What's better a degree in Construction Management or Quantity Surveying?

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I have two offers in the built environment, for Construction Management and Quantity Surveying
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What is your background in terms of work experience and qualifications?

Have you looked into Quantity Surveying as a career?

Are you set on a career within the construction industry or can you see yourself 'moving horizontally' so to speak into another sector?
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Thanks for the additional info.

Extensive experience of the industry will work in your favour whatever you decide to do. Only you can decide if Quantity Surveying is for you but it can open the door into other industries such as Gas and Oil with are very lucrative. Moving into finance in some form or another will also be possible with a QS degree.

The typical role of a QS within construction is putting together Bills of Quantities and Target Costs, paying subcontractors and generally rubbing people the wrong way, though saying that, a good QS is worth their weight in gold. The work is predominantly figures based which some either love or hate.

The majority of Project Managers I know were all Quantity Surveyors at some point (usually for a period of roughly 10 years) before moving across. Some do this with a Masters in Construction Management though it isn't required.

I see having a QS degree and working in construction management as having the best of both worlds but that is just my opinion based upon my ambitions.

Due to your age it may be worth looking straight into Management. Would you be more interested in a site management role or project management role?

Whatever you do decide to do, make sure your degree is accredited with the RICS.
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I have two offers in the built environment, for Construction Management and Quantity Surveying. Which job has the best prospects? highest pay and best chance of employment after graduating
I would say a QS has the best prospects. On most construction sites a QS or architect takes up the role as 'project (construction) manager' due to its relatively small size. If you're working on massive multi-million pound contracts then a specialism is required in managing it but there are many that argue that a QS could easily become qualified enough to become an out-right project manager through experience.

There's a lot being said about BIM at the moment though and the risk that QS fees can expect to see a downturn due to it taking over but I disagree personally.
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Good question!
For me I've been edging to construction project management, just because i like the hustle and bustle of construction sites. Quantity surveying does have advantages, but i think you personally need to have an interest in what these professions involve!!
way up the pro's and con's of both and see where you stand, and also look further into what they actually do and see if that interests you.
Also this thing with QS's becoming site/project managers, yeah possible but over the past decade of working on large/medium sites I've never come across a site or project manager who is from a QS background!
I'm not saying ones better than the other but it is a personal preference, as i have also got offers for CPM and QS degree courses, and I'm still trying to decide myself where i see myself in 10 years from know.
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I'm currently in my final 5 weeks of my BSc Hons Construction Engineering & Management degree at University of Ulster. With the introduction of BIM, an ever increasing emphasis on sustainable development and with construction companies becoming increasingly competitive in the current financial climate in order to make money companies call for greater emphasis on project management as better management results in a smoother project, which should result in a greater profit margin.
I have enjoyed every minute of the course and cannot wait to get onto site and put what I've learnt into action, and of course start real learning.

Construction is a brilliant route to take as the possibilities as to how far you go depend on how hard you work, and the technologies are evolving constantly.
Have a think to yourself, would you rather be involved in the more mathematical orientated QS side, or be involved in a more people/time based job.

What ever you do, give it your best shot!
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(Original post by garethwoods91)
I'm currently in my final 5 weeks of my BSc Hons Construction Engineering & Management degree at University of Ulster. With the introduction of BIM, an ever increasing emphasis on sustainable development and with construction companies becoming increasingly competitive in the current financial climate in order to make money companies call for greater emphasis on project management as better management results in a smoother project, which should result in a greater profit margin.
I have enjoyed every minute of the course and cannot wait to get onto site and put what I've learnt into action, and of course start real learning.

Construction is a brilliant route to take as the possibilities as to how far you go depend on how hard you work, and the technologies are evolving constantly.
Have a think to yourself, would you rather be involved in the more mathematical orientated QS side, or be involved in a more people/time based job.

What ever you do, give it your best shot!
You obviously don't know that:

A) BIM has been around for decades and still shows no real signs of taking off.

B) It is well known that CFSH and other 'green' initiatives are likely to be scrapped or heavily reduced due to the fact they bring no benefit to the builder - they reduce revenues and generate countless customer care issues.

C) The majority of a QS's time us spent talking and negotiating with people - managing orders and keeping things running smoothly. There wouldn't even be a bricklayer or other trade on site if the QS hadn't done all the groundwork.

