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Oxbridge discrimination
I recently posted a thread to find out whether anyone had got an offer for economics from both Oxbridge and Warwick. I have not found a single person yet. Having also scanned other Economics at Warwick related threads, I think there is considerable evidence to suggest they are discriminating against people with Oxbridge offers. This really isn't fair and anyway I thought they weren't allowed to know what offers you've got. I know people say Unis can guess whether you got into Oxbridge, but I'm sure they can't be that accurate. Do you think Warwick should be allowed to discriminate against people with Oxbridge offers?
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Last year I had offers from both Oxford and Warwick for Economics and managent and economics and maths respectively. I wouldn't make and string conclusions from this site though, it dosn't really represent the true student population.
Universities arn't allowed to see what other institutions you've applied for though may be able to make some educated guesses from your grades. I have no reson to believe that Warwick discrimate against people applying to Oxbridge especially as they don't interview anything like the number of candiates Oxbridge do and so won't know who is likely to get into Oxbridge anyway.
Universities arn't allowed to see what other institutions you've applied for though may be able to make some educated guesses from your grades. I have no reson to believe that Warwick discrimate against people applying to Oxbridge especially as they don't interview anything like the number of candiates Oxbridge do and so won't know who is likely to get into Oxbridge anyway.
sportsman
I recently posted a thread to find out whether anyone had got an offer for economics from both Oxbridge and Warwick. I have not found a single person yet. Having also scanned other Economics at Warwick related threads, I think there is considerable evidence to suggest they are discriminating against people with Oxbridge offers. This really isn't fair and anyway I thought they weren't allowed to know what offers you've got. I know people say Unis can guess whether you got into Oxbridge, but I'm sure they can't be that accurate. Do you think Warwick should be allowed to discriminate against people with Oxbridge offers?
I doubt it, I've never heard of Warwick discriminating, they don't even interview that much.
bono
I doubt it, I've never heard of Warwick discriminating, they don't even interview that much.
Don't tell lies, nothin like a bit of total ignorance. Experience it then pass judgement. I applied to cambridge. i have been rejected by...Warwick, Durham, Cambridge, Bristol and am guessing Nottingham will follow suit. I have yet to have a B in any level of exams with A's and A*'s thorouhout school. Im head girl, with work experience i organised myself, charity work and enough general shit to kill any snotty-nosed public school boy's application.
Theres descrimination, there has be and always will be. Get over it, but it'll come out in the press sooner or later, with red faces in the admissions department and I'll b the one saying i told u so.
For all u admissions tutors congrations on a job done sh*te.
babybio
Don't tell lies, nothin like a bit of total ignorance. Experience it then pass judgement. I applied to cambridge. i have been rejected by...Warwick, Durham, Cambridge, Bristol and am guessing Nottingham will follow suit. I have yet to have a B in any level of exams with A's and A*'s thorouhout school. Im head girl, with work experience i organised myself, charity work and enough general shit to kill any snotty-nosed public school boy's application.
Theres descrimination, there has be and always will be. Get over it, but it'll come out in the press sooner or later, with red faces in the admissions department and I'll b the one saying i told u so.
For all u admissions tutors congrations on a job done sh*te.
Theres descrimination, there has be and always will be. Get over it, but it'll come out in the press sooner or later, with red faces in the admissions department and I'll b the one saying i told u so.
For all u admissions tutors congrations on a job done sh*te.
So is that all the unis you applied to? That's terrible!
babybio
Don't tell lies, nothin like a bit of total ignorance. Experience it then pass judgement. I applied to cambridge. i have been rejected by...Warwick, Durham, Cambridge, Bristol and am guessing Nottingham will follow suit. I have yet to have a B in any level of exams with A's and A*'s thorouhout school. Im head girl, with work experience i organised myself, charity work and enough general shit to kill any snotty-nosed public school boy's application.
Theres descrimination, there has be and always will be. Get over it, but it'll come out in the press sooner or later, with red faces in the admissions department and I'll b the one saying i told u so.
For all u admissions tutors congrations on a job done sh*te.
Theres descrimination, there has be and always will be. Get over it, but it'll come out in the press sooner or later, with red faces in the admissions department and I'll b the one saying i told u so.
For all u admissions tutors congrations on a job done sh*te.
what a-level grades and gcse grades did u get?
babybio
Predicted 3 A's at A-Level, feeling fine bout them.
GCSE 5A*s 5 A's
GCSE 5A*s 5 A's
That's harsh but they have so much competition they need to pick up little things. I have similar grades to you (6a* 4a and AAA predicted) but I have been rejected from UCL. Depends what course it is i suppose.
babybio
Predicted 3 A's at A-Level, feeling fine bout them.
