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(Original post by Einheri)
Better that than potentially being killed. If someone is attacking me I have to assume the worst intentions, that is the intention to kill me, on their part simply for my own safety. I don't think it's a victim's responsibility to protect their attacker.
It is, unfortunately. I'm not saying you're a terrible person for using these moves to protect yourself. I'm just saying that if you end up killing a guy or disabling him because he attacked you, you can get into serious trouble. It's worth bearing that in mind. Personally, I only feel really threatened if the person has a weapon or there's more than one of them. If it's just one on one I'm going to clinch up, get them down as quickly and (preferably) safely as possible and then choke them unconscious.
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What martial art do you do? I'm captain on the Shaolin Kung Fu society and I have no emphasise on achieving any kind of 'grade'. It's probably because I do Kung Fu and traditionally, there is no grade system. You shouldn't worry about belts and stuff. We become instructors by proving our abilities without them. I personally have never liked belt systems - I agree it allows the instructors to know where people are at, but it shouldn't stop you making the transition to another martial art!
I trained in traditional Tae Kwon-Do where there is a belt system, I've been waiting 7 years to get to the age where I can go for 4th Dan Black belt. I also had the opportunity to become an instructor but at the time I was still in college so I had to priorities everything.
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I trained in traditional Tae Kwon-Do where there is a belt system, I've been waiting 7 years to get to the age where I can go for 4th Dan Black belt. I also had the opportunity to become an instructor but at the time I was still in college so I had to priorities everything.
4th dan already!? How long have you been doing it for? :eek:

And, I'm sure you can get the belts at university pretty quickly for tae kwon do if you're that good?
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4th dan already!? How long have you been doing it for? :eek:

And, I'm sure you can get the belts at university pretty quickly for tae kwon do if you're that good?

I started when I was 6, got my third dan at 14, then have to wait till 21... Hugh gap! So i went on to train in MMA, that turned too technical for my liking so I now just help out with younger students.

It's not quickly, I've got to re-gain all my knowledge from when I first started and train hard to achieve what I want
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(Original post by Amy Atmore)
I started when I was 6, got my third dan at 14, then have to wait till 21... Hugh gap! So i went on to train in MMA, that turned too technical for my liking so I now just help out with younger students.

It's not quickly, I've got to re-gain all my knowledge from when I first started and train hard to achieve what I want
What uni are you going to?
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What uni are you going to?
Sheffield Hallam
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Sheffield Hallam
I know a guy there called Adam. He's skinny, ginger and goofy looking. If you see him, spin kick him in the **** for me.
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I'm sure there are plenty of ginger guys around..
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I'm sure there are plenty of ginger guys around..
Well then you might have to get every single one of them.
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I think I will leave you to deal with that haha
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(Original post by Dr. Bassman)
Personally, I only feel really threatened if the person has a weapon or there's more than one of them. If it's just one on one I'm going to clinch up, get them down as quickly and (preferably) safely as possible and then choke them unconscious.
You do realise if someone does have a weapon, the most stupid thing you can try and do is go and clinch up
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(Original post by Dr. Bassman)
Great, good for you. Just don't expect the law to care very much for that. Simple fact is that you shouldn't try to seriously harm your attacker unless you're seriously threatened because you could end up doing real damage and get in trouble.
(Original post by Einheri)
Better that than potentially being killed. If someone is attacking me I have to assume the worst intentions, that is the intention to kill me, on their part simply for my own safety. I don't think it's a victim's responsibility to protect their attacker.
Proabably the best thing that could happen is einheri trying out his flying origami skullcracker throw on some drunk who could have otherwise been subdued culminating in an attempted murder charge. He'll proabbly standup in court explaining the virtues of deadly arts of judo and wwe wrestling and then get an extra 3 years in the bighouse for using learnt training for purpose of intentional wounding.

Then he can truely prove his grapple wrestling theories amoungst the shankers and rudeboys in Parkhurst I dont see that going well...
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(Original post by Indo-Chinese Food)
You do realise if someone does have a weapon, the most stupid thing you can try and do is go and clinch up
Yeah man, that's why I said if it's one on one without weapons I'd clinch.
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(Original post by Dr. Bassman)
Yeah man, that's why I said if it's one on one without weapons I'd clinch.
my bad, i mis-read your post. I wont go into the lengthy discussion of wasting energy grappling over other options though
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Then he can truely prove his grapple wrestling theories amoungst the shankers and rudeboys in Parkhurst I dont see that going well...
BJJ > Prison Rape.
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I love the "clinching with a weapon is stupid" ideology, despite...you know...the vast majority of treatises from the Renaissance dealing with weapons in a series of languages (everything from Italian to Sanskrit) in order to disarm better. Grappling is a pretty useful tool. But what did they know, those people, who lived and died by these things. Let's do Wing Chun or some **** instead, am I right?

Friends don't let friends Chun. Go do BJJ or MT kids.
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I love the "clinching with a weapon is stupid" ideology, despite...you know...the vast majority of treatises from the Renaissance dealing with weapons in a series of languages (everything from Italian to Sanskrit) in order to disarm better. Grappling is a pretty useful tool. But what did they know, those people, who lived and died by these things. Let's do Wing Chun or some **** instead, am I right?

Friends don't let friends Chun. Go do BJJ or MT kids.
Indo-Chinese Food doesn't take evidence from the Middle Ages. I posted images from Medieval Fechtbücher and other armed fighting and grappling manuals and he dismissed them.
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Indo-Chinese Food doesn't take evidence from the Middle Ages. I posted images from Medieval Fechtbücher and other armed fighting and grappling manuals and he dismissed them.
I always assume he is a chinese takeaway menu.

I'm way too high for this **** right now.
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(Original post by Dr. Bassman)
I always assume he is a chinese takeaway menu.

I'm way too high for this **** right now.
Training 10th Planet, brah?
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Indo-Chinese Food doesn't take evidence from the Middle Ages. I posted images from Medieval Fechtbücher and other armed fighting and grappling manuals and he dismissed them.
Ah people in general don't seem to, but if you give them a book done by a Japanese guy twenty years ago its usually all fine and dandy eh?

In fairness I also think a lot of the stuff in the fechtbucher (diacritics!?! you either have a Mac or are a typing wizard) is a bit ****ty by modern standards (grappling much more developed, especially ground fighting; people no longer wielding gigantic knives with specifically circular handles just to make stabbing you more efficient etc) but I tend to think, except where work on body mechanics disagree, these people clearly knew what they were talking about.

I'm surprised and gratified to see somebody else on here who works with this kind of stuff as well as MMA etc. Too long have swords in the western world been associated with nerdy DnD ********s rather than awesome alive training and full contact sparring. :p:D
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