What Are Computer Engineers?

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    Wiki: Computer engineers are engineers who have acquired knowledge in both electrical engineering and computer science.

    I cannot imagine someone who can do both things in the same day. Moreover, I searched for Apple and Google jobs and there are 0 search results for "Computer Engineer".

    So could someone tell me what are computer engineers and how they complete both software and hardware in a working day?

    Thanks and I appreciate that!

    The wikipedia definition is what you should be studying in a Computer engineering degree.

    In reality, you are right. You either work with software development/design., or systems administration (OS/Applications...little bit of hardware)...or even Sales.

    You can work with VLSI (designing chips, and hardware) but this is limited to vendors like IBM, Toshiba, EMC,..etc.

    (Original post by JamesSmith100)
    I cannot imagine someone who can do both things in the same day. So could someone tell me what are computer engineers and how they complete both software and hardware in a working day?
    It's mainly the lower-level software. Things like compilers and drivers require a really good understanding of the underlying hardware, even if they're still written in software. Same goes for things like embedded systems, where you're designing code for a specific hardware platform.

    There are definitely jobs in both companies which require both skill sets, but you'd probably fall under being a software engineer.

    Remember that divisions between subjects are only convenient artifice.

    The job I currently do combines both, although more electrical we do write and use code to fault find.

    I'll give an example, the other day a large incineration plant would not start. The plant is controlled by both electrical panels containing relays and a programmable controller (PLC). We can 'watch' the code live while the plant begins starting to help pin point where the fault is, and where it is coming from. We did this and narrowed it down to a fault on one of the PLC input cards. We then watched the bank of relays connected to the input card and the plant failed every time a particular relay pulled in. Tested the relay, which was reading low resistance, replaced it and all was good.

    The code we use isn't computer science level, most electricians comfortable with using a computer could pick it up after a couple of training courses and a few months in the field, but it is getting more complex.

    However some PLC code is written in structured text these days, which is closer to the sort of code you may study on a CS degree. In the future it could be likely the company gives the electrical and electronic work to traditional electricians, and the more complex PLC work to a dedicated department, most likely with a CS background, but the cost savings to a company if someone could do both is huge as most times, both skills would be required at the same time.

    Although saying that, most companies will try and keep all their PLC code written in ladder (this type of code looks more like an electrical drawing of relays) to avoid having to take on more qualified and therefore more expensive employees to complete the same tasks.
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