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nein.

other account was banned for some reason - the reason being i think i was talking to someone who had taken down the site or something before hand.. so that was crap - how was i supposed to know.

why would i want multiple accounts?

back on topic now...gg.
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Yeah, but girls can change their mind.

So what does the new boyfriend get ? A girl that has given head, taken it up the back passage etc etc, the list goes on. Just because the girl thought it was 'serious' in 'her head'.

I dunno, I reckon our society is falling apart. STI's have gone crazy in numbers, like 70% of marriages fail with cheating gone up. Most children are now born out of wedlock Women have dildos, people are dressin in Gimp suits! lol People have got hardcore porn on their mobile phones etc etc.

Its like a legitimised Sodom and Gommorah, just because it makes money. I understand why other cultures think the West is decadent.

We have lost so much of what we valued in our society.

Like I said, I am not religious but the no sex before marriage was a good blueprint for girls. It protected them mentally, physically and emotionally. And it gave the guys something special in return, i.e. a virgin bride.
I'm not even going to bother arguing, because clearly there is no point.

You stick to your opinions, I'll stick to mine.
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nein.

other account was banned for some reason - the reason being i think i was talking to someone who had taken down the site or something before hand.. so that was crap - how was i supposed to know.

why would i want multiple accounts?

back on topic now...gg.
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I'm not even going to bother arguing, because clearly there is no point.

You stick to your opinions, I'll stick to mine.
Awwww, I like arguin.

I dont really believe everything I say, I just give extreme examples to try and prove my point.

I see where you're coming from and I agree as long as you stay with one person. But how do you expect a new guy to feel about your previous sexual experiences?

Can you not see my point at all?
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Awwww, I like arguin.

I dont really believe everything I say, I just give extreme examples to try and prove my point.

I see where you're coming from and I agree as long as you stay with one person. But how do you expect a new guy to feel about your previous sexual experiences?

Can you not see my point at all?
I can see your point, but I think its outdated.

I expect a new guy to feel about my previous sexual experiences in the way that I feel about his; frankly, within reason I don't mind what he's done. It has no effect on me now, nor on our relationship, so why does it matter to me? Of course, if he'd been with something ridiculous like 100 women I'd feel differently, but if he'd had a couple of partners before me, I'd understand.

**** happens, relationships don't always stay together forever even if you think they will, and people make mistakes. Plus it'd be selfish of me to expect my partner to have spent their entire life waiting for me to come along.
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I can see your point, but I think its outdated.

I expect a new guy to feel about my previous sexual experiences in the way that I feel about his; frankly, within reason I don't mind what he's done. It has no effect on me now, nor on our relationship, so why does it matter to me? Of course, if he'd been with something ridiculous like 100 women I'd feel differently, but if he'd had a couple of partners before me, I'd understand.

**** happens, relationships don't always stay together forever even if you think they will, and people make mistakes. Plus it'd be selfish of me to expect my partner to have spent their entire life waiting for me to come along.
I understand all that.

But can you not see that guys take previous relationships MUCH more seriously than girls?

This is what we talk about when we're talkin about girls. Its like, if a girl has swallowed etc from one our mate or someone we know, we dont want anything to do with her. Can you not see this?
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Its like, if a girl has swallowed etc from one our mate or someone we know, we dont want anything to do with her. Can you not see this?
Why didn't you just put it like that in the first place. Would of saved so much hassle... as I now see your point
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Why didn't you just put it like that in the first place. Would of saved so much hassle... as I now see your point
Cos I like really stirring it up. :p:

But you know man, girls don't understand this thinkin (regarding my above point), they dont get it.
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I understand all that.

But can you not see that guys take previous relationships MUCH more seriously than girls?

This is what we talk about when we're talkin about girls. Its like, if a girl has swallowed etc from one our mate or someone we know, we dont want anything to do with her. Can you not see this?
I can see it in some cases, but you're talking on behalf of the entire male population, which you only know a fraction of! Most of the guys I know feel the same way I do; they don't mind within reason.

I wouldn't be best pleased if a guy had slept with my friend either, I think that's understandable. But on the whole, previous experience shouldn't have an effect on a current relationship, and in my experience, it generally doesn't.

