The Student Room Group
Reply 1
shauniemac
If you were to do an external degree from UoL would you have a different certificate or title compared to someone who attended the University, the "traditional" way?

Good question, I've been wanting to know too.

I know of several friends doing an external degree here, and they laugh at whoever actually flies down physically to the UoL to study (of course they don't know what they're missing.. :wink:).
shauniemac
If you were to do an external degree from UoL would you have a different certificate or title compared to someone who attended the University, the "traditional" way?


No. The external degree is considered vastly inferior to the actual degree. That applies to all unis with external programmes - from Harvard to London.
Reply 3
President_Ben
No. The external degree is considered vastly inferior to the actual degree. That applies to all unis with external programmes - from Harvard to London.

Lol, meh...
Reply 4
President_Ben
No. The external degree is considered vastly inferior to the actual degree. That applies to all unis with external programmes - from Harvard to London.

http://externalstudy.lse.ac.uk/FAQs/detail.asp?ID=16

What will my certificate say?

The certificate you will receive when you complete your degree is the same as the one sent to Internal students of the University of London. The wording indicates that the student studied as an External student in association with a named college of the University (e.g. LSE), and is signed by both the Vice Chancellor of the University of London and the Director of LSE. It also states that all students are examined to the same standard irrespective of mode of study.


Your question is:
Will my degree be recognised?

The answer is:
The degrees and Diploma offered by LSE through the External Programme are recognised throughout the world. LSE is responsible for all academic aspects of the qualifications offered and applies the same rigorous standards to its External Programme qualifications as it does internally. All examinations taken by External students are marked to the same standards as those taken by internal students at LSE. Many universities (including LSE) will accept External students into the second year of their degree programmes.


I'd love to believe you, but that's not what they say.
Reply 5
I am quite interested in doing an Economics or Management degree via the external program.

What are you looking to do?
Knogle

I'd love to believe you, but that's not what they say.


External degrees aren't included in the league tables.
External students typically do worse than internal ones.
External degrees are clearly designated as different from internal ones.
External degrees, when I did pre-employment screens in risk management for financial services, if attempted to being passed off as 'a normal one' would get flagged as a major discrepancy.
Reply 7
President_Ben
External degrees aren't included in the league tables.

Where is that written explicitly? Perhaps it's because league tables only take into account internal students to be able to more fairly compute statistics since not all unis have external programmes.

External students typically do worse than internal ones.


I'm comparing someone with a 2:1 from the external programme, and 2:1 from the internal alternative. How external students do generally is a moot point.

External degrees are clearly designated as different from internal ones.
That doesn't say anything about the quality of a degree really, not technically at least.

External degrees, when I did pre-employment screens in risk management for financial services, if attempted to being passed off as 'a normal one' would get flagged as a major discrepancy.


Fair enough, although I'd love to see some statistics. : )
Reply 8
External students normally have a lot more self-discipline than internal students.
And this fact is regarded highly by future employers and universities.
yourjoyismylow
External students normally have a lot more self-discipline than internal students.
And this fact is regarded highly by future employers and universities.


Crock of?

University - the fact you are there with other students, the academics, the facilities - is not something that you can replicate with external programmes.

The benefits of being in London for it, the proximity to major employers, access to events on campus or at HQs - are not conferred to those on external programmes.

You are greatly limited in terms of the extra-curricular aspects of university - sport, music, drama etc.
Reply 10
Knogle
http://externalstudy.lse.ac.uk/FAQs/detail.asp?ID=16

I'd love to believe you, but that's not what they say.


I don't think you are qualified to say, if you are currently studying the degree. I'm doing the external degree in Economics with UOL (through the LSE) and it is unbelievably tough, I showed the first year material to a guy who was studying second year Economics at the LSE and he said he couldn't do some of the material. I really struggled and had to spend a lot of time going through the material to get to grips. I'm now in my second year and enjoying it, albeit it still is very tough.
The funky thing is... I find going back to do first year stuff here a bit of a head scratch because our models change so much from the first year to the second year.

And it's also tough (in both years).
President_Ben
No. The external degree is considered vastly inferior to the actual degree. That applies to all unis with external programmes - from Harvard to London.


Except of course the Open University.
ChemistBoy
Except of course the Open University.


OU don't call it an external programme as it is their only programme :wink:
do you think that the educational institutions which have been granted rights to conduct the external degree programme in countries outside the UK,...have the required amount of infrastructure to support students...likewise the student library or the intranet....??