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Can I get into Wallington, Wilson's or Sutton grammar for boys with these grades?

Hi, I'm applying for several schools for sixth form, however I'm worried if my grades aren't good enough to get into one of the Sutton Grammar Schools. I am planning to do Politics, History and Economics. For my fourth A level I'm not sure whether to do Spanish or Computing!! Wouldn't mind a bit of help on that! But anyway here are my predicted grades. I disagree wholeheartedly with a few of them, which I will point out.

English Lang and Lit : A

Maths: A

R.E.: C, I disagree with this to the point that it makes me angry. I have done one exam, which I got a B on and I intend to retake to bring up to an A, hopefully A* and then get an A/A* on the next paper.

Spanish: A, I also completely and utterly disagree with this. I have done 60% of my Spanish GCSE in the form of four modular exams. My results were: A, A*, A*, A*. How they predicted me an A is BEYOND ME.

Additional Science: B

History: A, I disagree with this one also, but not as much as the other ones. I have done two exams, a source paper and a non-source paper. On the non source paper (usually considered the harder one) I got an A*. On the source paper, I got a B, which I can easily move up to an A*. Talk about pessimistic predictions.

ICT BTEC: Distinction

These are the grades which I most likely will get and I think should be my predicted grades:

A* - History & Spanish

A/A* not really sure - RE

A - English Lang, English Lit, Maths, ICT BTEC Distinction

B - Core Science (2011) Statistics (2010) Additional Science

Do these grammar schools care so much about one's predicted grades that I could possibly not even be considered based on my predicted grades, which I think are underestimated but decent enough to be considered. If I am considered, are the grades above which I will most likely get be good enough to get into any of the schools I mentioned in the title?
Errr...if you're thinking of doing Computing, I'd suggest bumping Statistics up to an A grade.

It should boost your chances of getting into that grammar school.
(edited 12 years ago)
Having gone to Wallington (but left a few years ago) you will be achieving a fair bit higher than most in the school at year 11. When I was there I was under the impression people coming into the 6th form were accepted/ rejected on results day based on the grades they got rather than any predictions. With 4 A*s 5As and 2 Bs I was in the top 30 or so therefore you must have a decent chance!
Reply 3
Atm to get into wallington you need 6A* I think, so aim to that level if not higher. I always though getting into wilsons was tough as they don't let many people in, and I think Sutton grammar only let 20 people in for their sixth form but it is not as competitive as Wlisons or Wallington.
Reply 4
I'm currently at Sutton Grammar.

No they don't let 20 people in.. About 3 or 4 per year.

Original post by Frankiej
Atm to get into wallington you need 6A* I think, so aim to that level if not higher. I always though getting into wilsons was tough as they don't let many people in, and I think Sutton grammar only let 20 people in for their sixth form but it is not as competitive as Wlisons or Wallington.


The guys who joined my year all had 10+ A*s.

Then again, might as well try.
Reply 5
Original post by Xarren
I'm currently at Sutton Grammar.

No they don't let 20 people in.. About 3 or 4 per year.



The guys who joined my year all had 10+ A*s.

Then again, might as well try.


Woaaah really? o.0 My school let in about 50 people this year most of which are 4A* or more, but we were told Sutton grammar had similar policies :/ But yeah, my friend got into Wallington boys this year she got 7A* and she was told the minimum was 6A* to be considered.
Reply 6
Original post by Frankiej
Woaaah really? o.0 My school let in about 50 people this year most of which are 4A* or more, but we were told Sutton grammar had similar policies :/ But yeah, my friend got into Wallington boys this year she got 7A* and she was told the minimum was 6A* to be considered.


Well, Sutton Grammar only lets in as many people as it kicks out. And not that many of us fail our GCSEs bad enough to get kicked out :P.
Reply 7
Original post by Xarren
Well, Sutton Grammar only lets in as many people as it kicks out. And not that many of us fail our GCSEs bad enough to get kicked out :P.


Ahh I see what you mean, ours let in quite a few, its crazy because I doubt we'll even get to know everyone in our year even by the time we leave next year.
6+ A*s sounds unlikely. There were people with far less than that joining in my year and I doubt the entrance requirements have changed that much. Wallington lets about 20-30 people in a year, the ones they kick out/ decide to go elsewhere and a few extra places, given that there were 120 people in my year between year 7 and 11 and a fair few more in 6th form.
I wouldnt bother with Wilsons, its a bit of a dump.
Reply 9
I'm pretty sure the minimum will be 5A*/3A or 4A*/4A, probably the former. I'm aiming for 5 A*s, but I'll probably only get 4, and then I probably won't get in :-(

