What is big? (not what it sounds like)

It's all relative and more importantly is it good for a 15 year old to use weights? I think not.

Reply 3

Hashshashin

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G4ry

It's all relative and more importantly is it good for a 15 year old to use weights? I think not.

That's a myth, according to Wikipedia's article on weights training.

Reply 4

OP

I read somewhere that squats can actually release growth hormones.

Reply 5

G4ry

It's all relative and more importantly is it good for a 15 year old to use weights? I think not.

yes it is.

'big'(ish) for a 15 year old would probably be around 14 inches.

Reply 6

teenageclay

I read somewhere that squats can actually release growth hormones.

all exercise does in its own way, squats are nothing special.

Reply 7

OP

Does it also depend on height and weight and stuff like that because I mean someone could just be really fat and have fat arms with no muscle.

Reply 8

dan1982

bis432

all exercise does in its own way, squats are nothing special.

wrong : testerone increases muscle gain during exercise, and if you work out the largest muscle first then you get a huge increase in this while working outthe rest. Squat does this to your thigh, and its best to start any workout with squats.

Reply 9

dan1982

wrong : testerone increases muscle gain during exercise, and if you work out the largest muscle first then you get a huge increase in this while working outthe rest. Squat does this to your thigh, and its best to start any workout with squats.

dumbass. firstly, what you said is wrong. secondly, how is what i said 'wrong'? if i done a squat to upright row it would produce more, i was merely pointing out that all resistance exercise does it, not squats more than anything else. it depends on how much muscle is being used, not what exercise.

Reply 10

teenageclay

Does it also depend on height and weight and stuff like that because I mean someone could just be really fat and have fat arms with no muscle.

obviously someone who is taller would have a longer muscle and therefore it would stretch more, and people who are fat are generally going to have bigger padding on their arms.

why do you care anyway? its kinda sad.

Reply 11

OP

Well no I was just wondering because I'm really interested in human biology and dietetics (spelling?) and I am trying to work out and was just trying to figure out whether I was progressing at all.

Reply 12

well your measurements? stats?

Reply 13

OP

Well at the moment I'm doing 10kg dumbbells and last time I checked I think it was 11 Inches. I've finally found a gym that will lets me use weight resistance machines and cables which is good so I can attack my muscles from different angles so they don't get used to the exercise and stop developing.

Reply 14

resistance of an exercise takes a long time. stick to the basic compound exercises, and try to avoid resistance and cable machines if size is what you're after.

Reply 15

dan1982

bis432

dumbass. firstly, what you said is wrong. secondly, how is what i said 'wrong'? if i done a squat to upright row it would produce more, i was merely pointing out that all resistance exercise does it, not squats more than anything else. it depends on how much muscle is being used, not what exercise.

what talk about contradicting yourself, and making an arse at the same time. What you said is wrong, i quote.

"squats are nothing special."
Clearly you dont train properly if you abide by that. Squats are one of the best training exercises you can do. Because as i pointed out they will help in the natural production of testerone.
The best 3 routines being
1) Squats
2) Deadlifts
3) Bench Press

If you train with squats in a routine then effectively you are training inefficiently and incorrectly.
You want bigger arms, put some squats into a routine before and curls, deadlifts and bench. You will see a faster increase than without.

you did correctly say "all exercise does in its own way" but thats not to say you should ignore the better way, but then i started to ignore you when you said this

"not squats more than anything else. it depends on how much muscle is being used, not what exercise."

Of course it depends on what how much muscles, the more, the better the release of GH, but you find me something as effective as the squat on the largest muscle the thigh.

Reply 16

Ryan

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G4ry

It's all relative and more importantly is it good for a 15 year old to use weights? I think not.

What's wrong with it? :confused:

Reply 17

G4ry

Ryan

What's wrong with it? :confused:

I've always been told it's bad for the joints and the muscles shorten, something along those lines. Have you never been told about this? Perhaps it's not correct but i've never heard of children being encouraged to use weights - just using one's own weight for push-ups, pull-ups; no weights. Whether this is correct or not is a different matter.....

OK...had a quick look and found this article which says the opinion is split on the effects of lifting weights at a young age:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson38.htm

However this point stuck out to me:

"Children should avoid maximal or near-maximal lifts. ACSM specifically states that children should work with a resistance that will allow them to perform no fewer than eight repetitions (in other words, with children, emphasize lighter weights and higher reps)."

Is 10kg dumbells not a bit excessive?

Reply 18

Hashshashin

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G4ry

I've always been told it's bad for the joints and the muscles shorten, something along those lines. Have you never been told about this? Perhaps it's not correct but i've never heard of children being encouraged to use weights - just using one's own weight for push-ups, pull-ups; no weights. Whether this is correct or not is a different matter.....

Yes, most people have heard of it. It's an old wives' tale though. For a start, surely a child's body weight is going to be heavier than any weight they would be lifting?

Reply 19

G4ry