remove rice, pasta, potatoes

thats not entirely true its not EQUAL amounts of the food groups. you need far more bread, rice and pasta than any other food group, then its the fruit and veg group, then the dairy and meat, chicken, fish eggs and nuts, then the smallest is fats and sweets

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Kittennffc

The best diet is one that contains an equal amount of all the food groups; it would be worse just cutting out carbohydrates all together! Just keep things in moderation and you'll be as healthy as possible.

how would it be possible to cut out carbohydrates altogether? equal amounts of each food groups would be wrong too.

in answer to the question yes you can live without rice, pasta and potatoes. but you need a balance.

Reply 4

Dutchess of Doncaster

You can live without.. but why would you want to?? Rice, potatoes and pasta are healthy! If you replace them with veggie you are getting a drastically reduced carb intake...Meals would be boring as hell too!
Cutting out too many carbs (which i think cutting out all three of those would be) can damage your health in the long term as you get most of your energy from the glucose that comes from them. Try reducing dairy intake if you want to get healthier but essentially you need balance.

Reply 5

hugatree

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My mum's friend nearly lives on pasta alone and she's very skinny. I know this is the opposite but it's definitely not healthy, but good if you wonna lose some weight I s'pose.

Reply 6

Kittennffc

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I obviously didn't mean to have like the same amount of sweets and chocolate as you have of a normal dinner, just that you shouldn't cut out food groups.

I know it would be impossible to cut out all carbohydrates, as they form a good part of most dinners, but drastically cutting down is stupid, as it would effectively make your diet the atkins diet.

As long as you eat at least 5 fruit and vegetables a day, and don't go crazy with the chocolates and sweets, and do regular exercise.

Reply 7

Ariel4

Just dont eat to much of them. have wholemeal bread, pasta and rice instead of white. eat more fruit and veg, and dont eat to much fat, you need some fat, just not to much.

Reply 8

34253

Try only eating carbs before noon or something, don't cut them out alltogether. Have a big carb up meal once a week aswell to keep your metabolism high.

Reply 9

MissKathica

Well I have to cut out pasta, because I can't eat wheat or gluten, and I already don't eat meat (out of choice) or sugar (I have diabetes-type problems with sugar highs and lows), and I'm doing fine, because of alternatives i.e. pasta made from rice and potatoes, haha. But it's hard enough to stay away from wheat-flour foods - it's everywhere!

I don't know why anyone would want to cut out those vital starchy carbohydrates unless they were allergic... you CAN get energy from proteins and fruit and vegetables, but I don't think it would be enough. I reckon you'd notice a significant lack in energy, and, in all seriousness, without all that fibrous bulk, much runnier poo. Haha. Ick.

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Phonicsdude

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If you are thinking about losing weight, then eating carbohydrates (found in the goods you name) in the evening is a bad idea.
Best to eat them for breakfast or lunch where their slow sugars can be released throughout the day to give you a sustained source of energy.

You'd be crazy to cut pasta out of your diet anyway..!

Reply 11

Anonymous

can you survive without pasta, rice, potatoes?

you can, and should imo. That old food pyramid **** needs turning upside down. Grains offer no nutritional value past their carb content (the benefits of which is debatable too). The only grains I eat are oats, since im not convinved either way. Certainly not pasta, its junk food imo.

if youre interested, look into the reasoning behind a so-called paleo diet. www.theomnivore.com
http://www.paleodiet.com/
http://www.thepaleodiet.com/

basically it rejects those foods that have only been in our diet since the agricultural revolution, around 10,000 years ago. That includes grains and dairy.

I am VERY skeptical that grains deserve the current reputation they enjoy today. Mainstream advice says to eat shitloads of bread, rice, pasta, etc. At least be aware that there is another view, with real evidence etc

--Joe

#edit for spelling

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rock_eleven

you can, and should imo. That old food pyrimid **** needs turning upside down. Grains offer no nutritional value past their carb content (the benefits of which is debatable too). The only grains I eat are oats, since im not convinved either way. Certainly not pasta, its junk food imo.

if youre interested, look into the reasoning behind a so-called paleo diet. www.theomnivore.com
http://www.paleodiet.com/
http://www.thepaleodiet.com/

basically it rejects those foods that have only been in our diet since the agricultural revolution, around 10,000 years ago. That includes grains and dairy.

I am VERY skeptical that grains deserve the current reputation they enjoy today. Mainstream advice says to eat shitloads of bread, rice, pasta, etc. At least be aware that there is another view, with real evidence etc

--Joe

I, Myself, am more inclined to believe diets that aren't put on shoddy websites.

Reply 13

Elipsis

I, Myself, am more inclined to believe diets that aren't put on shoddy websites.

through which medium would diet advice need to be presented to be credible?

Reply 14

Phonicsdude

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Mainstream advice doesnt tell you to eat lots of carbs. The trend recently has been the complete opposite.
The atkins fad implored its followers to cut out carbs completely.

Eat what you like to eat but eat in moderation.
I think you are the fool if you wont eat spag bol (foos of the Gods) because you are frightened you might not look like Calista Flockhart/whoever.

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rock_eleven

through which medium would diet advice need to be presented to be credible?

Theres stuff that is just basic common sense and has been known for the last 20 years that i trust. Like lower carbs, less saturated fat and good protein like chicken.

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Elipsis

Theres stuff that is just basic common sense and has been known for the last 20 years that i trust. Like lower carbs, less saturated fat and good protein like chicken.

anything that's common sense is so because it has been repeated to us enough times. Its not an inate validity or truth that we are born knowing. Things were once common sense may become laughable ********, due to changing evidence and experiences.

I am not neccessarily taking issue with the three aims you mentioned in that particular post, just the taking of them as "common sense".

And my original question, id be interested to know what medium dietry advice must be presented through to be credible. Must the government endorse it?

Reply 17

Phonicsdude

Mainstream advice doesnt tell you to eat lots of carbs. The trend recently has been the complete opposite.
The atkins fad implored its followers to cut out carbs completely.

yes the Atkins diet is very low carb, and very popular, but I wouldnt call it mainstream at all. Some pro-atkins **** gets into common media, but its still more fashionable to say its crap. Mainstream is the **** that the government tells us like this:

Reply 18

Phonicsdude

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Eating carbohydraes is the most natural thing.
Humans have been doing so for many millenia.
What's your point?

Reply 19

Bis