D) Whilst I congratulate you on your degree, and wish you all the best in your future career, you are in for a rather large shock - if you are a site manager, project manager, contracts manager or pretty much anything else on site nothing gets done without the QS's say so.
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ok. just joined in but still confused as to the answer. which is the best career- QS or Cons. Project Manager?

or does one do the Bsc in QS and the Msc in CPM?

any experts on the topic pls respond
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(Original post by kayceeu)
ok. just joined in but still confused as to the answer. which is the best career- QS or Cons. Project Manager?

or does one do the Bsc in QS and the Msc in CPM?

any experts on the topic pls respond
The QS and the CM are the Project Manager's subordinates.

The term 'best career' is so subjective. Most major construction companies have cross-functional teams opposed to strict. This allows you to go into different functions within the industry.

For instance a Construction Manager could go into Planning due to knowing the construction sequence or Design Management due to knowing how building components work.

A QS could join the Procurement team as the roles are interlinked, or leave the organisation and work as a PQS.

Both could with their way up the hierarchy to become a Project Manager.
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It doesn't matter really. I got my BSc(Hons) in Construction Management and then ended up doing contractor QS work years - flip-floppin into estimating, scheduling (planning), buying, claims consulting, and site/project management. I know others that graduated with a BSc(Hons) in QSíng who never actually worked as a QS - they ended up working in other areas of construction management.

Frankly, there are very few differences between the program of study taken for a degree in QS''íng and a degree in CM. The core subjects are the same. The only real difference is that CM degrees are normally accredited by the CIOB whereas QS degrees are normally accredited by the RICS.
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Lol.

I'd like to see someone with a CM degree measure a large civil engineering job and produce a bill of quantities, jobs are completely different, you don't learn about the numbers game in CM you learn a lot more practical oriented topics such as building science, construction technology(extended) and the building environment, whereas QS courses teach you how to do take offs(measurement) produce bill of quantities, Contractual management, whole life costing, supply chain management. There is some crossover for sure but mainly in your first year.

To answer your question, a Project Manager is a very well paid/senior position where you are in control of managing an entire project, for most people in construction this is the aspiration.It's not an entry level job like a QS or a CM you have to prove your worth in a firm and be chosen for the responsibility.

I would say (i'm QS so take my opinion with a pinch of salt as i'm biased) i know more PM's which are previous QS' than CM's, CM is a bit of a vague role and if you're okay with the numbers, i think that Quantity Surveying is the "best choice" (subjective).

hope that helps.
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Hi guys

I want your advice, i have an offer for commercial manager position in project management field. Currently i m a cost controller and i m responsible on the project cost in terms of project budget work structure breakdown and feasibilty plan. I m thinking to take the position but i m afraid that it will hurt mycarrer as i m from finance background and i have an experience around 8 years in accounting and auditing field

So what do you think
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Hello, I am finished my A levels and waiting my results in August. I am stuck between two course which are Quantity Surveying and Design with technology.
I would like to know what the WS course is like? What are the job opportunities like after wards? And how is the pay?
For design and technology I would like to know the same questions also and does it involve much computer work? And what jobs are you likely to get after?
Thanks
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(Original post by garethwoods91)
I'm currently in my final 5 weeks of my BSc Hons Construction Engineering & Management degree at University of Ulster. With the introduction of BIM, an ever increasing emphasis on sustainable development and with construction companies becoming increasingly competitive in the current financial climate in order to make money companies call for greater emphasis on project management as better management results in a smoother project, which should result in a greater profit margin.
I have enjoyed every minute of the course and cannot wait to get onto site and put what I've learnt into action, and of course start real learning.

Construction is a brilliant route to take as the possibilities as to how far you go depend on how hard you work, and the technologies are evolving constantly.
Have a think to yourself, would you rather be involved in the more mathematical orientated QS side, or be involved in a more people/time based job.

What ever you do, give it your best shot!
Hello, I am finished my A levels and waiting my results in August. I am stuck between two course which are Quantity Surveying and Design with technology.I would like to know what the WS course is like? What are the job opportunities like after wards? And how is the pay?For design and technology I would like to know the same questions also and does it involve much computer work? And what jobs are you likely to get after?Thanks
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