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Got a rough figure at hand?
PRHOs earn in a range between £24K and £26K, where registrars are on about £35k - £40K depending on on-call commitments etc.
I'm now desperately trying to write a 3000-word ethics essay on the marketing of human kidneys due in tomorrow
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If so, then be a nurse. You would be more helpful to patients.
You don't undrstand me.

What I mean is, there are other reasons for you wanting to be a doctor, right? Surely it can't just be money....
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I haven't saved any, I'm commenting on the poor financial lot of doctors!

There's big money in lots of fields. I was earning £75 per hour at one point. I didn't deserve it, mind.
There's plenty of opportunity to earn big money in medicine if you really want it.
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I'm now desperately trying to write a 3000-word ethics essay on the marketing of human kidneys due in tomorrow
Close the internet, immediatedly. And godspeed.
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You don't undrstand me.

What I mean is, there are other reasons for you wanting to be a doctor, right? Surely it can't just be money....
Money should be one of the last reasons for something wanting to go into medicine. There are far easier ways to earn a fortune.
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Money should be one of the last reasons for something wanting to go into medicine. There are far easier ways to earn a fortune.
That was my point, if money was your only reason or even the main reason, then going into medicine isn't for you.

Helping people or having a passion for medicine should be the main thing - even more so with medicine as 100% commitment is needed.

There are "easier" ways to earn a fortune, although earning good pay, which applies to most doctors, is obviously nice and fairly important.
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If so, then be a nurse. You would be more helpful to patients.

<--- Wants to be doc.
Doesn't care if starting salary is about 5k less than a bloke 2 years younger in a finance world or whatever.

It's helping folks, with the knowledge that I'm using science to do it, and the fact that it ain't that boring, tons of stuff!!!!

The money is just extra icing on the cake [if money was the only thing, stockbroker, management consultant etc. HERE I COME :P :P ].... though I do think Junior Docs need more cash....



I'm just scared when folks say the pay is shite, cos I think hmm, will I be able to survive on a PrHo / SHO salary, after having 1 or 2 years extra debt?
That is why I'm concerned... will I be able to pay off me debts, get a mortgage etc. etc.
Hopefully in the next 5 years junior docs may just get an extra £1k or so....
[Cos I'm also intending to do an intercalated degree hence a 6 year degree course....]

Chaps, dun go into medicine JUST for the money... i.e. not the SOLE factor...
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That was my point, if money was your only reason or even the main reason, then going into medicine isn't for you.

Helping people or having a passion for medicine should be the main thing - even more so with medicine as 100% commitment is needed.

There are "easier" ways to earn a fortune, although earning good pay, which applies to most doctors, is obviously nice and fairly important.
I agree.
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You don't undrstand me.

What I mean is, there are other reasons for you wanting to be a doctor, right? Surely it can't just be money....
No, but it adds to teh overall satisfaction.
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<--- Wants to be doc.
Doesn't care if starting salary is about 5k less than a bloke 2 years younger in a finance world or whatever.

It's helping folks, with the knowledge that I'm using science to do it, and the fact that it ain't that boring, tons of stuff!!!!

The money is just extra icing on the cake [if money was the only thing, stockbroker, management consultant etc. HERE I COME :P :P ].... though I do think Junior Docs need more cash....



I'm just scared when folks say the pay is shite, cos I think hmm, will I be able to survive on a PrHo / SHO salary, after having 1 or 2 years extra debt?
That is why I'm concerned... will I be able to pay off me debts, get a mortgage etc. etc.
Hopefully in the next 5 years junior docs may just get an extra £1k or so....
[Cos I'm also intending to do an intercalated degree hence a 6 year degree course....]

Chaps, dun go into medicine JUST for the money... i.e. not the SOLE factor...
Most house officers will tell you that they can easily pay off their debts within the first two years as they're in the hospital so much that they don't have time to spend the £50K+ they've accumulated over the first two years (tax deducted).
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No, but it adds to teh overall satisfaction.
Ok, fair enough then, but primarily you shouldn't really be thinking about money at this stage when wanting to do a medicine degree 2776.
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Ok, fair enough then, but primarily you shouldn't really be thinking about money at this stage when wanting to do a medicine degree 2776.
How do you know what I am thinking bono? Are you sure that I am thinking about money? I can make good money from becoming an actuary. The best paid job in the world. I have the current framework to become one.

I choose to become a doctor, due to various reasons.

Money comes near to the bottom of the list.
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How do you know what I am thinking bono? Are you sure that I am thinking about money? I can make good money from becoming an actuary. The best paid job in the world. I have the current framework to become one.

I choose to become a doctor, due to various reasons.

Money comes near to the bottom of the list.
I wanted to be an actuary in year 10, how sad is that? Then it changed to a lawyer for year 11!
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I wanted to be an actuary in year 10, how sad is that? Then it changed to a lawyer for year 11!
An actuary is the most boring job ever, but the best paid. A lawyer is just too unstable for a job, you only earn real money when you get a good degree, and in London. Or doing private job.

Get on with that kidney work. Stop procrastinating.
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An actuary is the most boring job ever, but the best paid. A lawyer is just too unstable for a job, you only earn real money when you get a good degree, and in London. Or doing private job.

Get on with that kidney work. Stop procrastinating.

I must be getting tired. I've even got to the stage where I'm referencing The Guardian!!
"This may be countered in an argument by saying that it is also an option for economic improvement, but a society that closes off economic opportunity to such an extent that people would resort to selling body parts is already one rife with social inequalities. (‘Doctors debate paid organ donors’ – The Guardian)."
I hate ethics and all that it stands for
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Most house officers will tell you that they can easily pay off their debts within the first two years as they're in the hospital so much that they don't have time to spend the £50K+ they've accumulated over the first two years (tax deducted).
Errr, nah, doctor's hours are been reduced, soon it'll just be a 8-6pm job in 2009!!!
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PRHOs earn in a range between £24K and £26K, where registrars are on about £35k - £40K depending on on-call commitments etc.
I'm now desperately trying to write a 3000-word ethics essay on the marketing of human kidneys due in tomorrow
hey that was a BMAT question...although in BMAT you just had one page to fill.....
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Errr, nah, doctor's hours are been reduced, soon it'll just be a 8-6pm job in 2009!!!
Wait a mo, the consultant that I was talking to mentioned something about an EU directive, about 16 hours on and 16 hours off.
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I must be getting tired. I've even got to the stage where I'm referencing The Guardian!!
"This may be countered in an argument by saying that it is also an option for economic improvement, but a society that closes off economic opportunity to such an extent that people would resort to selling body parts is already one rife with social inequalities. (‘Doctors debate paid organ donors’ – The Guardian)."
I hate ethics and all that it stands for
Doctors selling organs on the sly? Without any permissions, and doing it without the hospital knowing? Greed, if you ask me.
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hey that was a BMAT question...although in BMAT you just had one page to fill.....
If I could shove autonomy up certain aspects of my tutor's anatomy, I would.
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