GCSE 5A*s 5 A's
GCSE 5A*s 5 A's
Yeah i know it's a shocking mess the admissions process is in, but you are not in the great situation to get into uni you think you are in - I know someone with 10A* at GCSE, predicted AAAA at A2, works in an old people's home and is editor of her school's paper, has applied for English Lit and has heard from 4 unis, which have all rejected her.
serendipity
Yeah i know it's a shocking mess the admissions process is in, but you are not in the great situation to get into uni you think you are in - I know someone with 10A* at GCSE, predicted AAAA at A2, works in an old people's home and is editor of her school's paper, has applied for English Lit and has heard from 4 unis, which have all rejected her.
God, I can't believe all this! Do u think maybe their personal statements let them down (all though, with grades like that you should be able to leave the personal statement blank and still be accepted!)
suz19
God, I can't believe all this! Do u think maybe their personal statements let them down (all though, with grades like that you should be able to leave the personal statement blank and still be accepted!)
No i don't think so, she's soooo clever, she's the type of person everybody loves. I reckon unis are trying to second guess applicants who have applied to oxbridge. There was a really interesting and shocking article from Bristol's vice chancellor about admissions to Bristol, saying something along the lines of, "we like candidates to pick something out about our uni in their PS, and we don't take candidates who clearly favour another uni". It's a load of crap really, they're asking students to achieve the impossible, and I for one am truly jaded.
serendipity
No i don't think so, she's soooo clever, she's the type of person everybody loves. I reckon unis are trying to second guess applicants who have applied to oxbridge. There was a really interesting and shocking article from Bristol's vice chancellor about admissions to Bristol, saying something along the lines of, "we like candidates to pick something out about our uni in their PS, and we don't take candidates who clearly favour another uni". It's a load of crap really, they're asking students to achieve the impossible, and I for one am truly jaded.
That's ridiculous- if you specify one particular uni in your PS you're effectively putting all your eggs in one basket- why would any of the other unis offer you a place?
serendipity
No i don't think so, she's soooo clever, she's the type of person everybody loves. I reckon unis are trying to second guess applicants who have applied to oxbridge.
That takes the piss. I applied for law so to some extent its not half as bad as ur friends dilemma. Well im sure she'll end up with an amazin job, return and rip the piss out of the fools in admissions.
Doesn't make much sense, its the ultimate cut your nose to spite ur face action. It'll back fire on them eventually when they're left with a load off applicants who have no-where near the level of academic potential. She can take that away with her, and laugh herself silly when theres an investigation into this sh*te sytstem, plenty of lay-offs i should hope!
serendipity
Yeah i know it's a shocking mess the admissions process is in, but you are not in the great situation to get into uni you think you are in - I know someone with 10A* at GCSE, predicted AAAA at A2, works in an old people's home and is editor of her school's paper, has applied for English Lit and has heard from 4 unis, which have all rejected her.
That's horrible!
Where did she apply to?I applied for English as well (I got 9 A*s at GCSE and am predicted AAA at A level) and I've only had three replies back so far, one of which was a rejection. The future doesn't look very bright, does it?
babybio
Don't tell lies, nothin like a bit of total ignorance. Experience it then pass judgement. I applied to cambridge. i have been rejected by...Warwick, Durham, Cambridge, Bristol and am guessing Nottingham will follow suit. I have yet to have a B in any level of exams with A's and A*'s thorouhout school. Im head girl, with work experience i organised myself, charity work and enough general shit to kill any snotty-nosed public school boy's application.
Theres descrimination, there has be and always will be. Get over it, but it'll come out in the press sooner or later, with red faces in the admissions department and I'll b the one saying i told u so.
For all u admissions tutors congrations on a job done sh*te.
Theres descrimination, there has be and always will be. Get over it, but it'll come out in the press sooner or later, with red faces in the admissions department and I'll b the one saying i told u so.
For all u admissions tutors congrations on a job done sh*te.
I know it must suck and you do seem like a high achieveing person, but tbh I don't think you can blame discrimination(you're supposed to be intelligent! at least spell it right). It's always easier to blame anything else but ourselves for any type of failure, and maybe you should be looking at your personal statement and interview performance as to reasons why you didn't make it in? As it is there is quite abit of discrim against priv schools now anyway as unis want to fill up quotas to get funding. I've heard of state cool kids who get offered lower grades often just to get quotas filled up.
Anyways I am sick of the press going on and on about how people like Laura Spence the supposedly perfect paper applicant didn't get into oxbridge. Apparently she was a wet trout !
babybio
Don't tell lies, nothin like a bit of total ignorance. Experience it then pass judgement. I applied to cambridge. i have been rejected by...Warwick, Durham, Cambridge, Bristol and am guessing Nottingham will follow suit. I have yet to have a B in any level of exams with A's and A*'s thorouhout school. Im head girl, with work experience i organised myself, charity work and enough general shit to kill any snotty-nosed public school boy's application.
