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    OK.

    My point still stands.
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    But how, in itself, does merely shaving make someone look "more sexual?" Is it just that that's what porn stars do, so it MUST be right?
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    But how, in itself, does merely shaving make someone look "more sexual?" Is it just that that's what porn stars do, so it MUST be right?
    That isn't what I'm saying at all.

    [How] does merely shaving make someone look "more sexual?"
    It doesn't.

    Shaving down there is interpreted as a sexual act, simply because it is doing something down there that isn't manifestly unsexual (say, tampon instertion, removal).

    Sexual acts are sexy. That's why we watch porn.
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    Because of the whole idea behind it. They're doing it with the knowledge that it's for this guy; they know that he will be, erm, down there - the whole pre-meditated side of it is quite sexual. It's like wearing nice lingerie - same sort of idea.
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    It feels nicer for me and for my boyfriend. Was really itchy the first few times I did it, but not that bad after. Wouldn't recommend doing it more than once a week though...
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    (Original post by englishstudent)
    Because of the whole idea behind it. They're doing it with the knowledge that it's for this guy; they know that he will be, erm, down there - the whole pre-meditated side of it is quite sexual. It's like wearing nice lingerie - same sort of idea.
    Which raises the question: do all girls do it only because they know guys like it?

    Feminism? Who? :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    Which raises the question: do all girls do it only because they know guys like it?

    Feminism? Who? :rolleyes:
    No, as this thread suggests many do it because they like it themselves. It's meant to feel smoother and more pleasant generally. Plenty of women say wearing nice lingerie makes them feel sexy - I am sure the same principle can be applied to this issue. Besides, whatever happened to getting pleasure from the pleasure of other people? There's nothing wrong with doing something for the benefit of others once in a while. Also if it makes a guy more inclined to get properly stuck into oral sex that's another bonus. It's similar to some girls not liking kissing guys with stubble, thus if he wants to be kissed a guy will shave. It makes sense and has nothing to do with (a lack of) feminist thinking.
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    Which raises the question: do all girls do it only because they know guys like it?

    Feminism? Who? :rolleyes:
    If a girl perceives shaving as a sexual act, she's going to get off on it too.

    If not, members of both sexes do things to thier bodies simply because the opposite sex likes it. Making yourself attractive to the opposite sex isn't an entirely fresh concept.
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    Regardless of whether you shave, wax or use cream, you'll end up with regrowth and stubble. Before you do any form of hair removal, assess whether you can cope with this as it can get kinda itchy in hot weather!

    I have to say, a completely bare look is much easier come bikini season, and is much cleaner during your period. It's also supposed to make you more sensitive during sex, and makes it more pleasant for your boyfriend.
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    (Original post by Angelil)
    You are probably right. I still find it a bit sad really, though.
    After all, the rest of a woman's body looks womanly (breasts/hips) so why shouldn't that particular area also look womanly?
    How does shaving it make it look less womanly? I don't understand where the prepubescent girl thing comes from, other than a coincidence. Being shaved doesn't make you look younger. Indeed, consider that I'd argue that that area is womanly, shaving it and thus making it more visable, when naked, is making it look more womanly, to me.

    (Original post by Helenia)
    Which raises the question: do all girls do it only because they know guys like it?

    Feminism? Who? :rolleyes:
    Are both women and men meant to not do things that please the other sex now? Do women dress up in short skirts to go clubbing because men like it? Do men work out just because women like it? Do men go down on women just because women like it? There's nothing wrong with doing something because the opposite sex sees it as more attractive, both sexes do it in all sorts of ways. Moreover, as someone said, if we're expected to pay attention to the area, making it nicer for us seems a kind gesture.

    Of course it's up to the girl whether or not she does it. She has the choice, hence I can't see it as a feminism issue. However the chances are it will please any sexual partners she has if she does, and as a side benefit, it will probably mean more attention is paid to that area, as it's more pleasant too. Both sexes do enough things just because the other sex likes it, it's not an uncommon thing.
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    Pubic hair on girls is cool. I laugh manically when I throw my cuttings all over them.
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    ...there's also the more general issue of enhancing sexual dimorphism.

    The less like a man a woman looks, the more womanly she looks.

