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Reply 20

What's wrong with letting it heal naturally? Doesn't it go vaguely skanky after having superglue applied to it? If you ask me, it seems like a rather stupid idea.

Reply 21

uzi123
Do they not make plaster anymore?
Anyways, the glue hospitals use is totally different to normal glue.


i was going to say.. no way would they be using the liquid 'pritt stick' in a hospital... lol!

Reply 22

The original point in Superglue was to apply quickly to soldiers in Vietnam who had holes in them rather bigger than any plaster available.

Reply 23

Well it's certainly a better idea than when I tried to Prit Stick my leg back on after I stood on a land mine. Just wasn't happening.

Reply 24

well ok then.. lets say this:

it is ok to use 'superglue', as long as it is a medical superglue, and not something you pick up off the shelves at wilkinson.

sorted.

Reply 25

No, no. I mean the actual Superglue, the absolute identical chemical composition. There's no such thing as 'medical superglue' and more than there's any such thing as 'medical pritt-stick'.

Reply 26

Just to qualify that, 'superglue' refers to a very specific substance, not just any strong glue. It is superglue I'm referring to when I say that it was invented for use in Vietnam.

Reply 27

G4ry
How do you cut your hands snowboarding anyway? Don't you wear gloves?

I don't wear gloves cos they limit the amount you can feel when doing grabs and makes it harder to grab onto lifts due to lack of grip. I am one of those weird snowboarders that when possible boards in a T-shirt :p: It's wonderful feeling the cool breeze on your skin - good tan too :smile:

pumpkin7
well ok then.. lets say this:

it is ok to use 'superglue', as long as it is a medical superglue, and not something you pick up off the shelves at wilkinson.

sorted.

Pineappolis
Just to qualify that, 'superglue' refers to a very specific substance, not just any strong glue. It is superglue I'm referring to when I say that it was invented for use in Vietnam.

I also am referring to the superglue that was used in Vietnam, with the same chemical composition as "medical" superglue.

There is Germomile Newskin that I often use, but it is more difficult to use when boarding in my opinion.

Reply 28

The Canadian
I don't wear gloves cos they limit the amount you can feel when doing grabs and makes it harder to grab onto lifts due to lack of grip. I am one of those weird snowboarders that when possible boards in a T-shirt :p: It's wonderful feeling the cool breeze on your skin - good tan too :smile:


But even the pros wear gloves. If they felt it was such a great advantage they wouldn't wear gloves either. You're always going to cut your hands if you're trying to grab an edge which is designed to cut into snow/ice. Surely the best cure is prevention?

Reply 29

The Canadian
I'm a snowboarder and a karter, and as a result I cut my hands quite a lot, and to stop bleeding and seal the wound, I put superglue on it.

Yes, it does sting like hell, but you get used to it quickly, but people have been saying that it's gonna poison my bloodstream etc... but my mates and I have been using it for ages with no problems.

Is there any proof it's a bad idea?


It contains some pretty strong solvents that are bound to be cancerogenic for starters. Also, you know how the glue tubes usually say "use only in well ventilated areas" ? That should suggest that putting it in direct contact with your bloodstream is not the smartest idea in the world.

Reply 30

Pineappolis
Aye, I've never done it myself but it is exactly what superglue was invented for.


Siiiigh. It was the original inteded use of the substance, that does not mean it is safe to use it as such, or that it ever reached the stage were it could be used for what the inventors had hoped for. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the reason it is not marketed as a means of sealing wounds is because it turned out not to be such a good idea after all? There are plenty of examples of substances being invented with one use in mind, only to turn out to be absolutely useless for it and later applied to something else.

Reply 31

i feel sick now. ummm, it sounds stupid. But everything in life's a risk these days, so why the hell not use it anyway

Reply 32

The Canadian

I also am referring to the superglue that was used in Vietnam, with the same chemical composition as "medical" superglue.

There is Germomile Newskin that I often use, but it is more difficult to use when boarding in my opinion.


Unless the glue in question is explicitly made to be used on human skin I would say it is a bad idea. The reason is simply that you have absolutely no idea if it is made from bio-compatible substances or if they just added in a highly poisonous solvent to make it "stick better". If the glue is made to be used on skin then you probably know that they have thought about it when they made the glue, but if it is intended to permanently fuse glass or metal they could have added all kinds of componentes that could be really quite nasty.

Reply 33

Myself.
i feel sick now. ummm, it sounds stupid. But everything in life's a risk these days, so why the hell not use it anyway


Yes, nice logic there. By that reasoning it is perfectly logical to run across the street without looking first because everything is dangerous anyway.

How hard can it be to understand? Unless the glue is explicitly marketed for use on human skin, you can be pretty damn certain it will contain stuff that you don't want into your bloodstream.

Reply 34

Ok, I looked it up, and here we go:

1:s-smilie:uperglue was NOT invented for the purpose of sealing wounds. It was originally intended as a plastic material for gun sights. It was later developed into superglue and after that developed to be used in medecine.

2:Normal comercial superglue is NOT the same kind of glue that is used and approved for medical purposes. Normal comercial superglue is made from methyl-2-cyanoacrylate and releases formalaldehyde ( a quite nasty chemical ) while it hardens. The glue that is used for medical purposes is 2-octyl-cyanoacrylate and this is the compound that has been approved by the US food and drug administration.

3: It is true that the US army used superglue without the FDA's approval in Vietnam, but this was in order to close bullet wounds that would normally cause the soldiers to blead to death before they could get medical treatment. Naturally in such circumstances it would not be much of a concern if it caused severe damage if it saved the life of the soldier.

All in all. It is /not/ safe to use comercial superglue directly on wounds, it is /not/ the same kind of glue they use in hospitals. So unless you find yourself with a bullet wound you are probably better off with a plaster or a bandage ( or as some pointed out, just a pair of gloves ).

Reply 35

Oh Christ, I take it all back. Formaldehyde is a fairly potent carcinogen and to be avoided.

Reply 36

G4ry
But even the pros wear gloves. If they felt it was such a great advantage they wouldn't wear gloves either. You're always going to cut your hands if you're trying to grab an edge which is designed to cut into snow/ice. Surely the best cure is prevention?

Actually, the main use for the gloves is to prevent damage to finger BONES when you stack it. Most snowboarders wear mittens rather than gloves using the philosophy of you break all your fingers or none of them when you stack it!

Yeah, I know about formaldahyde, so I guess no more supergluing wounds for me. Wonder if araldyte will work? :p:

Nah, I'll probably pay a bit more and get some FDA approved stuff.

Reply 37

Jonatan


2:Normal comercial superglue is NOT the same kind of glue that is used and approved for medical purposes. Normal comercial superglue is made from methyl-2-cyanoacrylate and releases formalaldehyde ( a quite nasty chemical ) while it hardens. The glue that is used for medical purposes is 2-octyl-cyanoacrylate and this is the compound that has been approved by the US food and drug administration.


What evidence exists shows no toxicity using 'normal' superglue, and it is widely used in veterinary medicine. It has never been formally evaluated for medical use because it is out of patent protection and therefore not worth anyones while paying for the extensive and expensive medical trials.
The 2-octyl superglue is under patent and was therefore worth putting through FDA to get it licensed for human medical use.

In effect, normal superglue is probably Ok but has not been fully tested.
medical superglue has been through full safety and efficacy tests.

Reply 38

They super glued my eye brow at hospital when my sister threw a salt pot at me :smile:.

Reply 39

Why not just wear a thin pair of inner gloves? Allows for dexterity, and would prevent cuts.

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