Theres descrimination, there has be and always will be. Get over it, but it'll come out in the press sooner or later, with red faces in the admissions department and I'll b the one saying i told u so.
For all u admissions tutors congrations on a job done sh*te.
Theres descrimination, there has be and always will be. Get over it, but it'll come out in the press sooner or later, with red faces in the admissions department and I'll b the one saying i told u so.
For all u admissions tutors congrations on a job done sh*te.
I'm in almost exactly the same position as you academically. I also applied for Law and and applied to Oxford. Funnily enough I have been rejected from Warwick, Bristol and Oxford. I seem to have lost faith in the system. Having been a high flyer all through school I know I am more than well qualified for a place at these unis.
I wouldnt have believed this could happen before (truly believing hard work would get me somewhere!) but I guess we have both had a tough lesson.
I'm still waiting on 3 but otherwise I will take a year out and reapply next year having done yet more work exp and having my 3 As.
Urgh, it sounds like there is a fair bit of discrimination - fair enough if there's competition for a course (I got rejected by Nottingham for Zoology even though I applied for deferred entry - bit sus though, there can't be *that* many deferrals that an entire course gets filled up, especially as they offered me a place on another course), but if they're anti-Oxbridge sifting based on how early the applications have been submitted then it really is unfair. *feeling a bit guilty now as she has noway near as good grades yet got offers from Sheffield and Edinburgh* Meh, it's not fair that people who have worked hard to get A grades don't get to realise their full potential because of such bureaucratic pettiness! Everyone should get an equal chance.
What harm could come of somewhere like Bristol or Warwick making an offer to an Oxbridge applicant, especially as they always over-estimate the number of people who will turn their offers down? It's not like they'd be taking up places that could be offered to someone else, as a successful Oxbridger is highly likely to turn down their other offers in favour anyhow.
The best solution to that IMO is to remove Oxbridge from the UCAS form entirely and have a separate form for it - separate personal statement, separate submissions dates etc. Just that the Oxbridge applicants would be sent a UCAS form with only 4/5 spaces for Uni choices (depending on whether they applied to both or not) rather than the usual 6. Then that way the unis have no way of picking up from the personal statement or the submission date whether the candidate has applied to Oxbridge or not. Well, that's my tuppence worth anyway
What harm could come of somewhere like Bristol or Warwick making an offer to an Oxbridge applicant, especially as they always over-estimate the number of people who will turn their offers down? It's not like they'd be taking up places that could be offered to someone else, as a successful Oxbridger is highly likely to turn down their other offers in favour anyhow.
The best solution to that IMO is to remove Oxbridge from the UCAS form entirely and have a separate form for it - separate personal statement, separate submissions dates etc. Just that the Oxbridge applicants would be sent a UCAS form with only 4/5 spaces for Uni choices (depending on whether they applied to both or not) rather than the usual 6. Then that way the unis have no way of picking up from the personal statement or the submission date whether the candidate has applied to Oxbridge or not. Well, that's my tuppence worth anyway
madmazda86
The best solution to that IMO is to remove Oxbridge from the UCAS form entirely and have a separate form for it - separate personal statement, separate submissions dates etc. Just that the Oxbridge applicants would be sent a UCAS form with only 4/5 spaces for Uni choices (depending on whether they applied to both or not) rather than the usual 6. Then that way the unis have no way of picking up from the personal statement or the submission date whether the candidate has applied to Oxbridge or not. Well, that's my tuppence worth anyway
thats a pretty good idea...but u can only apply to one of ox or cam so the form would always have 5 spaces. Also, surely this wouldn't be too difficult for oxbridge anyway as definitely when I applied they sent me two more double sided A3 forms to fill in with predictable qu's on them... eg why Cam, why this college, why this course, why ru so good?! so yeh, this def makes sense
I think on the one hand for the reasons mentioned, having a totally seperate app for them would be a good idea. However, I also think that unfortunatley this will serve to increase even more the gulf in reputation between oxbridge and other unis which is silly. I personally think alot should be done to try and keep the oxbridge process as similar to other uni entry procedures as pos, otherwise we are just going to get an increase in the obsession of the name. Right now, how ever oxbridge perform in terms of research and course quality, they will always be thought of as different due to the interview process. Infact, we should probably have a system similar to america therefore you can apply directly to each uni, fufill their specific requirements and explain why you like their course/uni in particular. I know it would be a bit more confusing than now, but would you also be able to apply for more than 6 then? If so, that is certainly another bonus, and having separate apps although time consuming can least avoid discrimination against you for applying somewhere.
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