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I am being serious here. Why is ranked so low?
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Well the rankings generally reflect how good universities are rather than how bad... take my uni, Bangor, for example... we've fallen like 30 places in 4 years in The Guardian's league table... but I should think that this is more to do with Bangor not improving at a competitive rate, rather than it getting markedly worse.
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Because it's where the piss heads go who aren't clever enough to get into the Uni of Manc.
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MMU

That's probably why. Don't take much notice of league tables though..they're not very reliable. Uni. is what you make of it. :holmes:
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Because it's where the piss heads go who aren't clever enough to get into the Uni of Manc.
This made me looool.
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Because it's where the piss heads go who aren't clever enough to get into the Uni of Manc.
Contrary to popular belief, no. Graphic Design for instance is only offered at MMU.

Why the negs? Or did you not get onto Graphic Design at MMU? :rolleyes:
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It has quite low student satisfaction rates which do impact on its rating. If it could improve its satisfaction rating alone it could potentially move up quite significantly to the area of the good new universitites like Trent or Oxford Brooks. It also needs to improve it facilities spending.
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Because it's where the piss heads go who aren't clever enough to get into the Uni of Manc.
being a piss head doesnt equate to a lack of intelligence. Im sure that U of M has its own fair share of drunken students.
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Because it's where the piss heads go who aren't clever enough to get into the Uni of Manc.
I always hear this get said about a lower ranked uni that shares a city with a higher ranked one. But to be fair you could apply this same argument anywhere. For example you could say "University of Manchester", "University of Nottingham" - where the people who couldn't get into Oxbridge go'!

I not actually saying this for real - just trying to argue a point! I personally don't believe this should be said about any uni.
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Pretty easy to answer why it's ranked low. You visit the league table your using that show it's ranked low. Look at their methodology. And voilà, you have the reason why their ranked low.
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being a piss head doesnt equate to a lack of intelligence. Im sure that U of M has its own fair share of drunken students.
You forgot to add "Drunk and Intelligent"- major difference.
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being a piss head doesnt equate to a lack of intelligence. Im sure that U of M has its own fair share of drunken students.
In the long run it does. But back to the question, it's because it's the second tier University within Manchester. It's fallen in league tables drastically in the last few years.
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MMU has lower offers, more micky mouse courses, and when you are on the campus it really does have a less academic feel than the UoM

I'm going to MMU
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In the long run it does. But back to the question, it's because it's the second tier University within Manchester. It's fallen in league tables drastically in the last few years.
Sometimes third depending what table you're looking at.
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Sometimes third depending what table you're looking at.
Exactly. I usually go with thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk because it appears to be the most accurate. I was going to apply to MMU for Law, but they wanted ABB which I thought was quite high considering the position of the University in the league tables. If it was BBB or lower I would've applied. It's so high because it's in Manchester.
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Exactly. I usually go with thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk because it appears to be the most accurate. I was going to apply to MMU for Law, but they wanted ABB which I thought was quite high considering the position of the University in the league tables. If it was BBB or lower I would've applied. It's so high because it's in Manchester.
It is quite a high requirement but I guess it's because it's Law and as we all know it's a very popular course. Believe it or not MMU is actually the UK's most popular university in terms of the number of applications it recieves through UCAS so I guess that gives them the power to demand high entry grades. Having said that there are many similar universities that ask for ABB for law including DeMontford, Hertfordshire, Hull, Northumbria and Oxford Brooks. To be fair if the students at these universities are really achieving those sorts of grades I think its a bit unfair to be calling them unintelligent.
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It is quite a high requirement but I guess it's because it's Law and as we all know it's a very popular course. Believe it or not MMU is actually the UK's most popular university in terms of the number of applications it recieves through UCAS so I guess that gives them the power to demand high entry grades. Having said that there are many similar universities that ask for ABB for law including DeMontford, Hertfordshire, Hull, Northumbria and Oxford Brooks. To be fair if the students at these universities are really achieving those sorts of grades I think its a bit unfair to be calling them unintelligent.
I've applied to both Hull and Northumbria, both want ABB for Law. I went to look around MMU last year but it didn't look amazing. It appealed to me more than campus Universities, such as Lancaster. Totally depressed me.
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My Dad works as a lecturer at MMU and has worked at the University of Manchester in the past. He says that the people at the U of M work a lot harder than at MMU and he says that in MMU most of the work is in groups or pairs so people feel they do not have to work as hard.
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Teeheee - people do get very drunk at all universities, but frequency varies :L


Because you don't need to have done particularly well in your A-levels & GCSEs to get in,
I'm sure there are a number of very intelligent people there, but a lot of people will associate it with someone they know from school/elsewher who wasn't the most academic etc :L

Also the workload is different.
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Because it's where the piss heads go who aren't clever enough to get into the Uni of Manc.
Or those of us who want to live in the City of Manchester for various reasons, yet UoM dont offer the course
Luckily Ill be leaving my poo degree and starting a new one at MMU, in one of the best schools for my subject in the country
I could happily get quiet a few unis which consistently out rank UoM for a similar course, but not UoM its self. Bizarre!
Just goes to show league tables 'ain't what they are cracked up to be'!



Seriously though OP, partly due to the reputation the world 'metropolitan' carries and partly due to the fact some of the departments are, put honestly, ****.
In comparison to UoM, its obviously not as good. But it does have some superb departments. It offers some degrees which many would argue are 'mickey mouse degrees', this harms the universities overall position.
It has a high drop out rate and fairly poor student satisfaction, but I generally dont think this is a fault of the university, more that of the 'type' of applicants it attracts.
It almost certainly has a higher percentage of ***** who just want to party and do no work - but that shouldn't reflect badly on universities as a whole, which it does as things stand, unfortunately.

When applying to any university you need to look long and hard at the teaching quality and reputation of the department and course, then consider the university as a whole.
If you are doing a specialised degree the employer will know which universities do a good job of teaching it, and general reputation of the institution will come second to course quality.
Look at course rankings, then universities rankings.
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