The Student Room Group

Scroll to see replies

Reply 1380

Original post
by the_alba
Elidor was incredible, thanks so much for reminding me of its title! I've often remembered snippets of it, but was at a loss to its actual name. My grandmother was genuinely scared of it. A few years later, the BBC adaptation of Gormenghast helped fill the gap Elidor left.

The Borrowers, also - yes. It's nice to think of these disparate children all over the country, loving these stories, and then in adulthood remembering them with people you only know as adults. As lonely as childhood can feel, a child is seldom alone with these programmes. I have no idea what children watch now, but I hope it's a little bit as good as the stuff we had.

Also, Five Children and It, on CBBC. Awesome.


And Narnia!!!

Reply 1381

Original post
by obi_adorno_kenobi
I have Gormenghast on DVD. I read the Elidor stories quite young as my grandmother often holidayed in Cornwall. The wierdstone of brisangamen is a great one too. Amazing to move from the Famous Five and Secret Seven to those kinds of stories. Alan Garner is a genius! The programme I was thinking of was Earthfasts


I'm about to watch Earthfasts and see if I remember it. But also, apart from Five Children and It and the rest, Robin Hood and Maid Marian, or whatever it was called. The children's Robin Hood comedy, starring a young Baldrick. I loved it!

I know that kids have the Horrible Histories on TV now, and I'm sure I would have liked them too.

Reply 1382

Original post
by sj27
I haven't spent much time around classicists. Are beards to classicists what porsches are to investment bankers?? (You know ..."yes, but did you see The Lyceum's? I want to get one like that one day"...)


Sort of actually, well it depends on the subset of Classicist. I'm pretty much the kind of more...aggressive type, meh even one of my interviewers commented on my more "masculine" approach to the Classics. I really think that no matter how good your Greek is, if you've never been filled with rage, if you've never been in a fight, if you've never felt the kind of intense burning hatred that Akhilleus experiences....you can't understand the Iliad.

No, I don't think we need to interpret it as if its James Joyce etc, we need to accept its inherent alieness and approach via sound philology, always looking at the cultural context etc..but one some level if you're some little whippet without any real....umph..maybe...just maybe...heroic epic isn't for you.

Ironically people tend to read this off me and then get surprised when I'm actually pretty good at the usual philology too. My supervisor once joked that my coursemates, particularly the Oxonian ones, must feel rather odd about the fact I could happily punch them or be more than comfortable in the more complex Greek, Latin, Sanskrit etc...it's a mindset that does feed into the poems for me. So that's that when it comes to beards.

The other kind is the sort of eccentric professor, like my old supervisor, who is just a completely crazy bad-ass. Who better to teach you about Aristotle than someone who has grown a beard because he's too busy reading and researching to shave!?

There was a visiting DPhil student here last term who had one hell of a mighty one as well. With any luck, one year from now, that will be me.

Original post
by the_alba
Meh, I tend to find that it just makes me angrier and my life less tolerable, when some of the people who get jobs over me can't even name a favourite author, or hold a conversation about literature.


Believe me I can really sympathise with you. :frown: The worst is when people find it funny "LOL I'VE NEVER READ HOMER LOLOL LOOK MY AHRC!!11". It's really confusing, if you didn't love your subject enough to read extensively and form opinions..why waste years studying it?


Also @ Craghy, Cambridge is rather nice in its own way. I walked past St John's earlier and was sort of...shocked almost...it seemed so grand. King's too I guess but John's gate has really stuck in my head. We saw Pembroke too, I really want to see Peterhouse before we leave.

Reply 1383

Original post
by the_alba
I'm about to watch Earthfasts and see if I remember it. But also, apart from Five Children and It and the rest, Robin Hood and Maid Marian, or whatever it was called. The children's Robin Hood comedy, starring a young Baldrick. I loved it!

I know that kids have the Horrible Histories on TV now, and I'm sure I would have liked them too.


Maid Marian and her Merry Men:



Oh wow, this is fantastic!

Reply 1384

PS though, I'll always hold onto my Famous Five and Secret Seven. Did you ever read the Alfred Hitchcock Three Investigators series? As a tomboy, I probably never noticed or just ignored the fact that they were boys books, starring boys, for boys. They were clever and fun.

Reply 1385

Best kid's cartoons: TMNT, Pirates of Dark Water (or whatever it was) and Conan the Adventurer.

Reply 1386

Original post
by the_alba
PS though, I'll always hold onto my Famous Five and Secret Seven. Did you ever read the Alfred Hitchcock Three Investigators series? As a tomboy, I probably never noticed or just ignored the fact that they were boys books, starring boys, for boys. They were clever and fun.


Never really got into that. I got my niece a copy of the Magic Faraway Tree though!

Best cartoons, Lyceum, were Prince Valiant, Inspector Gadget, and Bucky O'Hare. Possibly followed by the Real Ghostbusters and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Reply 1387

I was a sucker for all those cheap American 'flog kids toys' cartoons. Like Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors and Visionaries which I never re-learnt the names of until youtube arrived. By comparison Ulysses was quite educational. And had by far the best theme song of anything I've ever watched. Except maybe Maid Marian.

Reply 1388

Reply 1389

Original post
by apotoftea


Best socialist kids telly programme ever!

Reply 1390

Original post
by obi_adorno_kenobi
Never really got into that. I got my niece a copy of the Magic Faraway Tree though!

Best cartoons, Lyceum, were Prince Valiant, Inspector Gadget, and Bucky O'Hare. Possibly followed by the Real Ghostbusters and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.


I watched Bucky O'Hare, but never really cared for it. Inspector Gadget same. preferred Banana Man, Superted, Count Duckula, Talespin. I loved Ghostbusters. I also loved the Turtles, but later learned that one of the creators is the worst, most narcisistic poet in history, so have gone off it somewhat. I also remember never being able to get past level 2 on the Nintendo game.