    More womanly = more attractive.
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    Which raises the question: do all girls do it only because they know guys like it?

    Feminism? Who? :rolleyes:
    I wonder if any lesbians do it... Or maybe thats just in porn. But hypothetically would it be un-feminist to shave for the pleasure of your female lover?

    Since I am very lazy it makes me glad that in the name of masculinism I can abandon everything calculated to please a potential mate.
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    (Original post by pendragon)
    Since I am very lazy it makes me glad that in the name of masculinism I can abandon everything calculated to please a potential mate.
    & post 45:

    (Original post by pendragon)
    To make blowjobs better, I like to trim mine back regularly and when I can be bothered I pluck all the hairs around the shaft with tweasers. But dont try that last bit until you are highly skillfull with tweasers please.
    sounds quite high maintance to me anyway though! ^o)
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    (Original post by Drogue)
    Are both women and men meant to not do things that please the other sex now? Do women dress up in short skirts to go clubbing because men like it? Do men work out just because women like it? Do men go down on women just because women like it? There's nothing wrong with doing something because the opposite sex sees it as more attractive, both sexes do it in all sorts of ways. Moreover, as someone said, if we're expected to pay attention to the area, making it nicer for us seems a kind gesture.
    That's not entirely what I meant. What I dislike is that there are girls on here asking "Should I shave, cos I've heard guys like it more?" To me, that seems that they're not entirely comfortable with the idea but think that's what they have to do in order to be sexually attractive. I am perfectly aware that many girls like to do it for their own reasons, but feel sorry for all the confused ones out there who are being told to live up to certain expectations.

    (Original post by englishstudent)
    They're doing it with the knowledge that it's for this guy.
    That's the original bit I was pointing out - you made it seem (perhaps unintentionally) that they would only do it if it were to please a guy.

    I am really coming across much more militantly than I want to
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    That's not entirely what I meant. What I dislike is that there are girls on here asking "Should I shave, cos I've heard guys like it more?" To me, that seems that they're not entirely comfortable with the idea but think that's what they have to do in order to be sexually attractive.
    I do see your point. However I see it in the same way as short skirts - women were them out clubbing because they like the male reaction they get, or because they want to be more attractive to men. I don't know many girls who would do it if no man were going to be present in the club. Surely it's the same thing? They don't *have* to do it to be sexually attractive, as I think most girls realise, but like wearing a short skirt, it tends to get a sexier reaction from men. The difference being that the effect of short skirts is known and easy to see, yet inexperienced girls don't know what the effect of being shaved is on a man, so they're asking.

    In the same way, men don't *have* to go to the gym to be sexually attractive, but I know I'd go a lot less if I wasn't thinking about how girls would react to it. I don't see this thread as making someone have to do anything, however many people are concerned about how potential partners may react to them, especially about such a private area. More of a "will blokes like this", than "do I have to do this to be attractive". Shaving is entirely the girls choice, but she should be informed of the fact that yes, blokes do prefer it like that, when making that choice. It's not a necessity, but it is nice, and we do tend to be nicer in return The same way that a man who works out more tends to be seen as more attractive, or even the dreaded penile size issue.

    I do agree the girl has to feel comfortable with it herself, but to me, asking for guys opinions is an aid to help her make the decision, not a command that she must do that to feel attractive.
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    If I don't shave below my bf won't go down on me. If he doesn't shave his face I don't kiss him. Those are our personal preferences, neither of us like kissing hair!
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    i prefer no hair BUT when i do take the whole lot off it starts to grow back so quickly and i dont know about any1 else but when it grows back it itches! Sometimes its such a chore... so i just keep it neat most of the time.
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    I don't at all agree that shaving makes you look less womanly. It actually reveals more of the genitals..wouldn't showing more girly bits be more womanly?
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    Because it itches like ****ing crazy on some of us (and for the rest of you about to shout "Moisturise!" I'm not that stupid, been there, done that)

    Some girls just don't like the idea. It's partly the prepubescent thing, and partly just - why should I?
    :ditto:

    Not just itchy, think of razor burn, razor cuts, ingrown hairs... none of them are really very pleasant anywhere on the body, let alone down there.
 
 
 
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