Lol I seriously don't get how Wilson's chooses who gets in, a guy in my year is predicted 9 A*s and was instantly rejected :s-smilie:
Reply 10
Hello! I took my GCSEs at Wallington and am currently in my 2nd year of Sixth Form at Wilson's. What I can tell you is that getting into Wilson's 6th form is much harder - they only accepted 2 external students last year for Sixth Form, really because most of them matriculate to Year 12 based on their GCSE performance. Wallington is far more open, every year around 25 don't reach the min GCSE threshold to gain a place in the 6th Form - and they increase their Year Group Capacity too. I'd advise focusing on Wallington 6th form in this regard.I'm a little confused about the grades you offered, are they GCSE predicted grades, and if so shouldn't 9-1 format? Anyways, they care about your ACTUAL results, not the predictions. On this topic, you are competing with the brightest students in comprehensive schools for places at selective sixth form colleges so bumping these up as much as possible in the exam will only benefit you. I think I can help most with your A Level Questions though! I took Politics, Economics and Spanish at AS at Wilsons, as well as Maths. In Year 13 though I dropped Politics. Wasn't my cup of tea personally, just took it because the content looked good. Economics is amazing and very accessible at Year 12. Would definitely recommend it, but the content really starts to ramp up conceptually in Year 13. Spanish is also a very enrinching A-Level and its great that you're thinking about it. I'd say go for it, you will learn more about Spanish and Latin American culture, instead of the more general A-Level, as well as study a FILM and book. The only disadvantage is that it isnt a level playing field. The natives taking it will inevitably find the reading/listening parts of paper 1 easier, but its designed to be less favourable to people to speak fluent Spanish and more to the complexity of language used - kinda like GCSE Spanish. I'd recommend you take Maths though if you plan on pursuing economics; the two complement each other well (graphical understanding and quantitative skills form a large part of economics) and if you wish to apply to some top economics courses in the future, maths is usually a requirement. Computing sounds good, never done it - not even at GCSE - so I can't contribute much else there.Apply, come in if you're called and see what happens from there.
Reply 11
Hello! I took my GCSEs at Wallington and am currently in my 2nd year of Sixth Form at Wilson's. What I can tell you is that getting into Wilson's 6th form is much harder - they only accepted 2 external students last year for Sixth Form, really because most of them matriculate to Year 12 based on their GCSE performance. Wallington is far more open, every year around 25 don't reach the min GCSE threshold to gain a place in the 6th Form - and they increase their Year Group Capacity too. I'd advise focusing on Wallington 6th form in this regard.

I'm a little confused about the grades you offered, are they GCSE predicted grades, and if so shouldn't 9-1 format? Anyways, they care about your ACTUAL results, not the predictions. On this topic, you are competing with the brightest students in comprehensive schools for places at selective sixth form colleges so bumping these up as much as possible in the exam will only benefit you.

I think I can help most with your A Level Questions though! I took Politics, Economics and Spanish at AS at Wilsons, as well as Maths. In Year 13 though I dropped Politics. Wasn't my cup of tea personally, just took it because the content looked good. Economics is amazing and very accessible at Year 12. Would definitely recommend it, but the content really starts to ramp up conceptually in Year 13. Spanish is also a very enrinching A-Level and its great that you're thinking about it. I'd say go for it, you will learn more about Spanish and Latin American culture, instead of the more general A-Level, as well as study a FILM and book. The only disadvantage is that it isnt a level playing field. The natives taking it will inevitably find the reading/listening parts of paper 1 easier, but its designed to be less favourable to people to speak fluent Spanish and more to the complexity of language used - kinda like GCSE Spanish. I'd recommend you take Maths though if you plan on pursuing economics; the two complement each other well (graphical understanding and quantitative skills form a large part of economics) and if you wish to apply to some top economics courses in the future, maths is usually a requirement. Computing sounds good, never done it - not even at GCSE - so I can't contribute much else there.

Apply, come in if you're called and see what happens from there.
Original post by Plixie
Hello! I took my GCSEs at Wallington and am currently in my 2nd year of Sixth Form at Wilson's. What I can tell you is that getting into Wilson's 6th form is much harder - they only accepted 2 external students last year for Sixth Form, really because most of them matriculate to Year 12 based on their GCSE performance. Wallington is far more open, every year around 25 don't reach the min GCSE threshold to gain a place in the 6th Form - and they increase their Year Group Capacity too. I'd advise focusing on Wallington 6th form in this regard.

I'm a little confused about the grades you offered, are they GCSE predicted grades, and if so shouldn't 9-1 format? Anyways, they care about your ACTUAL results, not the predictions. On this topic, you are competing with the brightest students in comprehensive schools for places at selective sixth form colleges so bumping these up as much as possible in the exam will only benefit you.

I think I can help most with your A Level Questions though! I took Politics, Economics and Spanish at AS at Wilsons, as well as Maths. In Year 13 though I dropped Politics. Wasn't my cup of tea personally, just took it because the content looked good. Economics is amazing and very accessible at Year 12. Would definitely recommend it, but the content really starts to ramp up conceptually in Year 13. Spanish is also a very enrinching A-Level and its great that you're thinking about it. I'd say go for it, you will learn more about Spanish and Latin American culture, instead of the more general A-Level, as well as study a FILM and book. The only disadvantage is that it isnt a level playing field. The natives taking it will inevitably find the reading/listening parts of paper 1 easier, but its designed to be less favourable to people to speak fluent Spanish and more to the complexity of language used - kinda like GCSE Spanish. I'd recommend you take Maths though if you plan on pursuing economics; the two complement each other well (graphical understanding and quantitative skills form a large part of economics) and if you wish to apply to some top economics courses in the future, maths is usually a requirement. Computing sounds good, never done it - not even at GCSE - so I can't contribute much else there.

Apply, come in if you're called and see what happens from there.


He cannot wait to go back to school after 10 years
Reply 13
How many A* did you have to get into Wilson?

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