Oxford or UCL for law
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Reply 100
helki
Yes, but it's a LOT more common to find people who will choose oxbridge over london. Let's be realistic here.
That's right. I never said this wasn't the case.
Reply 101
The head of the law fac at UCL (Rodders 
) said in an introduction speech to us that we were to be congratulated at having obtained a place at the fourth, third if we're feeling feisty, best uni in the country.
This is far.
this is not to say that Oxbridge (complete with corresponding lifestyle) would be best for everyone. For most people it would be though.
Edit: So any intelligent person would concede that putting down oxbridge without any consideration for UCL and its corresponding lifestyle would be foolish.
Advantage Oxford though.
Who is going to disagree with this (KCL lawyers ignore the first sentence )?
) said in an introduction speech to us that we were to be congratulated at having obtained a place at the fourth, third if we're feeling feisty, best uni in the country.This is far.
this is not to say that Oxbridge (complete with corresponding lifestyle) would be best for everyone. For most people it would be though.
Edit: So any intelligent person would concede that putting down oxbridge without any consideration for UCL and its corresponding lifestyle would be foolish.
Advantage Oxford though.
Who is going to disagree with this (KCL lawyers ignore the first sentence
)?Reply 102
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pixikicks
AGREED. I went to the Bristol Law Open Day yesterday, for people who received offers, and even one of the Law tutors there (I think the one who teaches International Law), the one who helped write the LNAT, or chaired the LNAT council or something, admitted that the best universities in the country are Oxford and Cambridge. He said, "as far as the best universities in the country go, Oxbridge is at the top and stands alone, and then below them, you have a group of about 6-7 of the best, including Bristol, UCL, Durham, Warwick and others."
And I think that for the overall university experience, you're going to be hard pushed to beat London's entertainment scene and everything.
Reply 103
I suppose I'm kind of biased. I'm a Londoner, so the London lifestyle/entertainment isn't such a big consideration for me, as I consider it the norm.
At the end of the day, though, you go to uni first and foremost to study instead of to have fun. Obviously you'll do both, but if you go to Oxford and get a good degree, you'll be sought after by every top London firm/chambers. Plenty of time for living it up in London, then.
At the end of the day, though, you go to uni first and foremost to study instead of to have fun. Obviously you'll do both, but if you go to Oxford and get a good degree, you'll be sought after by every top London firm/chambers. Plenty of time for living it up in London, then.
Reply 104
pixikicks
I suppose I'm kind of biased. I'm a Londoner, so the London lifestyle/entertainment isn't such a big consideration for me, as I consider it the norm.
At the end of the day, though, you go to uni first and foremost to study instead of to have fun. Obviously you'll do both, but if you go to Oxford and get a good degree, you'll be sought after by every top London firm/chambers. Plenty of time for living it up in London, then.
At the end of the day, though, you go to uni first and foremost to study instead of to have fun. Obviously you'll do both, but if you go to Oxford and get a good degree, you'll be sought after by every top London firm/chambers. Plenty of time for living it up in London, then.
Of course and that is what i would say too. But I do find myself questioning frequently how much better Oxbridge is for law than places like UCL in reality, which appears to be a much debated subject.
Reply 105
TommehR
I agree that Oxbridge is in a class of its own, academically in this country. However, employers can't just employ from Oxbridge candidates. There aren't enough.
And I think that for the overall university experience, you're going to be hard pushed to beat London's entertainment scene and everything.
And I think that for the overall university experience, you're going to be hard pushed to beat London's entertainment scene and everything.
However, in the case of the Bar they largely could; if they so wanted. Remember the Bar is a tiny profession. And trust me; you'll see why- the skills needed are varied, but the job offers so many potential advantages and opportunities to develop skills which are easily transferable.
Reply 106
pixikicks
AGREED. I went to the Bristol Law Open Day yesterday, for people who received offers, and even one of the Law tutors there (I think the one who teaches International Law), the one who helped write the LNAT, or chaired the LNAT council or something, admitted that the best universities in the country are Oxford and Cambridge. He said, "as far as the best universities in the country go, Oxbridge is at the top and stands alone, and then below them, you have a group of about 6-7 of the best, including Bristol, UCL, Durham, Warwick and others."
Without wishing to be controversial, Bristol would prefer this heirarchy because it suggests they're second rank, when in reality they aren't- even if we just go by RAE. Bristol's law school gains a lot because of the overall high quality of the university. The actual law department does not seem to have the same distinction as Oxbridge, KCL, LSE or UCL (might just be an innacurate observation).
In all honesty, if you are unsure about going to Oxford why not ring your college or the access officer of the College Student Union? A lot of people are reluctant/nervous about going, but most have a great three years.
Reply 107
It's your personal calibre. Such a small percentage of the population go to Oxbridge it therefore follows that if you're good, you are not completely screwed out of getting into a top firm. Although I do concede you have to be a certain standard to get to Oxbridge, but again not everyone there is better (academically) than absolutely everyone at other universities. You have to make it for yourself in this world remember!
Reply 108
Hey I don't know if anyone still checks this but I wanted to apply to UCL just because of their double degree program. (I'm not to bothered about not getting into it, because I will work as hard as I need to.) My only problem is if they offer any financial aid in order to study there! It's £20,000 (apporx.) tuition fee and I honestly don't have that kind of money.
Reply 109
Original post by stekrose
Hey I don't know if anyone still checks this but I wanted to apply to UCL just because of their double degree program. (I'm not to bothered about not getting into it, because I will work as hard as I need to.) My only problem is if they offer any financial aid in order to study there! It's £20,000 (apporx.) tuition fee and I honestly don't have that kind of money.
There are several UCL double degree programmes, including Columbia, Hong Kong, and Cologne. Certainly the US programme, and I believe the others, do not have any financial assistance from UCL (of course there may be external scholarships).
(Source: I'm currently a UCL finalist who has assisted with plenty of admissions open days)
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