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My Sociology techer said that The English A level was of a higher intellectual level than most counterparts in the world , including the American equivalent. You cant take the heat, plus you still do about 50 million subjects in your senior year which means i can only imagine are being taught at the level of GCSE. Instead of the specialised nautre of A Level. Its soo true that alot of Americans have never heard of Wales and think That The UK is London. :P
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(Original post by Bluelight)
My Sociology techer said that The English A level was of a higher intellectual level than most counterparts in the world , including the American equivalent. You cant take the heat, plus you still do about 50 million subjects in your senior year which means i can only imagine are being taught at the level of GCSE. Instead of the specialised nautre of A Level. Its soo true that alot of Americans have never heard of Wales and think That The UK is London. :P
Wow, at least you aren't making any sweeping generalizations :rolleyes:
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Tell me United States has MORE gun crimes than around this part of the world.
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/guncontrol_20010302.html
http://www.reason.com/0211/fe.jm.gun.shtml

Perhaps we do have more gun crimes, but guns are used to deter a lot of crimes. Maybe you should think about arming yourselves for protection?
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(Original post by j4mes_bond25)
Bearing in mind the following news article from Yahoo News

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21022006/34...ring-poll.html

where:

>> Britons are widely seen as Polite & Educated, but sadly Boring &
>> French as being the Rudest, while
>> American are seen as Most Ignorant & Ambitious

However, I wonder as WHAT EXACTLY is it that's seen as a sign of "Politeness" & "Boredom" within an individual Briton, in the eyes of Johny Foreigner ???

that's not true......i'm not boring!
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(Original post by Princess Jasmine)
that's not true......i'm not boring!
:sleep:

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About Americans - Yes, it's true I've talked to an American who think that all the British are royalty and live in mansions like Pride and Predjudice or else in London "slums", but then I've talked to many more intelligent Americans who understand we're ot all royalty and have heard of Wales. It's the same for the British, there's some ignorant of Americans (e.g. "They are all fat and lazy").
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(Original post by Made in the USA)

Oh, and we have a lower crime rate than you do, so I'm not sure what you mean by "unsafe mess"
Not gun crime though, surely? And homicides?
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You can laugh and take the piss out of America, but it has one of the highest rates of GDP per capita - You can insult their intelligence and ignorance, but that's only because they're self-interested to a higher extent than most people. That's hardly a bad thing.

Sad fact is if you're born in America you've got an incredibly high chance of being wealthy compared to most other places in the world. The anti-Americanism on this board is astounding - The fact that most people in this country use American brands every day and then complain about the country is not only hypocritical - it's also stupid.
There isn't that much anti-Americanism here. Go to France to see what true anti-americanism is.
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Sometimes I wish the American media would run a story everyday for years on end on your fungus-teeth just to give you a taste of your own medicine and reinforce negative British stereotypes
So you're basically talking about stereotypes that if a Canadian with British parents hadn't created, you would never have heard of? So much for a stereotype.
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America is a competitive front. Unless you come from a little bit of money, or unless you make it career oriented, or a hobby, it is very difficult to find TIME to learn about the rest of the world from an in depth perspective. I got to school for 6 hours a day, I study for 2, and I work for 8. You tell me when I am supposed to find time to leisurely study the economies and governments of the world? The time I don’t spend sleeping I usually spend on the net because I have strange work hours and most of my family and friends are sleeping.

That and think of it this way. You bash people from the United States about not knowing "the rest of the world." That's like criticizing a teacher for not knowing the names of every student in a large lecture. There ARE over 200 countries in this world. The bottom line is that people from other countries get pissy when people from the US don't know a lot about THEIR country, because then they feel as if the people of the United States are portraying them as inferior. That’s totally not the case. Here in the US, where I assure the way of life is more fast paced that 98% of the rest of the world, as an entire nation, if you don’t keep up, you will get lost in the shuffle.
So you're saying that Americans don't know about other countries because they're too busy? That sounds like the worst excuse ever.

And you have a very strange view of what the rest of the world is like. Like most people on here, Americans and Britons, you seriously need to travel more and that means more than a week in London for Americans or summer holidays in Florida surrounded by British tourists for Britons.
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(Original post by Made in the USA)
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/guncontrol_20010302.html
http://www.reason.com/0211/fe.jm.gun.shtml

Perhaps we do have more gun crimes, but guns are used to deter a lot of crimes. Maybe you should think about arming yourselves for protection?
Well, it's an arrow in the quiver now isn't it since I could argue saying someone owing a gun could use it the way he/she damn well please & THAT could potentially seen as a cause of increment in gun crime :rolleyes:

We don't need gun to protect ourself (& beside owing a gun simply DOES NOT guarantee the ability to protect yourself) :rolleyes: In this country, coppers EXIST to protect its citizen
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(Original post by Princess Jasmine)
that's not true......i'm not boring!
I can't be too sure of it, unless you pass your mobile no. & let ME be the judge of that
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You can laugh and take the piss out of America, but it has one of the highest rates of GDP per capita - You can insult their intelligence and ignorance, but that's only because they're self-interested to a higher extent than most people. That's hardly a bad thing.

