The Liverpool FC Thread VII

For me, I don't even give the time of day to people who sing or even THINK 'Always the victim, it's never your fault'. For gods sakes, PEOPLE DIED. I feel bad for them just like I do for Hillsborough or how I would for ANY TRADEGY. Do you think the Liverpool fans that were present WANTED 39 italians to end up dead? Do you think they went to Italy armed with machine guns with the sole intention to cause mass destruction and obliterate as many Juve fans as they could? It is most often portrayed that way and if you really think that i'm not talking to you. You clearly don't have a close relationship with LOGIC. That situation got to a point it never should have and it's unfortunate. I have the deepest remorse for the people affected and I say rest in peace and that's all there is to it. Anyone who makes any other issue out of it is a child and needs to take a step away from football if it gets to the point where you cannot even seperate death and football fandom. Yes the disaster was caused mostly by aggressive and disorderly Liverpool fans. Liverpool Football Club served their ban from Europe. 39 people died and we can never bring them back. Does that mean I, as a Liverpool fan should be ashamed of myself? No Heysel happened 20 odd years before I was born. Why should I feel some sort of responsibility for it? Yes the Liverpool fans that were there acted disgustingly, I abhor them as I would had they been fans of any other football club. IN FACT, I will go further and say who they supported has no baring or relevance to the topic at hand anyway. It means nothing. It's like a mass murderer in China turns out to be a Spurs fan and then people start singing about it at Spurs games. This is how flawed and stupid the logic behind singing about disaster is. It makes no sense and the fact that a great number of people do it is sickening to me really.

I feel the same way about Heysel as I do Hillsborough, events I was not directly affected by but I feel endless remorse for the people that were. I will never understand people that think it's appropriate to sing about these issues as a stick to beat Liverpool fans with. Just like I am sickened by Liverpool fans, or any fans, that sing about Munich. It's juvenile, it's pathetic and it's hypocritical.

The club brings more attention to Hillsborough because there is an on going justice campaign.

Heysel happened in 1985, so hardly 20 years before you were born. Also, it wasn't all Italian fans who died out of the 39 that did, there were a few Belgians there and other nationalities too. As regrettable as it was, it's still used as a stick to beat us with by those who criticise us and take the piss out of us for celebrating out past successes, as ironic as that is.

Yet many liverpool fans, including people on here, fail to accept that liverpool fans have to take a significant amount of blame for Heysel.

Transfer Outs:
Alberto Aqualani: £16 Million
Jole Cole: £10 Million
Dirk Kuyt: £5 Million
Maxi Rodriguez: £5 Million

You're seriously clueless. AC Milan don't want to sign Aquilani for £6m so who the **** is going to pay £16m for him? You're embarrassing yourself.

I don't know if he's a really bad WUM or just really thick.

Anyway I heard that we had scouts at Bologna's game today as well as at Bilbao's game. Kenny was also present at Montepillier vs Tolouse.

So possible players being looked at:
Ramirez, Muniain, Susaeta, Martinez, Sissoko, Capoue, Giroud, Mbiwa?

My procrastination today has revolved around watching Suarez's third goal like a 100 times.

One of the greatest vids ever:

Team for Next Season

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Johnson---Agger--Skrtel---Enrique
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-------Lucas--------J.Martinez-----
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----Gerrard------------G.Ramirez-
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--------Suarez--F.Llorente-----