The Faraway Tree is beautiful. If she likes it, get her The Wishing Chair.

Reply 1391

Original post
by apotoftea


Oh my God, yes! I had Farthing Wood comics and everything.

Reply 1392

Original post
by the_alba
I watched Bucky O'Hare, but never really cared for it. Inspector Gadget same. preferred Banana Man, Superted, Count Duckula, Talespin. I loved Ghostbusters. I also loved the Turtles, but later learned that one of the creators is the worst, most narcisistic poet in history, so have gone of it somewhat. I also remember never being able to get past level 2 on the Nintendo game.


My mam used to call me duckipoos as a result of Count Duckula. Thinking about it in more recent years, it's one of the few things from which I can actually remember what her voice sounded like.

The Faraway Tree is beautiful. If she likes it, get her The Wishing Chair.


It is wonderful but unfortunately they teach children to read phonetically these days and her reading - as with the rest of her class - isn't where it should be. I cannot but get angry at the farce that is teaching in schools at the minute. Before she started on phonetics, I'd got her reading quite well.

Reply 1393

By the way guys, my endless typos are a combination of a) a poor internet connection when I'm in certain rooms, and b) the newly terrible TSR format. I now have to type out longer replies on word and copy/paste, because the quote and quick reply boxes mess me around so much.

Reply 1394

Original post
by obi_adorno_kenobi
My mam used to call me duckipoos as a result of Count Duckula. Thinking about it in more recent years, it's one of the few things from which I can actually remember what her voice sounded like.



That is really sweet, if I don't sound idiotic for saying that. My partner's mother still sometimes calls him 'Daithi Lacha' (Davey Duck), after a similar cartoon character.


Original post
by obi_adorno_kenobi
It is wonderful but unfortunately they teach children to read phonetically these days and her reading - as with the rest of her class - isn't where it should be. I cannot but get angry at the farce that is teaching in schools at the minute. Before she started on phonetics, I'd got her reading quite well.


Yeah, that stuff really disturbs me. I'm against private schools, but I'm also against teaching methods in state schools. I think phonetic teaching is good for those who struggle with reading, but for those who don't, it holds them back and makes it boring. I started school being able to read, and found it confusing being in classes where they sought to undo my reading, and to replace it with 'ah, buh, cuh, duh'. I don't want that for my own kids.

Reply 1395

Original post
by the_alba
Oh my God, yes! I had Farthing Wood comics and everything.


Me too! :biggrin: And the summer and winter special editions!

Reply 1396

Original post
by apotoftea
Me too! :biggrin: And the summer and winter special editions!


I loved the fox character, and The Fantastic Mr Fox, and the foxes that came through my garden... yet it still took me until I was about fourteen to reject fox hunting as a practice. *Shame*

Reply 1397

Original post
by the_alba
That is really sweet, if I don't sound idiotic for saying that. My partner's mother still sometimes calls him 'Daithi Lacha' (Davey Duck), after a similar cartoon character.


Hehe. I've lived nearly half my live with only memories so anything that raises a smile about it is good for me. Getting quite rare at the moment though. Having said that, I always wanted to be:




Yeah, that stuff really disturbs me. I'm against private schools, but I'm also against teaching methods in state schools. I think phonetic teaching is good for those who struggle with reading, but for those who don't, it holds them back and makes it boring. I started school being able to read, and found it confusing being in classes where they sought to undo my reading, and to replace it with 'ah, buh, cuh, duh'. I don't want that for my own kids.


The problem here is that Cymraeg is a phonetic language so we have a generation of administrators who come from Y Fro (the Welsh-speaking parts) insisting on a certain way of doing things. Apparently, though, it's buggered up the teaching of maths in Welsh-medium schools and it's having a detrimental effect on the teaching of basic literacy in English-medium primary schools. Given we're quite far behind much of the rest of the developed world in terms of literacy (ironic when Wales was the first fully literate society in the world) it's futile to carry on like this. You cannot teach English as a phonetic language because it isn't one. Cuh ah tuh works but you then have guh ah tuh uh which has to become gate. They get really confused.
(edited 13 years ago)

Reply 1398

Faraway Tree was the best book, ever. I have been known to reread it recently :ninja:

Reply 1399

Original post
by obi_adorno_kenobi

The problem here is that Cymraeg is a phonetic language so we have a generation of administrators who come from Y Fro (the Welsh-speaking parts) insisting on a certain way of doing things. Apparently, though, it's buggered up the teaching of maths in Welsh-medium schools and it's having a detrimental effect on the teaching of basic literacy in English-medium primary schools. Given we're quite far behind much of the rest of the developed world in terms of literacy (ironic when Wales was the first fully literate society in the world) it's futile to carry on like this. You cannot teach English as a phonetic language because it isn't one. Cuh ah tuh works but you then have guh ah tuh uh which has to become gate. They get really confused.


Interesting, I didn't know that. I wonder how it works in Gaelic-medium schools in Scotland, just in terms of squaring the two languages, and maths / science teaching. My understanding is that it only improves students' aptitude, as they grow up bilingual without adverse consequences. Irish-medium schools in Ireland tend not to suffer from the the problems you describe, as they tend to be middle-class dominated, with an intake of higher-income and higher-ability children, so they're starting at an immediate advantage compared to English-medium schools. Is it because Wales as a country is poorer anyway, do you think? I must confess complete ignorance here: the three times I've visited Wales, I *have* been struck by the obvious poverty and deprivation.

How The Student Room is moderated

To keep The Student Room safe for everyone, we moderate posts that are added to the site.