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Open Applications

Just to ask if anyone has any experiences with open applications, eg you or someone you know did an open application. What college did you/he/she get? Do you think that an open application would increase your chance to get into oxbridge? :smile:

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hildabeast
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TheWolf
Just to ask if anyone has any experiences with open applications, eg you or someone you know did an open application. What college did you/he/she get? Do you think that an open application would increase your chance to get into oxbridge? :smile:


Yes I know loads of people who made open applications. If you're snobby about which college you want to be in (ie. you want an ancient, rich, traditionally prestigious one) then don't do it. If you don't really mind where you end up then I don't think it will increase your chances but you will ease the pressure of having to make a college choice. Personally I think think more people should make open applications.
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Tek
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hildabeast
If you're snobby about which college you want to be in

Oh, just shut up for once. You seem to lack the empathy required to recognise that others may want to look for certain things in colleges (ie accommodation, number of fellows in that subject) but it doesn't make them snobby now, does it?

Perhaps you should check the definition of the word? It might surprise you.
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blissy
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Methinks you misread Hildabeast! She did qualify her use of the word "snobby" as in PURELY wanting an old, prestigious college rather than looking at everything (fellows, accommodation etc like you mentioned).
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Tek
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blissy
Methinks you misread Hildabeast! She did qualify her use of the word "snobby" as in PURELY wanting an old, prestigious college rather than looking at everything (fellows, accommodation etc like you mentioned).

Yet she doesn't mention issues of accommodation, fellows or anything else. In fact, if you make an open app you may be pooled to an all girls' college!
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hildabeast
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Tek
Oh, just shut up for once. You seem to lack the empathy required to recognise that others may want to look for certain things in colleges (ie accommodation, number of fellows in that subject) but it doesn't make them snobby now, does it?

Perhaps you should check the definition of the word? It might surprise you.


Erm, I wasn't saying that people who choose their college are snobby; just that making an open application isn't a bad idea unless you are really concerned to get into a prestigious college, as these are likely to be the ones with more applicants per place.
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blissy
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Tek
Yet she doesn't mention issues of accommodation, fellows or anything else. In fact, if you make an open app you may be pooled to an all girls' college!


To which both Hildabeast and I would say "there's nothing WRONG with a girls college" although we do realise that it isn't for everyone.
Reply 7
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Tek
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hildabeast
Erm, I wasn't saying that people who choose their college are snobby; just that making an open application isn't a bad idea unless you are really concerned to get into a prestigious college, as these are likely to be the ones with more applicants per place.

And how is it snobby to want to be in an "ancient building", exactly?
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Tek
Yet she doesn't mention issues of accommodation, fellows or anything else. In fact, if you make an open app you may be pooled to an all girls' college!



:eek: can i guy get pooled to an all girls college if you apply for an open application :eek:
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Tek
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blissy
To which both Hildabeast and I would say "there's nothing WRONG with a girls college" although we do realise that it isn't for everyone.

Well let's be honest, it is fundamentally sexist, which is inherently wrong, but that's not the issue...
Tek
Yet she doesn't mention issues of accommodation, fellows or anything else. In fact, if you make an open app you may be pooled to an all girls' college!


Well, it's usually assumed that those who make open applications are not concerned about differences in accomodation/fellows etc. To be honest, having fellows in a particular subject which interests you is not really an important factor at undergraduate level because there is nothing to say you will be taught by them anyway.
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Tek
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TheWolf
:eek: can i guy get pooled to an all girls college if you apply for an open application :eek:

Um, no. Then it wouldn't be called an "all girls' college".
Reply 12
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blissy
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I think if you are "snobby" you tend to think that an older building, older college etc will signify a better education. (It's ridiculous, people in the best universities squabbling over who is the most clever of the most clever!)

Tek, does this stem from a worry that you will be percieved as "snobby"?
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Tek
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hildabeast
Well, it's usually assumed that those who make open applications are not concerned about differences in accomodation/fellows etc. To be honest, having fellows in a particular subject which interests you is not really an important factor at undergraduate level because there is nothing to say you will be taught by them anyway.

Funny that. I was told (by a Don) that it was important to go to a good college for one's subject because the teaching there would be better.
Tek
Well let's be honest, it is fundamentally sexist, which is inherently wrong, but that's not the issue...


No, what's fundamentally sexist is that at both Oxford and Cambridge, women have less chance of getting in at all levels (statistically speaking). What's fundamentally sexist is that less than 10% of professors are women, and only a thrid of graduate students.
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Tek
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blissy
Tek, does this stem from a worry that you will be percieved as "snobby"?

I'd rather live in a 13th or 14th Century building purely for the "Oxbridge experience". I couldn't stand going to a red brick college! But that doesn't make me snobby though. It's a difference in taste.
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blissy
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Tek
Funny that. I was told (by a Don) that it was important to go to a good college for one's subject because the teaching there would be better.


I think Hildabeast meant subject of the subject - a specialism in the subject.
Reply 17
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Tek
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hildabeast
No, what's fundamentally sexist is that at both Oxford and Cambridge, women have less chance of getting in at all levels (statistically speaking). What's fundamentally sexist is that less than 10% of professors are women, and only a thrid of graduate students.

Explain to me how having a female only institute is not intrinsically sexist.
Tek
Funny that. I was told (by a Don) that it was important to go to a good college for one's subject because the teaching there would be better.


Not necessarily true, in my expereince. For example, I know loads of people who went to Teddy Hall to read degrees with a philosophy component because one of the fellows is an internationally reknowned logic expert and they have never even been taught by him. A lot of teaching is organised centrally through the faculties.
Tek
I'd rather live in a 13th or 14th Century building purely for the "Oxbridge experience". I couldn't stand going to a red brick college! But that doesn't make me snobby though. It's a difference in taste.

No, it doesn't make you snobby, but it does show that you are incredibly fickle and only seem to want to go for the prestige.

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