London Met mulls alcohol ban

No, I get negged by the muslims on TSR anytime I comment on the negative influence their presence is having in some places.

I didnt say it was muslims asking for this, its still a dictatorship that is uncalled for just to avoid putting off/upsetting muslims.

I'm aware of that but to be honest why should the muslim minority have the say on this matter? We arn't in Saudi Arabia for godsake this is a secular country. No one forces them to drink or even be around drinkers.

Yet more intolerance.

I will also add that this is another story that isn't going to do Islam or Muslims any favours with many of the non-muslim population. If I was a student at that Uni I'd feel heavily stigmatized against.

No, I get negged by the muslims on TSR anytime I comment on the negative influence their presence is having in some places.

I didnt say it was muslims asking for this, its still a dictatorship that is uncalled for just to avoid putting off/upsetting muslims.

I'm aware of that but to be honest why should the muslim minority have the say on this matter?

We arn't in Saudi Arabia for godsake this is a secular country. No one forces them to drink or even be around drinkers.

why should the muslim minority have the say on this matter?

Yet more intolerance.

Another one of your silly statements again...............READ THE ARTICLE, no Muslim asked for this or even brought it up, it was the vice chancellors idea so you should stop stigmatising Muslims because any proper person would know it's not their idea.

Again, thats not what I said.

So if this guy is trying to use religion as an excuse to ban the sale of alcohol, and trying to get more Muslims to come to the university, it's the fault of the Muslims?

That's unlikely to be the case. If you read the article, he personally does not like it, and it's more likely that they wish to get more Muslims coming to the university, if they see alcohol isn't going to be served or more importantly young Muslim's parents because parents don't tend to know much about the university process these days. To a lot of parents, a university is a university and if they think "my son/daughter is not going to be able to touch alcohol on campus, I'll send them there" then London Met will get more students




Just saying it's not the Muslim minority having their say in the matter; it's one guy. Also, what's wrong with the Muslim minority having their say. We do live in a democracy after all



Yes this is a secular country, and it's you who seems to want to turn this democratic, secular country in a not so democratic country by denying people a voice (despite them not even voicing any thing any way)

This is what you said



Even if the Muslim minority did voice their opinion and agreed with the professor, that is still their right in a democratic society. By asking why minorities have a say, you are automatically at odds with what democracy stands for


Irony, much



Exactly this. This is my point as well. The minority here is not 20% of Muslims vs 80% of non Muslims but one guy vs the entire uni

That's something they have to take up with whoever made the decision i.e. London Met, not fellow Muslim students.

I didnt say they shouldnt be allowed to voice their opinion,

why should the muslim minority have the say on this matter?

just that this should not in anyway be allowed to dictate to the 80% majority.

What I mean is this is one of those things that gets peoples backs up who are sick of the constant asking for Islamic dictatorship.

Yes you did. Here is what you said





But it's not the Muslim minority dictating to the 80% majority either.It's one guy dictating to the 99.9999% majority. Also, if the 20% minority did petition and petition and petition, and got a majority vote saying that they agree, then that would not be dictating any thing. That would be democratic



So now this professor guy wants an Islamic dictatorship as well? I told you before about libel. It can get you in serious **** with the law

Putting words in my mouth a bit there, arnt you? Didnt even mention the guy once, I said people in general are fed up with the rules changing to suit muslims.

I said why should they have THE say on the matter, as in the final say, it doesnt even affect them if others drink. I didnt say why should they have their say on the matter.

One-fifth of the University's students are Muslim, and of those the majority are women. It is an issue of "cultural sensitivity" to provide drink-free areas, Prof Gillies told a conference, adding he was "not a great fan of alchol on campus".
"It's a negative experience - in fact an immoral experience - for a high percentage of our students," he said.

What has the fact that the majority of women got to do with it?
Cultural sensitivity?

Many of its female Muslim students "can only really go to university within four miles of home and have to be delivered and picked up by a close male relative", he said.


What has this got to do with anything?


It's obvious Prof Gillies wants alcohol off the campus and is using Muslim students as an excuse.

Discrimination of the indigenous non muslim population which is majority white,

plus its well known whites are hated and discriminated against in this day and age.

But the Muslim students at London Met didn't ask for the university to ban alcohol, so why are you hating on them?

No, not openly, no.

Thought in Islam many women are free to do what they like? This guy is confirming what we all know that muslim women have their lives run by men.

You get negs for a reason, cos you never read the thread properly or the evidence.

This has nothing to do with Muslims playing any part in the universities vice chancellors reasons behind it................he just wants to attract more students to bring income into the uni and increase application........the article doesn't talk about Muslims at the uni at all asking for it to be banned.

How do you know that Professor Giles isn't White himself?

Why do you keep saying this? As can be seen above, he also wants an Islamic dictatorship, which is what my original point said.

You're one to talk. You(and I mean you personally - not the whole White population) don't really do yourself any favours when

Because anything like this is always caused by Islam, or religion.

I say the same about bigoted Christianity.

I have no time for those of backward faith. They should be secular and move with the times, their God won't punish them for it, if he does hes a bit of a Nazi.

Because anything like this is always caused by Islam, or religion.