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Dj Nastie
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Gota be sensible with the pills, i took WAY too many last week, never again will i repeat that.
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Why not just spend the night curled up by the the fireplace with a good book?
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(Original post by NeverMindThat)
Try drinking several litres of water without peeing, ecstasy or not, you WILL die.
Presuming you weren't on pills, wouldn't you just piss yourself...?

Incidently, you do seem to be rather winning this debate.
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^ of course he is, apricot; the silly little girl who thinks shes intelligent, didn't for a second believe 'nevermindthat' would be able to produce evidence to support his argument. On the contary she believed he would resort to petty name calling (much like herself). I find it ironic how someone can believe themselves to be so 'intellectual' and yet, for it to be so far from the truth, she didn't stand a chance in this debate. 'I dont argue with people who can't spell ecstasy correctly' LOL.

There have been cases of the brain swelling due to the consumption of too much water whilst NOT being under the influence of MDMA.

Also 'not dead yet', i do read, infact most weeknights ill be reading a book at night, come the weekend though i wana go out and rave.

LOL, im an 'adored and respected member' haha, yea right!
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I had one experience with clubbing. It was bad. Random guys were trying to pinch me or one of my friends on the butt and I came out smelling like smoke and feeling yucky. I prefer the library.
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ALmost time for bed!
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stay awake.... :coffee:

party party party

*zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Yes, I negged repped her for being too bone-headed to openly admit she was defeated... and guess what, she does it back. Isn't immaturity a wonderful thing.
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(Original post by yawn)
She died because her brain stem pierced her brain as a result of the effects of taking ectasy that was contaminated.
I am not sure if you are misunderstanding what he said, or he prefers to believe it, but what you are saying has NO BASIS in science WHATSOEVER. Find one peer-reviewed article that mentions extacy-induced brain stem damage and ill have a full debate with you, but you wont.

You are correct she died because her brain stem pierced her brain. The reason this occured is that, as I said, her organs swelled from the level of water in her blood. This includes her brain. The brain in encased in the skull, and so cannot expand without crushing itself. This is why she died.

"Contaminated" means what exactly? All her friends took the same batch and were fine. I'll say it again, according to all the published peer-reviewed articles in academic and medical journals on the subject I have read (and that is a lot!), death in cases like Leah Betts is attributed to water poisioning.

If you did indeed speak to her father as you claim, I feel sorry for him and fully understand why this is how he wants things portreyed.
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i drink (not always excessively), eat mountains of chocolate, drink coffee compulsively, take the odd pill from time to time, & not suffered anything worse than out-talking someone i fancied & looking like a right tw*t...not even a hangover
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(Original post by Profesh)
That said, considerations of 'legality' also pervade the regulatory dimension: it is not 'risk' per se, but rather the notion of it as opposed to reward, which predicates my decision not to imbibe any one of countless illicit substances; which is to say, the 'risk' component may be inherently adverse to calculation. Of course, cannabis consumption is usually sufficiently innocuous; the very notion of death as being consequent of smoking it, so ludicrous, that such an eventuality would besmirch the reputation of the vendor. However, the putative 'innate' lethality of 'hard' drugs is widely held to be so indubitable that their purveyors may reasonably anticipate benefit-of-doubt with regard to death ensuing from shoddy merchandise: nothing concrete can be attributed before the fact, if at all. Volenti non fit injuria, as they say in law.

I think its amazing (and also feel incredibly stupid) that I read this 6 times and still don't understand what you're talking about :p:

Good argument NMT, still wouldn't touch ecstacy I don't think, but it certainly makes you think about things!!
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^ profesh is a prentencious turd, he uses complex vocab to make him self look smart; when in actual fact, the content of his argument is complete and utter crap.
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(Original post by Dj Nastie)
^ profesh is a prentencious turd, he uses complex vocab to make him self look smart; when in actual fact, the content of his argument is complete and utter crap.
You're ever-so-slightly bigoted, aren't you?

Also: what is it with cretins and false dichotomies? Almost as though the two traits were concomitant.
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Yeah, I read his first post and immediately thought 'what a tw4t'. Wordsmiths don't impress me, especially when it's clear they only speak or write the way they do to make others feel inferior or, more commonly, to make themselves feel or appear superior. It's great that you've got the vocabulary that you have, but consider the context and ask yourself why you are using words which you know most people won't understand. I do like your signature though.

