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Littlejonesy
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Hi Guys

I 'm worried about a CRB check as I think I have a caution.

I was wondering if anyone has experience of having a caution and a CRB check done, and if it affected the job they had applied for?

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Abed1993
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Unless you have a criminal record, you'll be fine
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If it is spent, then you are okay. Even if it is not, it is not a conviction and so while it will show up on your check, it should not preclude your getting through the check.

Depending on what the caution is for, and the nature of the job you are being checked for, and how the org. runs their recruitment processes, you may find that you are asked to provide mitigation for this caution.
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Littlejonesy
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Thanks for the replies

I have applied for a subject access request from my local police force to see what they have on the PNC, so I'm currently waiting to get that back and see whats there, hoping it will put my mind at rest/prepare me for the crb outcome!

It's a bit disconcerting but I'm not sure if a business could deny you a role because of a caution 5 years ago?
As long as it isnt anything dodgey- if youre working with kids etc? I guess as Evidza says it depends on the business.

If ayone has any experience of police cautions and CRB checks, please feel free to let me know!

Thanks!
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I recieved a police caution 2 years ago and i've had 2 enhanced CRBS done since then and it's never showed up so does this mean it won't ever show up? Am quite worried as the uni course i would like to do requires a crb check and am scared it might just pop up?
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I've heard of spent cautions being removed from the database after a phonecall. A lot of the time they're updated onto local intelligence networks rather than a national database. When asked on an application form for convictions you can quite honestly state none.
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cautions stay on your record for life and will come up on any enhanced or standard CRB checks. You are excluded from any or all worthwhile paid jobs and you cant even become a cleaner in a school !

I would suggest that anyone with a caution that should disappear (over time) contact liberty and explain the situation. If you did the same thing in any other country your record is wiped. In this country we discriminate against our own people. So someone from France, Poland, Germany with the same issues would not have a criminal record, but someone form UK will, no wonder UK people are finding it impossible to find jobs.

The Labour government has excluded (on purposes) its own citizerns from pursuing wortwhile careers in any profession or vocation which is highly paid. This was to ensure UK citizerns are kept as lowly paid employees compared to any other European national that comes to this country.

http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/index.php
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the law when retention of cautions was changed on the 29th may. If you have a cautionas an adult – over 18 – it should be filtered off criminal records checks after 6 years unless it was for one of a list of more serious offences

If you got a reprimand. When you were under 18, and again for minor matters – it should be off after 2 years

If any reason, it is not filtered off but you need it removing now, it may be possible to do so, depending upon all the circumstances of the offence, whether you can show procedural irregularities or other exceptional circumstances

If you need further advice on this I will be happy to advise further

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I don't think a caution will really affect your chances of being employed. Where I work, I've seen CRBs come back with convictions for benefit fraud, football hoolagalism and a few funny ones where a group of people were drunk and stole a tree but they all went through fine for Social Worker positions and other roles working with children and vulnerable adults. Obviously more serious crimes will prevent you from getting a job (depending on the conviction and its relevance to the role in question).You will probably just need to give your side of the story in writing, which will then get signed off by someone senior who does a risk assessment and signs their part of the form off to justify how taking you on provides minimal risk. I suppose it depends from manager to manager though but I'm sure you will be fine
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I don't understand how you only think you have a caution - for you to be given a caution you have to accept it so you'd know. If you can't remember accepting it, the liklihood is you don't have one.
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(Original post by boobear123)
cautions stay on your record for life and will come up on any enhanced or standard CRB checks. You are excluded from any or all worthwhile paid jobs and you cant even become a cleaner in a school !

I would suggest that anyone with a caution that should disappear (over time) contact liberty and explain the situation. If you did the same thing in any other country your record is wiped. In this country we discriminate against our own people. So someone from France, Poland, Germany with the same issues would not have a criminal record, but someone form UK will, no wonder UK people are finding it impossible to find jobs.

The Labour government has excluded (on purposes) its own citizerns from pursuing wortwhile careers in any profession or vocation which is highly paid. This was to ensure UK citizerns are kept as lowly paid employees compared to any other European national that comes to this country.

http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/index.php

Glad to see someone understands how it really is.... is nutz when you consider people running from europe to come here and having clean slates and a better career/job in the end. Would like to add perhaps it works both ways, brits can migrate to Europe where no dbs/crb checks exist since they still remember human being values.

thanks for the site will check it out!
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Also the original question while ages ago is strange, one would have to accept the caution to get it like above poster mentioned.

dbs/crb checks are now getting a little better since they moved to dbs checks, they are no longer giving out checks to "anyone" only where the job and company asking for a type of check, and if its appropriate then they are giving them to the company.

Most jobs do still ask for criminal convictions if if your time is spent on application forms, but in regards to running actual dbs/crb checks it would seem not many especially for normal jobs via office/retail/stores etc, but jobs which involve direct sole access to elderly/children they will need e-chanced checks.

Basic job checks do not reveal cautions, standard and en-chanced do show cautions and crimes, but as I said all depends on the job your going for. One can always decline filling in the dbs/crb check and decline the position etc.
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(Original post by Littlejonesy)
Hi Guys

I 'm worried about a CRB check as I think I have a caution.

I was wondering if anyone has experience of having a caution and a CRB check done, and if it affected the job they had applied for?

Many Thanks
I got a reprimand (juvenile caution) at 16 im now 22 and it shows on my CRB, despite popular belife cautions show on any version of the CRB check done, as I recently learned. Has it blocked my path to jobs.. yes&no.. like some jobs Id like to apply for but dont as I know you neef a clean CRB.

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At 14 I was given something from the police, I was read my rights and had my details taken but i've no idea what I was officially given. I've had an enhanced CRB and it was clean. Seems like it's pot luck tbh.

And no I don't really think I or anyone else who has a one off event of idiocy in their youth should spend the rest of their lives paying for it, it's pathetic.
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At 14 I was given something from the police, I was read my rights and had my details taken but i've no idea what I was officially given. I've had an enhanced CRB and it was clean. Seems like it's pot luck tbh.

And no I don't really think I or anyone else who has a one off event of idiocy in their youth should spend the rest of their lives paying for it, it's pathetic.
Yh suppose depends what it was for tbh...mine was for fighting

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Yh suppose depends what it was for tbh...mine was for fighting

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Which is bad as it shows dishonesy tbh.. id rather take my fighting caution because that can be explained easily with excuses... theft would be a hard one

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Which is bad as it shows dishonesy tbh.. id rather take my fighting caution because that can be explained easily with excuses... theft would be a hard one

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Well it's a good job it appears to have been wiped then isn't it.
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Well it's a good job it appears to have been wiped then isn't it.
It wouldn't have been "wiped" it probably was never logged down on the police computer base. You were lucky l, end of the day police can not persue with a caution and just tell you off, its up to the discretion of that officer. Wish the one thst nicked me just let me off instead of messing with my life.

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A Caution is classed as a conviction. The reason it is classed as a conviction, is because when one receives a caution, it is a admission of guilt. Cautions are spent, five years after one receives it, but they will show up on a CRB check for life.
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