewhere where everyone cared about the subject they were doing.

This is just based on what I've picked up from various people: please correct me if I'm wrong
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I was faced with the Scotland vs. England conundrum when I was trying to decide about universities. I asked around among Scottish friends (and friends at university in Scotland) and decided that Scottish universities were not for me.

The first two years in a Scottish degree are more relaxed than in an English degree. To some extent you get to pick and mix the subjects you want to do, no matter what your degree course is. It's basically a longer introduction to university life and consequently you get a lot of dossers, who are gradually filtered out over the first two years. No good for me, as I wanted to get as far away from school life as possible and go somewhere where everyone cared about the subject they were doing.

This is just based on what I've picked up from various people: please correct me if I'm wrong
i guess that depends on which scottish uni you go to. st andrews is suppost to have quite a hefty workload in the first 2 years with 6 exams plus approx. 12 X 2000 word essays each year. i guess a lot of it also depends on the entry requirements, most courses need round about ABB/AAB so i don't doubt the people that get in arean't willing to work hard.
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Wow! I didn't realise there was that much work in the first 2 years at St. A.'s. I don't really mind the hard work cos I'm interested in the subjects I'm gonna be doing. On the other hand it's good to have enough time for socialising too.
Where did u find out that about St. A.'s? Was it in the prospectus?
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The Swiss Maturite isn't a walk in the park either...
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Not true, the french baccalaureate is supposed to be the most difficult in Europe cos there are so many subjects.
But by that logic your GCSEs would be 3x harder than your Alevels. Alevels are hard because they require you to think with clarity, to be somewhat fresh in your ideas (though not as much as say STEP), to be to the point yet discursive and comprehensive. As opposed to just ticking off multiple choice questions, or writing a prestructured essay.
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But by that logic your GCSEs would be 3x harder than your Alevels. Alevels are hard because they require you to think with clarity, to be somewhat fresh in your ideas (though not as much as say STEP), to be to the point yet discursive and comprehensive. As opposed to just ticking off multiple choice questions, or writing a prestructured essay.
The French Bac requires a student to use those skills over a range of different subjects though. I'm not going to try and compare the two though, I don't know enough about either exam.
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