I've got a few points to make. One, I hate arguing with druggies because they are always so god damn informed about what they do. It makes it incredibly difficult to take the moral high ground when your preconceptions are consistently proved wrong. I've had to change my stance on quite a few things in the past few years and just for once I'd like public opinion to be right. I will say this though: I doubt very much whether I'll ever do drugs because I have what are apparently irrational fears over the effects. I saw the Leah Betts video in year 9 and decided that pills weren't for me. My cousin had a particularly bad trip on mushrooms so those are out the window, and anything you have to inject into yourself just seems stupid to me. I will say though, that where as the physical risks might be blown way out of proportion or based on misinformation by the media and information outlets, the risks of being caught in possession act as a deterrent for me. I can pretty easily spot a guy on pills in a club, and if I can, I'm pretty sure the police can. I suppose the counter argument to this is that proportionally, more people are prosecuted in connection with drinking offences, the punishments for possession of extacy and of being drunk and disorderly are, I imagine, quite far apart in harshness. Added to this, there are the after-effects, for example you'll have to explain to future employers how you were caught off your tits on pills etc. I've also got a cousin who was caught either snorting coke or taking pills in a clubs toilet when she was about 17, and this now means she has/d a criminal record and can never go to places like America now for the length of her life.

And criticise drinking all you like, but at least when your drinking you've got something to hold, something to sip on when you're thirsty in a club, and is it just me, or is half the fun of drinking forgetting what you've done and having to be reminded of it the next morning by friends?
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(Original post by Liam The Eagle)
Yeah, I read his first post and immediately thought 'what a tw4t'. Wordsmiths don't impress me, especially when it's clear they only speak or write the way they do to make others feel inferior or, more commonly, to make themselves feel or appear superior. It's great that you've got the vocabulary that you have, but consider the context and ask yourself why you are using words which you know most people won't understand. I do like your signature though.

I've got a few points to make. One, I hate arguing with druggies because they are always so god damn informed about what they do. It makes it incredibly difficult to take the moral high ground when your preconceptions are consistently proved wrong. I've had to change my stance on quite a few things in the past few years and just for once I'd like public opinion to be right. I will say this though: I doubt very much whether I'll ever do drugs because I have what are apparently irrational fears over the effects. I saw the Leah Betts video in year 9 and decided that pills weren't for me. My cousin had a particularly bad trip on mushrooms so those are out the window, and anything you have to inject into yourself just seems stupid to me. I will say though, that where as the physical risks might be blown way out of proportion or based on misinformation by the media and information outlets, the risks of being caught in possession act as a deterrent for me. I can pretty easily spot a guy on pills in a club, and if I can, I'm pretty sure the police can. I suppose the counter argument to this is that proportionally, more people are prosecuted in connection with drinking offences, the punishments for possession of extacy and of being drunk and disorderly are, I imagine, quite far apart in harshness. Added to this, there are the after-effects, for example you'll have to explain to future employers how you were caught off your tits on pills etc. I've also got a cousin who was caught either snorting coke or taking pills in a clubs toilet when she was about 17, and this now means she has/d a criminal record and can never go to places like America now for the length of her life.

And criticise drinking all you like, but at least when your drinking you've got something to hold, something to sip on when you're thirsty in a club, and is it just me, or is half the fun of drinking forgetting what you've done and having to be reminded of it the next morning by friends?
There are two types of user. One is like me, who tries things in extreme moderation under carefully controlled circumstances, with the main aim being to explore new experiences. The Other is the person for whom drugs/alcohol are a crutch, or an excuse to act like an arse. I treat this group with the contempt they deserve.

The police (in practice) do not arrest people for being "on" E, just for possession (and even then..depends how busy they are and how much it is).
I am a drinker primarily. Believe it or not I've only taken E a very small number of times spread out over a fairly long period. I love a good night out drinking, but it simply cant compare on the 'funness' factor.

Re: Mushrooms. Yeah, definately not for everyone and can be very scary, but despite his bad trip your cousin is no worse off now than before; He had an hour or two of fear and then recovered. In practice with the right people its rather easy to turn someone around who isnt having fun (usually as little as turning a light on and changing the music can do it.). Most of the people I know who have had "bad" times were either extremely emotionally fragile at that time, or were in a "hectic" or dark situation, like in a club or in a city at night. On a sunny day in a park with friends the chances of a bad time are minimal, and the worse than can happen is you spend a couple of hours feeling mildly frightened. If you are generally insecure however, not for you.
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