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Did I lose my virginity?

well I have quite a confusing problem baaasically my exboyfriend who I went out with for 4 months and I split up a few months ago but we've stayed close friends. One night we were out at the pub with friends and we got really drunk and ended up going back to his house, this isnt unusual but nothing ever happened before, anyway we were talking, ended up pulling and he said he'd wished we'd slept together when we went out. I said me too as i'm 17, really liked him and there's always been a spark between us so we went for it except he wouldnt use a condom, so I said no way was I having unprotected sex but he entered me twice before I could get him off me. I was quite drunk so just went and slept on the sofa but ive no idea if this means ive lost my virginity euuughhh its just confusing plus I know he's slept with a few other girls so slightly worried about STDs as I assumed before he was a safe sex kind of guy but evidently not x x x

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Reply 1
if he got inside you then you're not.
If he broke your hymen yes, if not no.
Are you talking physically, metaphorically, or religiously here? "Virginity" is a bit vague.

Physically: You'd probably know if you did, but it's possible that your hymen was already broken.

Religiously: Pretty much definately. If it went in, you're no longer "pure".

Metaphorically: Not sure. Some would say yes, some would suggest that it doesn't really count as "sex".
Reply 4
this is the whole 'what is virginity' debate again. why does it matter? if its for religious reasons/mental purity then YES. if its just for 'i want my first time to be special, was it with him?' then thats entirely up to you.

i dont think the hymen is an indicator of virginity. most girls have very little left at thi age, and also raped women - are they virgin or not?
Dream Theater
If he broke your hymen yes, if not no.


That's only if you take it literally. If that were the case, then there's no such thing as a male virgin (as males have no physical virginity).
shinytoy
raped women - are they virgin or not?


No.
Reply 7
Virginity is largely of socially constructed significance anyway
Reply 8
shinytoy
i dont think the hymen is an indicator of virginity. most girls have very little left at thi age

While this is true, and the hymen isn't the definition of virginity,

shinytoy
and also raped women - are they virgin or not?

Clearly not. Having sex implies nothing about consent.
Reply 9
I suppose its up to you really, would you call it sex? If not then I'd say you were still a virgin. He seems like a nice guy though
Rozaroo
I suppose its up to you really, would you call it sex? If not then I'd say you were still a virgin. He seems like a nice guy though


I wouldn't have called it sex, so I'd say in the "metaphorical" sense (if it's only for her own personal significance, her 'first time') she still is a virgin. If she's asking for religious reasons though, then no, in the eyes of most (if not all) churches she'd be considered a non-virgin.
Reply 11
firebird, you are contradicting toy soldier.
Reply 12
anonymous
One night we were out at the pub with friends and we got really drunk and ended up going back to his house, this isnt unusual but nothing ever happened before, anyway we were talking, ended up pulling and he said he'd wished we'd slept together when we went out. I said me too as i'm 17, really liked him and there's always been a spark between us so we went for it except he wouldnt use a condom, so I said no way was I having unprotected sex but he entered me twice before I could get him off me.


I suppose it was rape or attempted rape, so I would say yes you are still a virgin, I don't think you can take it without consent.
Drogue
While this is true, and the hymen isn't the definition of virginity,

Clearly not. Having sex implies nothing about consent.

:dito:
Oh dear...

The advice in this thread is appalling. Let me just clear a few things up.

Penis inside vagina = sex = not a virgin.
The hymen means nothing, as you can break it through horseriding, cycling, gymnastics or using tampons, and none of those things equal sex, although I shouldn't be surprised to find some people on this thread think otherwise.

If he entered you, you're not a virgin any more, even if he didn't go all the way in. Furthermore, if you didn't consent, then he raped you, and you have every right to report him. He shouldn't be allowed to just go around forcing himself on girls who haven't truly consented. You should also get yourself tested for STDs.

I suggest you go to a family planning clinic where you can get tested and also talk to someone about what happened.
I think you lost your virginity. The hymen issue isn't valid any longer, mine was broken way before I had sex because of tampons etc etc. You had a penis inside your vagina which is the technical definition of sexual intercourse, I'm pretty sure.
So I would say that you're no longer a virgin. Seriously though, I don't think that labels matter. If you want to think that you didn't have sex as such, then think it.

Edit: and of course if a virgin is raped then they're no longer a virgin. How could anybody think that it doesn't count if its not consensual? That's awful.
Anonymous
well I have quite a confusing problem baaasically my exboyfriend who I went out with for 4 months and I split up a few months ago but we've stayed close friends. One night we were out at the pub with friends and we got really drunk and ended up going back to his house, this isnt unusual but nothing ever happened before, anyway we were talking, ended up pulling and he said he'd wished we'd slept together when we went out. I said me too as i'm 17, really liked him and there's always been a spark between us so we went for it except he wouldnt use a condom, so I said no way was I having unprotected sex but he entered me twice before I could get him off me. I was quite drunk so just went and slept on the sofa but ive no idea if this means ive lost my virginity euuughhh its just confusing plus I know he's slept with a few other girls so slightly worried about STDs as I assumed before he was a safe sex kind of guy but evidently not x x x

1. No you are technically not a virgin

That said,

2. If you didn't consent to what happened, then that is classed as rape surely?
If his penis entered your vagina, you aren't a virgin.
Reply 18
I think that virginity is a concept created by society, not really a physical thing. However, people do tend to think that once the hymen is broken, viriginity is lost.
Reply 19
ok so technically ur not a virgin anymore...but i wouldnt say u've had sex yet. sex is a much bigger thing than that so i wouldnt say u've had it yet.