Sad fact is if you're born in America you've got an incredibly high chance of being wealthy compared to most other places in the world. The anti-Americanism on this board is astounding - The fact that most people in this country use American brands every day and then complain about the country is not only hypocritical - it's also stupid.
Personally I'd say it's a very bad thing. When you have one world, and one chance to get it right, being self-interested can only bring short term benefits. If it is an 'advanced' nation, why doesn't it look around and help the rest of the world, use its advances to everyone's advantage.

And I agree with whoever said that Britons give the impression of being boring through our love of sarcasm. Something a lot of Americans don't understand (through experience, we were being sarcastic with some people from Chicago who were staying in our School and they took it for gospel. We had to explain we were joking - "you English are so cute with your uniforms and jokes which aren't funny".)
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And I agree with whoever said that Britons give the impression of being boring through our love of sarcasm.
Our dry wit is our weapon to win over hearts. For God sake, BRITISH sarcasm often turns BRITISH women on (or so I heard)
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"Well, it's an arrow in the quiver now isn't it since I could argue saying someone owing a gun could use it the way he/she damn well please & THAT could potentially seen as a cause of increment in gun crime

We don't need gun to protect ourself (& beside owing a gun simply DOES NOT guarantee the ability to protect yourself) In this country, coppers EXIST to protect its citizen"

Part of the American constitution is a right to bare arms to protect against a tryyannical government. They have a lower crime rate than the UK and so your argument about guns may increase the crime-rate has just been shot in the foot.

And considering how badly you're losing this argument stop smiling so much.
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Personally I'd say it's a very bad thing. When you have one world, and one chance to get it right, being self-interested can only bring short term benefits. If it is an 'advanced' nation, why doesn't it look around and help the rest of the world, use its advances to everyone's advantage.
Good to see America as the most charitable nation as well then eh?

Self-interest has given America the oppurtunity to be the biggest economic powerhouse and the most charitable nation as well.

"Right makes might" as it were.
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(Original post by ForeverIsMyName)

Part of the American constitution is a right to bare arms to protect against a tryyannical government. They have a lower crime rate than the UK and so your argument about guns may increase the crime-rate has just been shot in the foot.
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And murder rates?

(Original post by ForeverIsMyName)
And considering how badly you're losing this argument stop smiling so much.
Considering how you're not impressing anyone, you'd better stop taking yourself so seriously.
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If it is an 'advanced' nation, why doesn't it look around and help the rest of the world, use its advances to everyone's advantage.
'cos a country doesn't have a grand moral duty to save the world. It looks after its own citizens.
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Haha i *highly* doubt that.
But it's true! American foriegn policy has been mostly disastrous. Here are just a few examples:

1) Haiti - 1915 - to present

2) Korea - 1952

3) Vietnam - 1961-75

4) Cuba 'bay of pigs' - 1961

5) Dominican Republic - 1962

6) Cambodia - 1976-78

7) Israel/Palestine

8) Angola - post 1974

9) Grenada - 1983

10) The arms given to the Mujaheedin in Afghanistan, including Osama bin Laden - now your public enemy number one. Oh the irony! - 1980s

11) Somailia - early 90s

12) The arms sold to Saddma Hussein's govt in the early 90s to help him fight Iran, only to declare him irresponsible and invade in 2002.


However, closer to home in recent decades, the U.S. has been accused of complicity in the overthrow of:

13) Guatemala's liberal nationalist Jacobo Arbenz (1954),

14) Brazil's leftist Joao Goulart (1964),

15) Chile's Marxist Salvador Allende - who by the way was replaced with the US favourite General Pinochet(1973),

16) Bolivia's nationalist Juan José Torres González (1971),

17) in the prevention of Uruguay's Frente Amplio Party taking power (1971),

18) in arming El Salvador's government to prevent El Salvador leftist rebels from taking power (1980's),

19) in military attacks against Social Democrat Juan Bosch in Dominican Republic (1963),

20) Marxist Fidel Castro in Cuba (since 1960),

21) Nicaragua's leftist Sandinista government (1980's),

22) Grenada's leftist government (1983),

23) Panama nationalist Manuel Noriega (1989),

24) and in an intended coup against President Hugo Chavez, Venezuela (2002).

And as for the whole torture debate, well what about camp "x-ray" in Guantanamo Bay? Simply classifying the prisoners there as illegal combatants, rather the POWs may circumvent the Geneva convention, but it does not excuse the various counts of torture that have filtered out.

And I haven't even mentioned extraordinary rendition yet! Who in hell knows what's going on in US army bases all over eastern europe? Except of course that it definately isn't pretty!
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1)I don't really think this divide is exclusively an American feature. Exactly the same could be said for London, just look at the workers on the tube. Are you going to tell me now that London is not an advanced city? :rolleyes:

2)How exactly do you define 'advanced' anyway? Would it be 'advanced' to kick all the non-white workers from the tube and replace them with white workers? What would this achieve?
1)But the divide is more prominent in American society. ":rolleyes:"

2)Well I never intended to set out and define what an 'advanced' nation is, but it is my opinion that an 'advanced' society should feature high social mobility (between classes and races) with a 'fair' distribution of wealth and income. This is currently not as prevalent in American society as it could be, as is shown by the original article from last sunday's Observer and my points highlighting the large gini coefficient in the US. Your fatuos extrapolations from American society onto the London tube network are therefore defunct.
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