We must just have very different friends.
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I understand all that.

But can you not see that guys take previous relationships MUCH more seriously than girls?

This is what we talk about when we're talkin about girls. Its like, if a girl has swallowed etc from one our mate or someone we know, we dont want anything to do with her. Can you not see this?
Seriously, you need a reality check.
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Yes, a female whos lips have been locked around some other guys manlyness have no place on my mouth.

Please note, the views expressed in this post are purely for comical purposes. In reality I do actually see where pretty boy is coming from, but wouldn't go as far as saying it means I'd no longer have respect for someone. Good day.
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Okay, I'm a Christian and I believe in no sex before marriage. My boyfriend and I used to have oral but it got to the point where we both knew that for our relationship, it was one step too far. Now we will do some "downstairs" touching and kissing, but that is it, and I'm wondering if even that is pushing the boundaries.
It sounds strange (to non Christians), but I firmly believe that when you are in a relationship with somebody who truly cares (and is also a Christian, I guess) then God will guide you in knowledge as to where the boundaries lie. And he wont do it from the straight-off, in scary Goddish terms, because that can be completely overwhelming. He will let you know gradually, lead you step by step, as long as you search for his direction on the matter. After all, being a Christian isn't about following laws. It is about God's love and trying to be like Christ. And God will lead you step by step.

That's my belief on the matter anyway. The Bible just mentions sex outside of marriage, it doesn't give specifics. So it's up to each couple to decide where their line is. Some extreme couples don't even allow themselves to hug eachother or lean on each other or anything. Obviously, I think that this is a bit too far.
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I can see it in some cases, but you're talking on behalf of the entire male population, which you only know a fraction of! Most of the guys I know feel the same way I do; they don't mind within reason.

I wouldn't be best pleased if a guy had slept with my friend either, I think that's understandable. But on the whole, previous experience shouldn't have an effect on a current relationship, and in my experience, it generally doesn't.

We must just have very different friends.
They tell you they dont mind. I reckon if they dont mind, its because they HAVE NO CHOICE. cos near enough every girl has bin up to sumdin hehe.

Previous relationships will always have a HUGE bearin for current relationship for guys especially if he hears sexual details.

For example, I dont know much about my current g/f's past, but if I were to hear that she had 1 night stands, swallowed, took it up tha jacksie, or any other details. Then my respect for her would be gone.
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Yes, a female whos lips have been locked around some other guys manlyness have no place on my mouth.

Please note, the views expressed in this post are purely for comical purposes. In reality I do actually see where pretty boy is coming from, but wouldn't go as far as saying it means I'd no longer have respect for someone. Good day.
Would you/have you had sexual relations with a girl though? Because if you have and you expect a girl no to then that's an extremely outdated opinion, and hypocritical!
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cos near enough every girl has bin up to sumdin hehe.
Erm, no?
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Sigh. I guess I'd best post my disclaimers in bigger writing next time.
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Sigh. I guess I'd best post my disclaimers in bigger writing next time.
Yeah, or just not write stupid crap like that in here.....
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Yes, a female whos lips have been locked around some other guys manlyness have no place on my mouth.

Please note, the views expressed in this post are purely for comical purposes. In reality I do actually see where pretty boy is coming from, but wouldn't go as far as saying it means I'd no longer have respect for someone. Good day.
See, thats what I'm talkin about.

And I would still respect them, just not as much and certainly not as a partner.
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Oh I do apologise. I didn't realise this place had become infested by such prudes.
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If so, why do you still call yourselves Catholic? This is Church teaching. Do you choose your own 'Pick n' Mix' faith? Catholicism Lite? Why do so many Catholics do this?
I went to a Catholic school and the only person I knew there who was waiting for marriage was a non-Catholic.

I do see your point, but think of it this way. You come from a practising Catholic family. You've gone to mass for your whole life. You believe in God. You want to live your life in a moral and Christian way. But you don't believe sex before marriage is wrong. Do you disassociate yourself and reject your entire religion just because you don't agree with one part of it? I think many practising Christians live their lives the way they believe God wants them to, but don't believe everything they read in the Bible. The Bible was, after all, written by men, who were ultimately fallible, and contradicts itself in many places.
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